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Assad Loyalists Storm US Embassy
Arutz Sheva ^ | 11/7/11 | Gavriel Queenan

Posted on 07/11/2011 12:31:46 PM PDT by Eleutheria5

Protesters loyal to Syrian President Bashar Assad briefly broke into the US embassy in Damascus on Monday, while security guards at the French embassy used live ammunition to prevent them gaining access, diplomats told Reuters. No casualties were reported in the attacks, which followed a visit by the US and French ambassadors to the city of Hama last week in support of the hundreds of thousands of pro-democracy demonstrators there despite a harsh crackdown by Assad gunmen.

Assad accused the United States - and Ambassador Robert Ford - of trying to incite the populace against his regime, also saying the US flag was flown in support of the protesters.

But State Department officials on Monday formally condemned Syria for failing to protect the US embassy complex in Damascus from a violent assault it said was encouraged by a pro-government Syrian television station.

"A television station that is heavily influenced by Syrian authorities encouraged this violent demonstration," the State Department said in a statement.

"We strongly condemn the Syrian government's refusal to protect our embassy, and demand compensation for damages. We call on the Syrian government to fulfill its obligations to its own citizens as well," the statement said.

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Well? The French have just out-macho'd the US, and are thus further away from war than the US. And this is an act of war right out of a textbook. What now?
1 posted on 07/11/2011 12:31:50 PM PDT by Eleutheria5
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To: Eleutheria5
Don't worry - Obama is on the phone RIGHT NOW to get advice from Jimmy Carter on how to handle this!

By the way, does this answer any questions about why Israel doesn't want to surrender the Golan Heights?

2 posted on 07/11/2011 12:38:59 PM PDT by In Maryland ("The Federal Government is no longer one of limited and enumerated powers." -Justice Clarence Thomas)
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To: Eleutheria5

OUR embassy is OUR turf (even if it is only the size of a postage stamp) in that country!!

Same with our embassy anywhre else or THEIR embassy HERE! You’d be nailed to the nearest fence with rail road spikes if you even TOUCHED THEIR embassy!!!

Our embassy is our sovereign turf and we have a right and DUTY to defend it. The French did the right thing, too bad Americans don’t know how this stuff works!

Our dimplomatic service, I see, is dummied-down right along with the rest of our society. NOW everybody is at ‘zero’ efficiency!!! ...and at ‘zero’ intelligence!


3 posted on 07/11/2011 12:40:41 PM PDT by SMARTY ("Educate men without religion and you make of them but clever devils. " Arthur Wellesley)
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To: Eleutheria5
Another hostage crisis coming??

"A television station that is heavily influenced by Syrian authorities encouraged this violent demonstration," the State Department said in a statement

Totally owned and controlled by the regime no doubt.... "heavily influenced" is weasel words

4 posted on 07/11/2011 12:41:41 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Eleutheria5
They misspelled ‘asshat’ in the headline...
5 posted on 07/11/2011 12:42:21 PM PDT by WayneS ("I hope you know this will go down on your PERMANENT record...")
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To: Eleutheria5
Some observers, however, question why US embassy security did not - as French security officers did - use live ammunition to protect the embassy themselves.

Because they didn't breach the sanctuary. Had they done that, they would've been met by a Marine Security Guard detachment issuing out buckshot via Remington 870P shotguns in large quantities.

7 posted on 07/11/2011 12:42:28 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Did anybody else flash-back to Nov 4, 1979, when they saw that headline??


9 posted on 07/11/2011 12:42:39 PM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: SMARTY

The security of the outside of the chancery is the responsibility of the local guards. The Marines are responsible for the inside. It wasn’t breeched, so they didn’t get shot.


10 posted on 07/11/2011 12:45:00 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: In Maryland
Correct me if I am wrong, but the Democrats told us in 2007 that Assad was a reformer. Nancy Peloopsi had to go to Damascus to mend relations with Assad the peace maker before war mongering BUSH attacked them...


11 posted on 07/11/2011 12:49:20 PM PDT by 11th Commandment (http://www.thirty-thousand.org/)
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To: Salvavida

“It wasn’t breeched, so they didn’t get shot.”

THAT day is near.

I sure hope “O” handles it better than he has handled anything else to date. Because ... getting your own embassy overrun is real ugly business!


12 posted on 07/11/2011 12:53:27 PM PDT by SMARTY ("Educate men without religion and you make of them but clever devils. " Arthur Wellesley)
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To: In Maryland; All
"Don't worry - Obama is on the phone RIGHT NOW to get advice from Jimmy Carter on how to handle this! "


13 posted on 07/11/2011 12:53:36 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Salvavida

Such standing orders are probably being changed from on high right now.


14 posted on 07/11/2011 12:57:31 PM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: Eleutheria5
Yet again, Hillary Clinton demonstrates that she is the worst secretary of state ever. This is just another bungled oversight by Hillary over the state department, which either should never have allowed the US Ambassador to go travelling around to incite anti-government opinions, or beefed up embassy security and issued shoot to kill orders to defend the compound.

And Obama for having absolutely no clue in his job of Present and not taking the slightest oversight over the State Department.

15 posted on 07/11/2011 12:57:45 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: In Maryland

Questions? What questions? I have one rhetorical question: Why are they even discussing the Golan Heights.

I do believe Assad is getting desperate. Does he really think the people will rally around him if he only gets into a shooting war with the US and France?


16 posted on 07/11/2011 1:00:50 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today)
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To: ctdonath2; SMARTY

Not likely. This has been a policy for decades. The Marine detachments simply are not large enough to defend entire compounds. Plus, the inside of a chancery gives the tactical advantage to the Marines.

It’s a good policy overall. But if the host government isn’t going to own up their responsibility to protect the outside, it’s time for an evacuation.


17 posted on 07/11/2011 1:01:54 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Salvavida

Our ‘diplomats’ should have been out of there by now, anyway!


18 posted on 07/11/2011 1:03:34 PM PDT by SMARTY ("Educate men without religion and you make of them but clever devils. " Arthur Wellesley)
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To: Salvavida

You miss my point.
New orders from on high would be “don’t resist”.


19 posted on 07/11/2011 1:04:22 PM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: SMARTY

We’ll be lucky if he handles it as “well” as Carter did.


20 posted on 07/11/2011 1:09:16 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: ctdonath2

Ahhhhh.....got it. You are right, I missed it. That is a possibility. A high possibility.


21 posted on 07/11/2011 1:10:56 PM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: ctdonath2
With Obama, the standing orders might end up being that the Marines are to put down their arms and organize the American diplomatic employees in neat lines to meet the Syrian mob.
22 posted on 07/11/2011 1:15:14 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: Salvavida

It is past time for an evacuation.

How would you evac them now?


23 posted on 07/11/2011 1:16:44 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: SMARTY
OUR embassy is OUR turf (even if it is only the size of a postage stamp) in that country!!

Actually, no, it's not. That is a widely held misconception. However, the host country may not enter the grounds of an embassy without permission of the nation in question (Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Relations).

The host country is responsible for security on embassy grounds. My worry is that Zero doesn't have the balls to handle an assault on an American embassy with anything approaching competence.

24 posted on 07/11/2011 1:17:11 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (You're either in or in the way.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

“O” would cut them for bait, and never look back!


25 posted on 07/11/2011 1:24:46 PM PDT by SMARTY ("Educate men without religion and you make of them but clever devils. " Arthur Wellesley)
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To: Eleutheria5
Questions? What questions? I have one rhetorical question: Why are they even discussing the Golan Heights.

I'm discussing the Golan Heights because the current situation in Syria demonstrates that the Syrian leadership is willing to ignore human rights, murder its own people, and ignore standards of international behavior when it suits their purpose. And these are the people that liberals thought Israel should give the Golan Heights to if they "promised" not to attack. Thankfully, the Israelis are not as stupid as liberals.

The value of Arab "promises" - whether in the Vienna Conventions, the Geneva Conventions, nuclear non-proliferation or in so-called "peace treaties" is zip, zilch, nada, null. However, they do have a keen sense of who is weak so I expect our embassy will be taken over (a la Tehran) because Assad knows that Obama won't do anything about it.

26 posted on 07/11/2011 1:24:55 PM PDT by In Maryland ("The Federal Government is no longer one of limited and enumerated powers." -Justice Clarence Thomas)
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To: Uncle Ike

I did.


27 posted on 07/11/2011 1:25:46 PM PDT by griswold3 (Character is Destiny)
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To: Eleutheria5

What now? More of this.

The bad guys around the world have figured out that baraq’s enemies are internal and he has no loyalty to this country. Thanks democrats. Here we go again.


28 posted on 07/11/2011 1:28:34 PM PDT by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: Eleutheria5

Remember the bad old days before B.O. when the world didn’t love us so much because of President Bush?

Glad to see Obama fixed that.


29 posted on 07/11/2011 1:33:31 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The more effeminate & debauched the people, the more they are fitted for a tyrannical government.)
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To: Eleutheria5
"A television station that is heavily influenced by Syrian authorities encouraged this violent demonstration," the State Department said in a statement.

"We strongly condemn the Syrian government...

Obama, in a rare off-teleprompter remark, was overheard to say, "Assad, why can't you control your state media and thugs as effectively as I control mine?"

30 posted on 07/11/2011 1:38:52 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The tea party was and is about the right to govern ourselves, according to natural right.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Prayers for the safety of our American citizens there.


31 posted on 07/11/2011 1:43:20 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Proud Mom of a Bronze Star winner!)
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To: Truth29
"With Obama, the standing orders might end up being that the Marines are to put down their arms and organize the American diplomatic employees in neat lines to meet the Syrian mob."

Over the Christmas Holidays I was fortunate enough to hear an interview with Rocky Sickmann, who is currently the Director of Military Sales for Anheuser-Busch. in 1979 he was a 22 year-old Marine at the US Embassy.

He stated that although he was armed, they were under strict orders to not engage, even as the *students* swarmed and overwhelmed the compound.

It was his opinion that he should have fired. He felt that virtually all subsequent Islamic attacks on US interests from the Beirut barracks to 9/11 arose from our failure to show resolve and strength at the onset of the Iranian hostage crisis. He tearfully said that he would give up everything he has, including his job, his family and grandchild if he could go back to that day and pull the trigger.

32 posted on 07/11/2011 1:44:36 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Uncle Ike

“Did anybody else flash-back to Nov 4, 1979, when they saw that headline??”

Yes. Definitely yes. Bad deja vu all over again. Carter - Iran; Obama - Syria.

I wonder if the US is in fact agitating against the government in Syria, as it has in Egypt and Libya, while tacitly condoning Iran. Hussein is indeed more a creature of the Caliphate than the Politburo.


33 posted on 07/11/2011 1:49:26 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (We are not governed. We are occupied.)
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To: Joe 6-pack
That is a shocking, but not surprising story given that Carter was President. The Muslims only respect force. The more we appease and ascribe Western values to Islamists, the more we will get killed.
34 posted on 07/11/2011 1:55:12 PM PDT by Truth29
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To: Psalm 144
I wonder if the US is in fact agitating against the government in Syria, as it has in Egypt and Libya, while tacitly condoning Iran. Hussein is indeed more a creature of the Caliphate than the Politburo.

The community organizing marxist is out in the open now. Of course the leftists are involved in organizing this disorder. It is the arab spring and lone ranger obama rides the rainbow freedom unicorn that shoots democracy dust out of its behind with trusted tonto clinton by his side negotiating universal freedom for homosexual sex and socialism around the world.

35 posted on 07/11/2011 2:00:25 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: Eleutheria5

Do we give monetary aid to Syria?


36 posted on 07/11/2011 2:04:43 PM PDT by homemom
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To: Eleutheria5

Say your prayers and get right with God, Freepers! could we be entering the days of Psalm 83 and

(NASB) Isaiah 17:1 The oracle concerning Damascus. “Behold, Damascus is about to be removed from being a city And will become a fallen ruin.


37 posted on 07/11/2011 2:06:24 PM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: Salvavida

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2746951/posts


38 posted on 07/11/2011 2:09:04 PM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: Eleutheria5

Any hostages blind-folded yet? Should I order a leisure suit?


39 posted on 07/11/2011 2:16:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: ctdonath2

So true. I should think beanbags would be enough to teach the demonstrators that they were making a bad choice.


40 posted on 07/11/2011 2:47:19 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Nuts; A house divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Didn’t the Iranians do something like this when Jimmy Carter was President.

We truly are in the second term of Jimmy Carter


41 posted on 07/11/2011 2:55:33 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: In Maryland

All true. But why is the government of Israel even discussing the Golan. It should be a real short discussion like this:

Syria: Can we have the Golan back? We won’t fire mortars at farmers again. Honest. They’re too fast on their feet, those Jooo! farmers.

Israel: No. ‘bye.


42 posted on 07/11/2011 2:57:02 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today)
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To: Eleutheria5

If we didn’t go to war with Iran for a worse act under Carter, what’s the likelihood we’re going to consider this casus belli with Syria during the tenure of an Oval Office occupant that makes Carter look like an American hero?


43 posted on 07/11/2011 3:38:48 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: Eleutheria5
...security guards at the French embassy used live ammunition to prevent them gaining access, diplomats told Al Reuters.

Merci beaucoup.

44 posted on 07/11/2011 4:16:09 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: OldNewYork

It is cassus belli. If the US chooses not to act on it, or should choose not to, is another matter. Won’t be the first time a country has let such an affront pass. Certainly not the first time for the US. It would actually be a good thing to land on Syria with both feet, thereby destroying the equilibrium of the Iran/Syria/Lebanon cabal, which is not just after Israel.


45 posted on 07/11/2011 4:36:59 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today)
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To: Colonel_Flagg; SMARTY; no-to-illegals; Marine_Uncle; FARS; All

Meanwhile, freedom of peaceful assembly is still respected in this country. Someone I know in DC sent me this eye witness report on the Libya demonstration this weekend in fron of the White House. Interesting to see that the anti NATO/pro Gaddafi group ANSWER, which apparently is a holdover from the old Stalinist lefties had 100 people. Farrakhan and Nation of Islam is also connected. The pro rebel group which has been demonstrating every weekend had about 50 people mostly women and children, as the menfolk fear to be seen on TV thereby endangering family members left in Gaddafi controled Libya.

“Supporters of the Libyan insurgency have been demonstrating in front of the White House every Saturday between 3:00 and 5:00, but they came early last Saturday.

ANSWER had called for people to come from all over the east coast to protest the bombing of Libya beginning at noon. Local Libyans wanted them to have a warm welcome.

ANSWER claimed the prime photo-op spot in the street, closest to the White House. About a hundred people marched and chanted with printed signs saying “NO War for Oil” and “STOP US/NATO War on Libya.”

Facing them about fifteen feet away was a long line of about fifty Libyans waving the flag of the insurgency. They chanted “Our Blood. Our Tears. For Forty Years.” Their signs said “Thank You Obama,” “Thank You NATO.”

Keeping the two sides a safe distance apart were six officers from the U.S. Park Police. Every now and then they had to move the line of Libyans back as it slowly encroached on the de-politicized zone. After an hour, the cops decided it would be easier to demarcate the DPZ and out came sections of barricades which, when linked, left the two groups to harangue each other across a fifteen foot alley populated by photographers.

After calling the demonstration, ANSWER decided to expand its reach to include the Ivory Coast. About a dozen Ivorians joined the picket with signs supporting President Gbagbo and telling “France/UN” to get out of the Cote d’Ivoire.

Demographically the two protests were quite different.

About eighty percent of the four dozen Libyans were women and young children. I asked one why there were so few men and she initially said that this is what the protests looked like in Libya itself. When I pressed her, she said the men were afraid of retaliation on their families.

The ANSWER pickets had gender balance, but no children. Almost all were twenty-somethings, with a scattering of men over fifty. Except for the Ivorians, they didn’t look like they came from Africa or the Middle-East but they did have a lot more dark faces than the Libyans.

Behind the ANSWER picket line was a long table manned by three members of the Nation of Islam, wearing their trademark suits and bow-ties in 90 degree heat. They weren’t chanting or holding signs, but were selling the NOI newspaper and CDs. I didn’t see any buyers. They said they were there because the NOI supports Quaddafi, but didn’t mention that the Libyan dictator has long been a
generous supporter of the NOI. In fact Quaddafi and NOI head Louis Farrakhan have been allies for many years. [http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-farrakhan-gadhafi-0401-20110331,0,1163420.story]

Another Quaddafi supporter is former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney. She has twice visited Tripoli, spoken on Libyan state TV, and been the featured speaker on a recent US tour sponsored by ANSWER. [http://www.answercoalition.org/national/news/eyewitness-libya-tour-success.html]

ANSWER is a front group for the Party for Socialism and Liberation, which split from the Worker’s World Party in 2004. Its Stalinist ancestry perhaps explains its knee-jerk opposition to anything done by the
“imperialistpowers” – which currently means the US, NATO and France. Its leaflet for this event said “it is time to stand up and oppose the racist logic of humanitarian intervention.”

The Libyans said they weren’t mobilized by any organization. They are a loose network of people who know each other and pass on information through e-mail and
Facebook. That’s how they knew to come early for their weekly Saturday demonstration so ANSWER wouldn’t have Pennsylvania Ave. to itself.” [Sorry to post such a long description, but this was from a private communication so I could not use a URL.]

Meanwhile, state TV, Gaddafi’s mouthpiece has managed to make the Egyptians so angry they have cut off broadcast of Libyan state TV in Egypt.

http://technorati.com/politics/article/egypt-pulls-plug-on-libyan-tv/
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46 posted on 07/11/2011 5:03:50 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: kingu

Excellent observation With all the turmoil in the Middle East during the past year or so, Syria in particular, the US Ambassador should not have been permitted to tour the country criticising the government. If he did it with his superiors knowing it; both the Ambassador and his superiors should resign. If he did it on his own without any knowledge of higher ups, he should be fired immediately or at least transferred to some obscure diplomatic post.

Love Pelosi in the headscarf.


47 posted on 07/11/2011 5:12:34 PM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: Eleutheria5

Did we surrender to Syria? What are the terms?


48 posted on 07/11/2011 5:55:53 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (*It does not matter how fast you go. It is how slow you can go, and still win. ~ Juan Manuel Fangio)
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To: In Maryland
The value of Arab "promises"...

Arab promises come on a roll 4.5 inches wide.

49 posted on 07/11/2011 6:44:27 PM PDT by HKMk23 (YHVH NEVER PLAYS DEFENSE! WHICH MEANS; IF YOU'RE ON DEFENSE, YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG.)
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To: Uncle Ike

Yep...I was a kid, but I had just read about Thomas Jefferson and the Barbary Pirates....I learned the difference between a good President and a bad one at a young age....


50 posted on 07/11/2011 7:30:57 PM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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