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Future of America: Harder Than Anything You’ve Experienced In Your Lifetime
SHTF Plan ^ | 7-11-2011 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 07/11/2011 2:54:07 PM PDT by blam

Future of America: Harder Than Anything You’ve Experienced In Your Lifetime

Mac Slavo
July 11th, 2011
SHTFplan.com

In February 0f 2009, while on the Glenn Beck show, trend forecaster Gerald Celente was asked to comment on global events and extraordinary times in which we live. His response should have been a wake up call.

[It will be] Like nothing we’ve ever seen in our lifetime or I would say anyone’s life time.

Since then we’ve seen not billions, but trillions upon trillions of dollars committed to bank bailouts, toxic asset purchases, stock market liquidity infusion, so-called job creation programs, tax breaks and mortgage modifications. The Obama administration has taken every opportunity to tout these programs as evidence of success.

On the one hand, we’re told that the recovery, albeit slower than expected, is in full swing. We were also told in late 2008 that this was a recession. Any discussion about the possibility of another Great Depression was taken off the table by government, media and mainstream economists. The idea that America could enter another depression was simply not possible, and anyone who spoke of such thing was a fear mongering pessimist.

Yet, it seems that we were on the very brink of complete melt-down in 2008. So close, in fact, that administration officials now claim the President’s policies are responsible for avoiding the very scenario that was completely denied as a possibility three years ago:

The American economy was falling off the cliff in the fall of ’08 and the first months of this administratio. And he put in place the most creative, the most forceful set of economy measure we have ever done as a country. And because of that, we’ve preented a second Great Depression and the economy has now been growing for more than a year and a half.

-Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner, Meet the Press, July 10, 2011

At the same time Mr. Geithner explains to us how saddling us with trillions more in debt and expanding government intervention into every aspect of our lives has avoided depression, he warns that things are going to remain tough for the average American. His words are eerily reminiscent of Gerald Celente’s 2009 forecast:

I think it’s going to take a long time still. This is a very tough economy. And I think for a lot of people it’s going to be – it’s going to feel very hard, harder than anything they’ve experienced in their lifetime now, for some time to come.

(Click to the site to see a video by Geitner)

The consensus among the experts who didn’t see the 2008 recession until six months after it was official and then told us the economy would be back to normal by 2011 are the same people who are telling us that a Great Depression has been avoided.

As in 2008, the Great Depression debate is off the table.

For those paying attention, however, it should be clear that the next Great Depression was signaled by the 2008 economic and equities market crash, and the last three years of policy initiatives have done nothing to fix the fundamental problems that caused the crisis in the first place.

An argument could be made that things are actually much worse now – on a number of fronts including the economy, jobs, real estate, deficit spending, national debt, and cost of living – than they were three years ago.

If you’ve haven’t guessed, it is very likely that the reason Americans are going to experience times tougher than anything they have experienced in their lifetimes is because our nation is fully engrossed in the next Great Depression. There is no better example of this than then our 21st century version of soup lines:

It’s real. It’s happening right now. Prepare yourself financially, mentally, spiritually, and physically – because it’s only going to get worse.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bhoeconomy; bhofascism; bipartisan; collapse; cwii; debt; default; democrats; economy; finance; future; geraldcelente; getreadyhereitcomes; globalism; nobama2012; obama; obamadepression; obamanomics; preparedness; preparenow; preppers; socialism; survivalping

1 posted on 07/11/2011 2:54:15 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

These days the government takes kids away from families who live as our grandparents did.


2 posted on 07/11/2011 2:57:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: blam

Delaying the collapse by ignoring reality will just make it worse when it finally hits.

The Great Fall will make the Great Depression look like a picnic.


3 posted on 07/11/2011 2:59:56 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: blam

The difference will be that in the 1930’s when they said ‘Great Depression’ they meant large. When Obama’s team finally says ‘Great Depression’ they’ll try to spin it as something fun - like a great weekend.


4 posted on 07/11/2011 3:00:20 PM PDT by MeganC (Are you better off than you were four years ago?)
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To: cripplecreek
You saw the article about Charlamane and Prince, eh?

(CBS NEWS) Analyst: Even Dollar Stores Struggling In ‘Obama Depression’

5 posted on 07/11/2011 3:00:51 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

“Harder Than Anything You’ve Experienced In Your Lifetime”

I doubt it. You’d have NO idea of the jerks that sat behind me in the school bus when I was a kid!


6 posted on 07/11/2011 3:01:10 PM PDT by MNDude (so that's what they meant by Carter's second term)
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

PING!!!


7 posted on 07/11/2011 3:02:33 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: MeganC
When Obama’s team finally says ‘Great Depression’ they’ll try to spin it as something fun - like a great weekend.

The MSM already has. Remember "funemployment"?

8 posted on 07/11/2011 3:04:46 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Compassionate Conservatism? Promoting self reliance is compassionate. Promoting dependency is not.)
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To: MNDude

Has anyone read the “Zombie Survival Guide”??

It has a great idea about how to prepare for the Zombipocalypse, it’ll work for the Entitlement Zombiepocalypse just as well.


9 posted on 07/11/2011 3:05:36 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: MeganC

“FUNemployment” and “staycation”- 2 ways the juggeared marxist defenders play down economic turmoil due his failed policies.


10 posted on 07/11/2011 3:06:41 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: blam
You saw the article about Charlamane and Prince, eh?

Yeah and while I've never lived without indoor plumbing, I did grow up quite poor and see that I have an enormous advantage over much of modern American society.
11 posted on 07/11/2011 3:07:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Kartographer

For those who are just starting or are old hands at prepping you may find my Preparedness Manual helpfull. You can download it at:

http://www.tomeaker.com/kart/preparedness1i.pdf

For those of you who haven’t started already it’s time to prepare almost past time maybe. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

I think that we are at the very least in for a collapse much like that of Argentina’s ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yerKMQc7-w&feature=grec_index), but as a armed society with a very large entitlement minded population our collapse will be much more violent and I see many many small business wiped out by flash mob looting, and large scale violence (look at what happened just this past Memorial Day and 4th of July weekends)we are seeing these mobs grow bolder and bolder like:

Chicago’s CBS 2’s Jim Williams reports, the problem of mob attacks downtown is much bigger than the weekend beatings, according to beat cops who wanted to remain anonymous.”

And it’s not just Chicago, but Washington DC, Las Vegas, St Paul, Philadelphia and on most major big ‘Blue’ cities are increasingly reporting such flash mobs and gang muggings. Look what happened just this past weekend in Peoria, Il:

http://peoriachronicle.com/2011/06/25/peorians-living-in-fear/

Teenage Flash Mob Robberies on the Rise:

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/18/top-five-most-brazen-flash-mob-robberies/

Rash of violence isn’t flash mobs, it’s wilding

http://www.suntimes.com/news/roeper/5826624-417/rash-of-violence-isnt-flash-mobs-its-wilding.html

Teens in a mob assault and rob Center City patrons

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20110629_Teens_in_a_mob_assault_and_rob_Center_City_patrons.html

Milwaukee Police Go Barney Fife On Mob Attacks

http://www.620wtmj.com/blogs/jeffwagner/125017329.html

Milwaukee Mob Victim Recalls Beating ... ‘Oh, White Girl Bleeds a Lot’

http://nation.foxnews.com/flash-mob-robberies/2011/07/06/oh-white-girl-bleeds-lot-race-mob-attack-rocks-milwaukee

I see what I call ‘Pocket Pogroms’ taking place in many big ‘Blue’ cities and if you aren’t a “0bamamite yutes” it’s going to get Reginald Denny bad for you very quickly.

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”

Or as the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger.

Underestimation can be fatal.”


12 posted on 07/11/2011 3:09:57 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: blam

Start liberty gardens.....now. The worse that can happen is a little work and great food for free.


13 posted on 07/11/2011 3:13:02 PM PDT by RC2
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To: MeganC

As in, “Barack and Slow Joe’s Excellent Depression?”


14 posted on 07/11/2011 3:13:51 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota (Which are you? A producer, a looter, or a moocher of wealth?)
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To: cripplecreek

“And I think for a lot of people it’s going to be – it’s going to feel very hard, harder than anything they’ve experienced in their lifetime now, for some time to come.”

Why do I get the feeling he left off the words “present company excluded, of course” on purpose.


15 posted on 07/11/2011 3:16:18 PM PDT by ngat
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To: RC2

“The worse that can happen is a little work and great food for free.”

No it’s isn’t worse that can happen:
Michigan Resident Faces 93 Days in Jail For Vegetable Garden

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/08/michigan-resident-faces-3-days-in-jail-for-vegetable-garden/#ixzz1RpwB0j00


16 posted on 07/11/2011 3:16:50 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: RC2

No one ever talks about the importance of emotional state in an economic disaster situation. Liberals are going to be in really bade shape because they’re already depressed and jealous.

On the other hand, I grew up poor and find that being broke has zero effect on my emotional state. Plus, I couldn’t care less about those who have more.


17 posted on 07/11/2011 3:20:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: blam
"Future of America: Harder Than Anything You’ve Experienced In Your Lifetime "

But...but...but...we were promised "hope" and "change!"

18 posted on 07/11/2011 3:22:14 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: Kartographer

That’s a suburb of Detroit. I live 70 miles west of there in the USA and we do as we please with our yards. I’ve got two gardens now.


19 posted on 07/11/2011 3:22:25 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: All

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20 posted on 07/11/2011 3:30:34 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: blam
And I think for a lot of people it’s going to be – it’s going to feel very hard, harder than anything they’ve experienced in their lifetime now, for some time to come.

I can guarantee it's not going to be too difficult for our rulers that have created this mess. They hardly even attempt to conceal the corruption and self enrichment these days.

21 posted on 07/11/2011 3:38:40 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: cripplecreek
"These days the government takes kids away from families who live as our grandparents did."

Yes. Federal funding to local government for deeds like that was passed by both Democrats and Republicans--much of it under the Clintons and bipartisan Congress.

There will be a bond collapse, rapidly rising interest rates, foreclosures, government layoffs, more service business closings, and so on: vicious circles. There's no large manufacturing base or worthwhile currency for supporting big, feminized government. Social "services" such as the kind of event mentioned by you will be gone along with many other offices of wrongdoing, and enforcement of the various measures against potential domestic competition (families) will be much more humble. Well...nonexistant.

Socialism will huff, and she will puff. But her days in America will come to a close before long. Ironically, many of the local government beneficiaries will scream that we're being taken over by socialists, when their days of consequences arrive. They do love to indulge in propaganda and multi-party influence.


22 posted on 07/11/2011 3:41:59 PM PDT by familyop ("Nice girl, but about as sharp as a sack of wet mice." --Foghorn Leghorn)
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To: Kartographer

Are you kidding me? This is ridiculous... I am afraid issue’s like this is going to start ending very violent. I hope not BUT....


23 posted on 07/11/2011 3:47:42 PM PDT by bbernard
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To: Kartographer

Are you kidding me? This is ridiculous... I am afraid issue’s like this is going to start ending very violent. I hope not BUT....


24 posted on 07/11/2011 3:47:56 PM PDT by bbernard
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To: familyop

Liberal cattle will be the ones who hurt most of all. If you listen to them you realize just how depressed and hopeless they all feel. Its because they’re told that there is no hope without government.


25 posted on 07/11/2011 3:48:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Kartographer
"No it’s isn’t worse that can happen: Michigan Resident Faces 93 Days in Jail For Vegetable Garden"

One thing that I've learned: there's always a way around regulations. One only needs to read the regulations, think, invent, design and build more around. Meanwhile, save, and take plenty of time to study, think, plan and prepare to counter with more well prepared, multi-pronged efforts. A day will come, when we truly private interests will be in charge.


26 posted on 07/11/2011 3:52:18 PM PDT by familyop (Rome was burned in a day--twice.)
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To: cripplecreek
"Liberal cattle will be the ones who hurt most of all. If you listen to them you realize just how depressed and hopeless they all feel. Its because they’re told that there is no hope without government."

Agreed. Maybe they even subconsciously know that they'll feel naked and afraid without their trappings of officiousness. Another thing: to use some of their own language projected against others of their own kind, "they're guilty as hell, and they know it."


27 posted on 07/11/2011 3:57:32 PM PDT by familyop ("Don't worry, they'll row for a month before they figure out I'm fakin' it." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: familyop

I always pick my liberal relatives brains and find some interesting insights and occasionally teach a lesson.

They think almost exclusively in terms of rich vs poor and can’t understand how both rich and poor people can live harmoniously in my little town with virtually no crime.

The answer is simple conservative values. I’m happy with what I have and I don’t feel that my wealthier neighbors owe me anything. My wealthier neighbors are happy with what they have and know I’m not taking anything from them.

Its kind of funny that we conservatives achieve the harmony that liberals believe can only come with the help of government equally distributing wealth. All it would take for them to be happy, is to realize that they don’t need equal wealth.


28 posted on 07/11/2011 4:13:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: familyop
Good advice.

Years ago, I remember some people who purchased a bar & grill down by the river front. There was absolutely nothing else on either side of the property lines (in fact, the east side was formerly the site of the city wastewater plant).

They wanted to tear the building down and build new. For some reason, the city wouldn't give them the permits to do it. So they “remodeled”. They literally built new walls all around the original structure. They then went inside and gutted the place!

29 posted on 07/11/2011 4:14:13 PM PDT by 2111USMC (Not a hard man to track. Leaves dead men wherever he goes.)
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To: blam

The future of the USA; one word for ya......

Americathon.

An otherwise mediocre, forgettable film, however, I checked it out to refresh my memory on wikipedia. Frighteningly enough, it wasn’t so off. On the prescience scale, not as good as “Network”, but not too shabby for a crap film.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americathon


30 posted on 07/11/2011 4:19:47 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (America is the land of opportunity; live in it. -Bruce Campbell)
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To: All

Oh, and it’s late here in Germany, so if I don’t respond, it’s because I’m calling it a day.

If anyone finds Americathon as downloadable, let everyone know. It’s not as good as “Idiocracy”, which is a scathing satire of pop culture, but I’d like to see Americathon again. Might as well have a laugh as it all goes to hell.


31 posted on 07/11/2011 4:22:07 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (America is the land of opportunity; live in it. -Bruce Campbell)
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To: cripplecreek

Agreed. There’s quite a mix of poor and moderately wealthy in my very sparsely populated and remote area, too. Can’t say that most of them are very friendly, but some of us are working on that. Coveting is a waste of time and government resources.


32 posted on 07/11/2011 4:25:00 PM PDT by familyop (Rome was burned in a day--twice.)
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To: familyop
Not a lot of room for rich and poor neighborhoods in my vast metropolis.

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33 posted on 07/11/2011 4:30:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

I actually saw it at the drive-in in 1979. I never dreamed we would be living it 32 years later.


34 posted on 07/11/2011 4:42:43 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: cripplecreek

Your place is beautiful. Mine is somewhat like Mars, at over 9,000 feet, just east of some peaks, on the CO Rockies. The power grid’s about 3 miles away, there are usually high winds (gusts over 100 during winter), extreme cold most of the year (maybe high 30s at night now), and it’s a very dry place (precip. mostly snow, which can get very deep once in a great while). Building here is a little slow and rough, but it’s an adventure. ;-)


35 posted on 07/11/2011 4:52:51 PM PDT by familyop ("Dry land is not just our destination, it is our destiny!" --"Deacon," "Waterworld")
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To: cripplecreek

We’re only trying very short season vegetables in the new garden now. The sterile, hard-packed soil will take another year or two to fix up. Some of the vegetables will most likely need to be covered next year (mid-summer hailstorms, winds, freezes, etc.), but we’re going to find out as to which ones first.


36 posted on 07/11/2011 4:55:42 PM PDT by familyop ("Dry land is not just our destination, it is our destiny!" --"Deacon," "Waterworld")
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To: blam

We’re prepping and we’re ready. We got food, water and bullets. What more do we need?


37 posted on 07/11/2011 5:23:17 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: blam
Food. Clothing. Weapons. Survival Goods. Gold and stashed (foreign) cash. Passport. Ammunition. Emergency generators. Water purification. Bibles. Candles. Crank Radios. And lots of true grit. I mean courage and American Staying Power.

Get Ready. The train is rolling into the station. Foreigners who analyze US movements from abroad see this very clearly. It comes up in many of my discussions overseas with foreigners looking objectively at America and its future days.

Don't be unprepared when the human fecal material hits the rapidly-rotating air cooling device.

38 posted on 07/11/2011 5:48:12 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Herman Cain is high on my list, but Michelle Bachman is gaining poker chips by the day!)
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To: paul51

If you call molten tar with feathers not difficult, then I agree.


39 posted on 07/11/2011 6:34:37 PM PDT by realpatriot (Some spelling (and grammar for the grammar nazis) errers entionally included!)
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To: MNDude

“You’d have NO idea of the jerks that sat behind me in the school bus when I was a kid!”
^^^^^^^^^

I was tortured — and I do mean tortured — in public school, so I’ve met the jerks you’re talking about. Hate to tell you, but those kids are now running the country.

Bullies don’t really outgrow being bullies. They just choose certain professions.


40 posted on 07/11/2011 7:37:03 PM PDT by PastorBooks
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To: GOPsterinMA; Liz

I keep hoping that we can hang in there until 2013 and then after Obama is voted out, a new administration can restore confidence and fiscal sanity.


41 posted on 07/11/2011 10:06:06 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: blam
As a teenager, I picked pennies out of gutters to buy enough coffee to take the edge off the hunger.

I hadn't eaten in three days. That bad?

42 posted on 07/11/2011 10:26:03 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: realpatriot

never happen....and unfortunately they realize it. Over 30 years the rulers turned it up one degree at a time. Now the pot is at full boil and the frog has been dead for a long time and the rulers are free to do whatever they want with impunity. They don’t even make much effort to conceal the corruption or largess any more.


43 posted on 07/11/2011 11:17:20 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: cripplecreek
On the other hand, I grew up poor and find that being broke has zero effect on my emotional state. Plus, I couldn’t care less about those who have more.

I have worked until my hands bled. I have gone a week without food. I have hunted and fished just to eat. I have heated my abode with wood in a brutal winter, and had to thaw the water jug to have water. The outhouse...that puts all else in perspective.

I had hoped for more for my grandchildren (still do), but if need be, I can teach them what they need to know if they weren't paying attention.

44 posted on 07/12/2011 12:25:25 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Let’s hope so...


45 posted on 07/12/2011 6:15:57 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA (Perry/Bachmann 2012 - they can share hair care products.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

The day several years ago when Nancy Pelosi sashayed in with her giant gavel and took over as Speaker of the House; and Harry Reid assumed control of the Senate - downhill every day after that. Then, to put the cherry on top of the sundae, Barack Hussein Obama was elected (with the endorsement of John McCain what more could he ask), and then it was disaster. - I recall the years of Republican control as “The Good Old Days”.

Oh well, as Coulter once wrote; the drunken uncle has to be brought out of the closet every few years and allowed to act up so people will be reminded that Uncle Donkey will ALWAYS behave in the same drunken disorderly manner.


46 posted on 07/12/2011 6:41:11 AM PDT by Twinkie (For whoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:13)
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To: GeronL

Which one?


47 posted on 07/12/2011 9:15:07 AM PDT by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: buccaneer81; AnAmericanAbroad

John Ritter was a much better actor than Obama.


48 posted on 07/12/2011 10:06:29 AM PDT by oblomov
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