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'Címon, Man!' Exclaims VP in Deficit Meeting. 'Letís Get Real!'
ABC News ^ | 07/11/11 | Jake Tapper

Posted on 07/11/2011 4:35:32 PM PDT by MissesBush

Officials familiar with the negotiations say today’s meeting began with President Obama asking House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va., to lay out what was agreed upon in the deficit reduction talks led by Vice President Biden.

Cantor outlined around $2 trillion in deficit reduction over the next decade: $1–1.1 trillion in discretionary spending; $200 billion in mandatory discretionary spending (such as civilian military retirement and farm subsidies); $200 billion in Medicare and Medicaid; and roughly $200-300 billion in saved interest on the debt.

After Cantor’s presentation, the President said the two sides might be able to reach consensus on roughly $1.7 trillion, though there were still some issues to resolve.

House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, has said the amount they agree to in deficit reduction needs to be equal to – if not more than – the amount they agree to raise the debt ceiling.

How much is that? There seemed to be consensus in the room that the amount by which they need to raise the debt ceiling is $2.4 trillion.

That would get the government to February or March 2013. Why that date? No one thinks a lame duck Congress should take this on from November-January 2012/2013 and that would allow the new Congress and maybe a new President to get his or her sea legs before addressing this again.

So tomorrow’s homework assignment, the president said, is for the congressional leaders to figure out how to get from $1.7 trillion to $2.4 trillion.

Republicans are still insisting on no new taxes. Democrats say they need some revenues – a “balanced approach” – to get Democratic votes. As House Minority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Maryland, said today, “Republicans must be prepared to make concessions of their own and not put the entire burden on seniors, the middle class and the most vulnerable among us."

Congressional leaders will need Democratic votes not only in the Senate but the House as well. “You’ve got the (Michele) Bachmann Caucus that has made it clear they won’t vote for anything,” one Democratic official said.

Boehner said at one point that “it’s clear to all of us how big this spending problem is. Congress keeps voting for programs we can’t pay for. But look, entitlement cuts aren’t easy for us to vote for either. Our guys aren’t cheerleading about cutting entitlements.”

“Your guys already voted for them,” the president said, referring to the budget offered by House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wisc.

“Excuse us for trying to lead,” Boehner said.

The president today continued to make the case for a big deal, arguing that if they’re going to draw heat for the deal, they should at least do more than make a down payment on the deficit – they should get the country on sounder financial footing and begin to seriously bend the deficit cost curve.

During another exchange, Republicans were going through proposed tax increases as bad for jobs.

"C’mon, man!” Vice President Biden exclaimed, “let’s get real!"

The Vice President argued that their opposition isn't economic, it's ideological, that no real economist thinks they're "job killers."

In terms of the big deal President Obama and Speaker Boehner discussed in the past – for around $4 trillion in deficit reduction --, Democrats say the Republicans walked away from major spending cuts, entitlement reform, and tax reform, all because part of the trigger mechanism if the tax reform was not achieved by the end of 2012 was the risk that the Bush tax cuts on the wealthiest Americans would have expired. Democrats insisted that one commitment for tax reform needed to be that the new code needed to be “at least as progressive” as the current tax code.

“Ronald Reagan would have accepted this plan,” one of the Democratic officials said.

The meeting broke after about an hour and a half.

“We’ll meet tomorrow at the White House at 3:45,” the president said.

“A.M. or P.M.?” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., joked.

“It may come to that,” the president said.

-Jake Tapper


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abcnewsiscrap; biden; boehner; cantor; debtceiling; debtlimit; debttalks; hoyer; reid
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One of Douchebag Joe's childish and unprofessional outbursts. Yeah Joe, let's get real--raising taxes in a slow growth, high unemployment, no job creation economy is about as dumb as taking up smoking when you're diagnosed with emphasema. The GOPers in the room should have said "You're right Joe. We're getting real by getting the Hell out of here." Crimeny, I'm at the point of saying let these bastards raise all the taxes they want so they can crash the economy even worse than they already have and ensure Obama will never be elected to even anything so much as dog catcher again.
1 posted on 07/11/2011 4:35:33 PM PDT by MissesBush
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To: MissesBush

In the end we will get pretend cuts “over a decade” in exchange for the higher debt ceiling.

and the GOP will do a victory dance.

ugh


2 posted on 07/11/2011 4:38:38 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: MissesBush
As House Minority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Maryland, said today...

What happened to Nancy Pelosi?

I thought Hoyer was the Minority Whip?

-PJ

3 posted on 07/11/2011 4:38:49 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Everyone's Irish on St. Patrick's Day, Mexican on Cinco de Mayo, and American on Election Day.)
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To: MissesBush

4 posted on 07/11/2011 4:38:53 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (FreeRepublic.com. Now, More Than Ever.)
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To: MissesBush

One of the defining moments in history is Rick Santelli’s rant that led to the Tea Party Movement. If we hadn’t gotten control of the House we would be a serious trouble. As it is, if it wasn’t for the pressure from the American Public ...Republicans would have already caved.


5 posted on 07/11/2011 4:39:59 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: MissesBush

2 Trillion over the next decade???? Is he crazy! how about 4 trillion next year???


6 posted on 07/11/2011 4:40:06 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: MissesBush

DO NOT let this be an issue that is moved passed the next election!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


7 posted on 07/11/2011 4:41:10 PM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: MissesBush
"Cmon Man Lets Get Real"="Roll Over Like Always"

Dear God please give the GOP courage to stand firm at long last.

8 posted on 07/11/2011 4:41:24 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: GeronL

“In the end we will get pretend cuts “over a decade” in exchange for the higher debt ceiling.”

And higher taxes immediately.


9 posted on 07/11/2011 4:43:31 PM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: MissesBush
“We’ll meet tomorrow at the White House at 3:45,” the president said. “A.M. or P.M.?” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., joked. “It may come to that,” the president said.

I still think it's a mistake to bypass the Senate Democrats and take this directly to Obama.

Anything Obama agrees to still has to pass the Senate, which has not even passed its own budget resolution yet.

Furthermore, this just gives Obama another platform to look "presidential" going into the 2012 election. It also gives the MSM another issue to pound Republicans with until they cave in to pressure.

Republicans instead should have put the pressure on Harry Reid to get the Senate to go on record with a budget plan of their own, and continue to make Obama look like the bystander that he really is.

-PJ

10 posted on 07/11/2011 4:43:41 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Everyone's Irish on St. Patrick's Day, Mexican on Cinco de Mayo, and American on Election Day.)
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Cantor outlined around $2 trillion in deficit reduction over the next decade:

This is his starting point? After the way the Democrats have run up spending, it should be $2 trillion in TWO years!

Unbelievable.

11 posted on 07/11/2011 4:44:12 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: GeronL

Let’s not pre-judge this. So far they’re holding the line against the media’s bombardment and against the Democrats’ lying demagoguery and “economic armageddon” b.s. spew. Give them some credit for holding up against the onslaught. Let’s see what comes of this before assuming defeat. We shouldn’t get so cynical that we assume we’ll always be betrayed nor that the Democrats will always win. If the GOP holds the line against tax cutting and this is all done by making budget cuts, trust me, their side is not going to be popping any corks. Indeed, their could well be talk on that side of putting Obama through a primary. Buck up.


12 posted on 07/11/2011 4:45:23 PM PDT by MissesBush (Obama logic re: Weiner. Twitter your junk = I would resign. Destroy a nation = I deserve re-election)
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To: GeronL
So tomorrow’s homework assignment, the president said

Adjunct Professor Obama is back to barking out orders for the children in Congress.

13 posted on 07/11/2011 4:46:10 PM PDT by Carling (At some point, those surrounding Obama have to realize that they are working for a psychopath)
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To: MissesBush

Is ole Slow Joe calling this the The Summer of Recovery 3.0?


14 posted on 07/11/2011 4:46:36 PM PDT by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Let’s remember we don’t control the Senate and White House. Let’s get control of those, then we can talk about bigger things. We can only do what we’re realistically capable of getting done. The rest will come later.


15 posted on 07/11/2011 4:47:08 PM PDT by MissesBush (Obama logic re: Weiner. Twitter your junk = I would resign. Destroy a nation = I deserve re-election)
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To: Carling

He has a superiority complex to make Al Gore and John Kerry cringe.


16 posted on 07/11/2011 4:47:49 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: GeronL

“Excuse us for trying to lead,” Boehner said.

This was a nice retort.


17 posted on 07/11/2011 4:49:27 PM PDT by BIV (typical white person)
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To: All

Help Stop This Evil Duo In 2012
With Your Monthly
Or One-Time FR Donations

18 posted on 07/11/2011 4:50:35 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: MissesBush

Can a man with bad hair plugs talk about getting real?


19 posted on 07/11/2011 4:52:11 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
Anything Obama agrees to still has to pass the Senate, which has not even passed its own budget resolution yet.

I'm sure there are at least a dozen republican challengers to democrat encumbent senators that would love to see their future opponent twisting in the wind for supporting tax increases.

20 posted on 07/11/2011 4:53:30 PM PDT by skeeter
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