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AP Sources: GM to sell diesel Chevy Cruze in US
Yahoo/AP ^ | July 11, 2011 | Tom Krisher

Posted on 07/11/2011 7:07:16 PM PDT by MulberryDraw

DETROIT (AP) -- The Chevrolet Cruze, the most popular car in the U.S. last month, will come in a diesel version that could boost gas mileage to around 50 mpg, two people briefed on General Motors Co. product plans said Monday.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: automobiles; diesel
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Does Obama know about this? Or is this a skunkwork?
1 posted on 07/11/2011 7:07:22 PM PDT by MulberryDraw
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To: MulberryDraw

Will the diesel model include the steering wheel?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2_b4V6C4aM


2 posted on 07/11/2011 7:09:28 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: MulberryDraw

Sounds like a nice car, but I’ll never buy a GM. I don’t like union thugs who use government to steal from their fellow citizens.


3 posted on 07/11/2011 7:09:55 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Coming soon...DADT for Christians!)
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To: MulberryDraw

Is this a second Vega?


4 posted on 07/11/2011 7:10:12 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: Red Badger

Diesel ping.


5 posted on 07/11/2011 7:11:32 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Anybody look at diesel fuel prices lately?


6 posted on 07/11/2011 7:13:00 PM PDT by doc1019 (You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Is this a second Vega?

An interesting thing about Vegas. The engine compartment and engine mounts would allow one to fit a small block Chevy. It was favored by some because of the low weight of the vehicle. Put a stout 350 in there and they would fly.

7 posted on 07/11/2011 7:14:50 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((((unite))))
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To: MulberryDraw

Volkswagen Jetta TDI.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it UAW !


8 posted on 07/11/2011 7:15:12 PM PDT by onona (I stand with SARAH !)
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To: MulberryDraw

I’d learn to levitate before I bought a government motors vehicle.


9 posted on 07/11/2011 7:16:11 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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To: MulberryDraw

It’s taken this long for an American car manufacturer to produce a diesel-powered car. And it had to be Government Motors.

Better to get the VW Jetta TDI at 58mpg with a steering wheel we know won’t fall off.


10 posted on 07/11/2011 7:17:13 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I wish they’d put it in a Tiguan and make the Tiguan less fugly. I’m dying for a small or mid-size diesel SUV. Diesel is like a hybrid for people who can do math.


11 posted on 07/11/2011 7:19:34 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. -- G.K. Chesterton)
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To: MulberryDraw

I’ll never buy another GM product.


12 posted on 07/11/2011 7:19:34 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: CitizenUSA

“Sounds like a nice car, but I’ll never buy a GM. I don’t like union thugs who use government to steal from their fellow citizens.”

Agree...I love Diesels too, but NEVER GM (or any other UAW car). We might as well simply contribute to Obama’s re-election and be done with it...if we buy one of their cars.


13 posted on 07/11/2011 7:19:55 PM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: MulberryDraw; All

14 posted on 07/11/2011 7:23:18 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: max americana
Maybe they could include an extra wheel and have some fun with it:

I know it is old, but still funny!

15 posted on 07/11/2011 7:23:28 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (When you hear hooves, think horses, not zebras.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Do what, GM produced diesel powered cars back in the eighties and they screwed that up royally as usual, they took a 350 olds gas motor and converted it to a diesel, the first ones they built blew the oil pans off because the wonderful engineers forgot to include a sump vacuum system. by the time they had all the factory screw ups fixed it had such a bad name no-one wanted to buy it.


16 posted on 07/11/2011 7:24:36 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: MulberryDraw

Hope it works better than the last GM diesel.

Can you say “massive fail”?


17 posted on 07/11/2011 7:25:40 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: MulberryDraw; sully777; vigl; Cagey; Abathar; A. Patriot; B Knotts; getsoutalive; muleskinner; ...
Rest In Peace, old friend, your work is finished.... If you want ON or OFF the DIESEL ”KnOcK” LIST just FReepmail me..... This is a fairly HIGH VOLUME ping list on some days.....
18 posted on 07/11/2011 7:28:04 PM PDT by Red Badger (Casey Anthony: "Surprise, surprise."...............)
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To: MulberryDraw

I’ll believe it when I see it. GM also promised a 4.5l Duramax, but when the government took over, they put the kibosh on it.


19 posted on 07/11/2011 7:38:05 PM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: onona

“Volkswagen Jetta TDI.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it UAW !”

Bingo.

I bought one new in 1999 and still have it. it has 168,000 miles on it, I get 45+/- MPG, and plan on getting another 168,000 miles out of it.


20 posted on 07/11/2011 7:42:09 PM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: CitizenUSA
Sounds like a nice car, but I’ll never buy a GM. I don’t like union thugs who use government to steal from their fellow citizens.

My thoughts exactly. I don't care if it gets 200 mpg and costs less than a gallon of diesel. I will not buy another GM product, ever, for any reason. I am boycotting that corrupt organization until they die a richly deserved death.

21 posted on 07/11/2011 7:44:27 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: B Knotts

Yes. The 4.5L Duramax would be kicking butt right now if they had gone with it.


22 posted on 07/11/2011 7:45:46 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: org.whodat

My ride share mate bought one of those Olds Diesels. We were late for work 8X. Everything that could go wrong went wrong -— Blown head gaskets 4X; Blown pad gasket 3X; Quit fuel pump 1X. He parked it. I drove my good old Chevette for the next 2 years.


23 posted on 07/11/2011 7:46:15 PM PDT by TaMoDee (GO PACK GO to Super Bowl XLVI)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

I wish VW would have sold the Lupo over here when they were manufacturing them up until 2005. They get up to 78mpg.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Lupo


24 posted on 07/11/2011 7:48:31 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: MulberryDraw

That worked out real well last time.

On the other hand, some people know how to build one.

25 posted on 07/11/2011 7:56:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Gov. Sarah Palin. What'll you do?)
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To: MulberryDraw
The Chevrolet Cruze, the most popular car in the U.S. last month, will come in a diesel version that could boost gas mileage to around 50 mpg

That would be an amazing engineering accomplishment since it doesn't use gas.


26 posted on 07/11/2011 8:11:43 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The more effeminate & debauched the people, the more they are fitted for a tyrannical government.)
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To: TaMoDee
Piss poor GM engineering, I bough the little woman a cat with a diesel in it, it laid down at 300,000. but then i was the only one that worked on it. And it was the last production year.
27 posted on 07/11/2011 8:19:39 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: MulberryDraw

Once my current GM product bites the dust, I hope that Ford will have introduced a diesel-powered Focus. I will never buy GM again.


28 posted on 07/11/2011 8:25:25 PM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked..." - BHO)
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To: scott7278

My sentiments exactly. I’m trying to figure out how to take advantage of my $3,000 accumulated on my GM card without actually having to by another Government Motors vehicle.


29 posted on 07/11/2011 8:36:15 PM PDT by Principle Over Politics (Permit Carry is not Constitutional. I expected the democrats to lie to me, but not the republicans.)
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To: scott7278

Last year while in Europe, I drove a Ford C-Max (I think it’s now sold here under the Focus name, specifically the 4-door hatchback model) with the diesel and 5-speed manual. Nice driving little car; I’d certainly consider buying one if offered here in that configuration.


30 posted on 07/11/2011 8:57:31 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: He Rides A White Horse

I remember those with the 350 swap. The things went like raped apes.


31 posted on 07/11/2011 9:07:50 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Obama: Making the Carter malaise look good. Misery Index in 3...2...1)
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To: Principle Over Politics; Charles Martel

I’ve had the same electrical issues with my last two GM products, and they don’t even share the same platform (Bravada and Grand Prix). Ford has made great quality control improvements, and the Focus is a tough little booger.


32 posted on 07/11/2011 9:17:32 PM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked..." - BHO)
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To: scott7278

I’d bet your more likely to see a diesel festiva than a focus.

I’d buy one.

A GM diesel? (a GM anything) no fricking way.

BTW ford was going to do a V6 power stroke. It died a slow death in the medium duty cab overs. I don’t think they could get it to run clean enough to put in a F150.


33 posted on 07/11/2011 9:25:09 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: scott7278

I’d bet your more likely to see a diesel festiva than a focus.

I’d buy one.

A GM diesel? (a GM anything) no fricking way.

BTW ford was going to do a V6 power stroke. It died a slow death in the medium duty cab overs. I don’t think they could get it to run clean enough to put in a F150.


34 posted on 07/11/2011 9:25:20 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: MulberryDraw

This may be the new skunkworks GM diesel I read about a couple years ago. If so, it was redesigned from the ground up, making it a much smaller engine. Apparently, the final design was radically different than any other diesel engine ever designed.

It all sounded really cool, but then GM hit the skids.

No matter how cool it is, I won’t buy it. The quality of the car it would go into would be crud and the unions, GM and 0bama will be justified for their sick work.

Go pound sand, GM.


35 posted on 07/11/2011 9:28:54 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: MulberryDraw

WOW!

Excellent if true. This would mean a competitor to the VW TDI turbo diesel, which is currently (way) overpriced.

Hope it's true, and I want one.
36 posted on 07/11/2011 9:28:56 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (SOAK THE GLOBALISTS. Globalists destroy US jobs.)
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To: MulberryDraw

I’ve owned many GM automobiles throughout my life but I’ll never own another. I just helped my daughter buy a Toyota. What a beautiful car.


37 posted on 07/11/2011 11:07:48 PM PDT by Dapper 26
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To: onona; Red Badger; MileHi

Agree.... Folks hypermile those with few mods an a light foot up to an or near 60mpg around here where cruise control an 50 miles between towns is the norm.

One guy stripped a golf tdi of all excess weight an did some poorboy engineering an ground effects modifications for his commuter car. He left AC/Heater defrost an XM sat radio. Bridgestone runflat tires so he could dump the spare an jack.

I think he removed backseats an replaced his fuel tank as well....

I drive a 06 Cummins dodge 4x4 crew cab every day an can milk about 22mpg with a light touch on the pedal an use of cruise control but if fuel gets much worse I’m gonna build a hypermile tdi commuter car as well.....

Neighbor has a Nissan 350Z with a blown engine that is just begging for an oil burner to get that rice smell out if it....:o)


38 posted on 07/11/2011 11:14:42 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: max americana

“Will the diesel model include the steering wheel?”

Part of your overall gas mileage savings—if you can’t drive it, you get better MPG.


39 posted on 07/11/2011 11:25:45 PM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: scott7278

“I hope that Ford will have introduced a diesel-powered Focus.” There’s a disel powered focus since the focus is sold, but only on the other side of the pond.

There are only three companies capable of producing reliable cars with automatic transmission that withstand the massive torque of diesel engines: VW , Merc and BMW.

All other diesels should be bought with a manual gear box instead. So: No i won’t buy a GM diesel without a manual gear box.

http://www.ford.de/Pkw-Modelle/FordFocus/Motoren_und_Getriebe


40 posted on 07/12/2011 2:25:27 AM PDT by buzzer
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To: Trod Upon
A small-block Chevrolet V8 engine fits in the engine compartment; and a big-block V8 will fit with minor chassis modifications.

I just read this at Wikipedia. A big block Chevy will fit with minor chassis modifications. (Whistle.) Wow. You would have to really work on the chassis IMHO in either case. The torque would probably tear it apart.

41 posted on 07/12/2011 2:52:58 AM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((((unite))))
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To: MulberryDraw

I can’t bring myself to buy an Obamacar.

I have a TDI that’s getting long in the tooth and would love to be able to get a Subabru with a diesel. Supposedly, they are coming to the US, but I don’t know when.


42 posted on 07/12/2011 4:19:36 AM PDT by Salo
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To: Jack Hydrazine
It’s taken this long for an American car manufacturer to produce a diesel-powered car. And it had to be Government Motors.

Government Motors' Oldsmobile division did dive in head first in the diesel market in the 1980s, selling over one million units, but found there was no water in the pool when they tried to modify gasoline V-8 engine blocks to run as diesels, and failed.

That experience with hundreds of thousands of vehicles needing engine swaps supposedly soured the US public on diesels for decades.

43 posted on 07/12/2011 4:30:58 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: org.whodat

” Do what, GM produced diesel powered cars back in the eighties and they screwed that up royally as usual, they took a 350 olds gas motor and converted it to a diesel, the first ones they built blew the oil pans off because the wonderful engineers forgot to include a sump vacuum system. by the time they had all the factory screw ups fixed it had such a bad name no-one wanted to buy it. “

A friend of mine owns a Chevy store. I drove the cruze(gas). It is a good car for the money. Diesel? No way, it won’t sell.


44 posted on 07/12/2011 6:39:36 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: MulberryDraw

Wonder how they pulled that one off. Chrysler tried that 5 or so years ago and was back-handed by the EPA for their efforts.


45 posted on 07/12/2011 6:57:02 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: factoryrat
Wonder how they pulled that one off. Chrysler tried that 5 or so years ago and was back-handed by the EPA for their efforts.

They bought off the right politicians.

46 posted on 07/12/2011 6:59:37 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You forgot to throw in the Pinto and Gremlin. Much has changed since 1977 (the last year the Vega was built).


47 posted on 07/12/2011 7:02:40 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: dfwgator

Must have been. BTW the engines thet were testing were sourced by the same company that builds them for VW. They came in 2.0 and 2.8L displacements. VM out of Italy I think.


48 posted on 07/12/2011 7:13:48 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: factoryrat

Please don’t mistake me, I thought the Vega looked cool and drove cool (as possible for a rear wheel drive car). But they redefined “rust bucket.” Just try to find one even as a non drivable display antique today.


49 posted on 07/12/2011 8:24:25 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: CitizenUSA
I don’t like union thugs who use government to steal from their fellow citizens.

If you want to buy a car made in the USA with non-union labor and 80% US made content, that would be a Toyota Camry. Many Toyota models have higher US material/part content than any of the "Big 3" and use US non-union labor to assemble.

Hard to believe we ended up here, but here we are.

50 posted on 07/12/2011 8:34:37 AM PDT by IamConservative (Do peeps that drive Smart Cars on freeways have a death wish? If not, they better have spare undies.)
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