Skip to comments.Does The US Government Want To Prevent You From Leaving? Trapped in your country, unable to leave
Posted on 07/11/2011 7:53:48 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
Can you imagine being trapped inside your home country, unable to leave? It may be closer to a reality than you realize. Ill tell you a quick story to explain.
This weekend I rented a car in Bulgaria with the aim of driving through Serbia, Kosovo, Macedonia, and eventually into Greece. Now, Im no virgin to land border crossings in the developing world and understand the corruption and incompetence that typifies customs checkpoints. But this weekends experience was much more.
With documents in hand, I drove to my first border crossing in Strezimirovci, Bulgaria. After clearing customs on the Bulgarian side, the Serbian officers decided that they would not allow me to enter with the normal papers, and instead required that I obtain another customs form to proceed.
Unfortunately, they had no such customs form at their station, so they turned me around and sent me to another border check point in Kalotina, over an hour away.
The road from Strezimirovci to Kalotina skirts the Serbian border for a large part of the drive quite literally, on one side of the road is Serbia, and on the other is Bulgaria. Its all part of the same landscape with no discernable difference these are just invisible lines guarded by gun-toting monkeys.
When I arrived to Kalotina, I found the office where I was supposed to obtain the new document just a simple, roadside concession stand. The agent was the shops proprietor, a chain-smoking Serbian woman with rather mannish features.
Once I paid the appropriate fee, she spent the next 10 minutes hacking at her keyboard to produce an official looking Cyrillic document with lots of stamps and seals.
While I was waiting for her to finish, four different customers came into the shop to stock up on snacks and drinks. All they wanted was a cold one for the road, but they eventually got tired of waiting and left.
These four customers represented potential transactions that could have contributed something to the economy. Instead, though, they were preempted by an unnecessary bureaucracy that adds absolutely no value whatsoever.
As expected, the Serbian customs agent barely glanced at the form when I crossed the border this time. Finally on Serbian soil, I pointed my car towards Pristina.
Now, Serbia still pretends like Kosovo is part of its sovereign territory, and Serbian police are under strict instructions to make the immigration checkpoint on the Kosovo border as painful as possible.
The vehicle line at the checkpoint was backed up so much that it took several hours to pass. All along the way, there was not a single bathroom, vending machine, fuel station, or even street light. Its obvious that they want to incovenience travelers to the point that people will think twice before visiting Kosovo again.
When it was finally my turn, I drove up to the policeman and handed him all of my papers. He slowly went through every single detail, looking for any technicality he could find to prevent me from crossing.
The rest the station was staffed with 10 other agents. All brandished automatic weapons slung over their backs, yet each stood around doing absolutely nothing. One person was working, and the other ten were smoking, eating, drinking, and shooting the breeze.
Frankly, I pity all of these border agents whose only function is to deny, obstruct, or otherwise frustrate the forward progress of other human beings. These people will go their entire careers contributing nothing of value to the world, and destroying what others are trying to create. Its truly a pitiful existence.
This weekends affair was a clear example of what happens when a government imposes mind-numbing bureacracy to prevent freedom of movement. And if you think it cant happen where you live, think again.
In the US, the government now requires all citizens to have a passport in order to pass the border, even when driving into Mexico or Canada. Obtaining a passport, however, is neither free nor guaranteed. You must apply, pay an ever-increasing fee, and wait for weeks to be approved and receive it.
Recently, the State Department quietly proposed a new biographical questionnaire in lieu of the traditional passport application. The new form requires you to provide things like:
- names, birth places, and birth dates of your extended family members
- your mothers place of employment at the time of your birth
- whether or not your mother received pre-natal or post natal care
- the address of your mothers physician and dates of appointments
- the address of every place you have ever lived in your entire life
- the name and address of every school you have ever attended
Most people would find it impossible to provide such information, yet the form requires that the responses are true and correct under penalty of imprisonment.
Naturally, the privacy statement on the application also acknowledges that the responses can be shared with other departments in the government, including Homeland Security.
If this proposal passes, then US citizens will have a nearly insurmountable hurdle to obtain a passport and be able to leave the country at will. Even if it doesnt pass, its a clear demonstration of what the people who run the country are thinking.
Have you reached your breaking point yet, comrades?
Comrades, the High Commissars do not want the filthy evil rich to flee the USSA.
Crossing the Ohio River might be like that in a decade or two.
Just musing openly, don’t take this seriously... if it ever comes to this...
How about requiring a PASSPORT from those who want to relocate from a liberal to a conservative state?
And this case ...
Veteran accused of passport fraud freed days ahead of trial
By Greg Botelho
A Navy veteran was freed from a federal detention center Friday, giving him four days of freedom before the start of his trial for allegedly lying on his passport application.
Former Petty Officer 2nd Class Elisha Leo Dawkins has been behind bars since April, having been detained nine days after returning from a stint in Cuba working as a military photographer.
He could get 10 years in prison if convicted of lying five years ago on a passport application, as federal prosecutors contend. But his attorney, Clark Mervis, has told CNN that his client’s actions were understandable and innocent.
A hearing was held in a federal court Friday, at which the government agreed to reduce Dawkins’ bond to effectively nothing and paved the way for his release, said Annette Castillo of the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Miami.
The government went along with a bond reduction after the Department of Homeland Security lifted an immigration detainer against Dawkins, Castillo explained by e-mail.
The grand jury indictment claims that Dawkins “did knowingly and willfully make a false statement” on an April 2006 passport application completed in Miami-Dade County. Specifically, Dawkins said that he had never before requested a U.S. passport, “when in truth ... and as the defendant ... knew, he had previously applied,” according to the indictment.
“Flash” Gordon Schwartz, a former Navy pilot, said that his friend Dawkins started filling out a passport application in 2004 but didn’t finish it. When he filled out another application two years later, Dawkins checked “no” next to the question about whether he’d completed an application previously — assuming that was the right answer, since his previous attempt wasn’t complete.
He got the passport. But five years later, in March, a warrant was issued for Dawkins’ arrest — at the same time he was at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, working as a military photographer, according to Schwartz. He returned to the United States on April 10, and was detained nine days later, said Dianne Rinehardt, a veteran who met him while both were in nursing school.
Schwartz, who is a Jacksonville accountant and also has Dawkins’ power of attorney, said Friday that his friend is happy to be free and is looking forward to his day in court.
“You have a dedicated young man, who is dedicated to the United States,” said Schwartz, noting he talked with his friend after his release. “He just wants to clear his name.”
Dawkins’ determination is so firm, according to his friend who is also his power of attorney, that he turned down an offer from the U.S. Attorney’s office to drop the charges once he completed a supervised pretrial diversion program.
Schwartz said that he plans to testify on his friend’s behalf as a character witness, as will some of Dawkins’ former “direct supervisors in the military.”
In recent weeks, Dawkins’ case has gained national attention with friends, politicians, past colleagues and strangers among the hundreds supporting a man who joined the U.S. Army upon graduating from high school. He served a tour in Iraq, and then joined the Navy in part so he could attend nursing school and re-enlist, Schwartz said.
A document, provided to CNN by Schwartz as authorized by U.S. Navy Vice Adm. M.E. Ferguson III, indicates that Dawkins had secret clearance while at Guantanamo. In an evaluation report, one superior lauds Dawkins as “a team player ... with a strong work ethic and desire to learn” and recommends him for promotion.
>Comrades, the High Commissars do not want the filthy evil rich to flee the USSA.
And yet, the answers to those questions will be fairly easily obtained via PIs by the rich if they desired to get the information to fill it out.
Try renouncing your U.S. citizenship if you should so desire.
You end up with a bill from the IRS for the next decade of taxes on income that you would have made in their opinion, had you not done so.
How about having our President fill out the new State Department form?
Considering “his previous attempt wasnt complete” then wouldn’t that indicate that he hadn’t actually applied?
IE If I had an application to convert my PS-90 to a short-barreled rifle, but decided against it after reading all the instructions (and fingerprinting required) but never sent it in (that is actually applying) then could that be used against me?
In short this sounds like it could be a good case for 18USC242 (deprivation of rights under color of law)... some government agency being the actor purporting to deprive him of his rights (as I understand that is a felony; ergo his future voting and firearms possessions are at stake).
Oh and it’s even worse than you think. I had a friend who owed about $300 in back taxes and he couldn’t get a passport. I’ve known several people to send in for passports to have them delayed or rejected for the silliest of reasons. A couple applications were even “lost.”
The American police state is in full swing. And if you think in about 5-10 years it will be easy to leave ... think again.
I used to be able to go into Canada or Mexico and back with no more than a driver’s license.
Dark days ahead, my friends. Very dark days.
I once got drunk with the French Border guards and gave them a bottle of Jack Daniels that I was carrying for such emergencies so that me and 4 other Army personnel and 2 young, French Army drivers could clear the border.
It recently occurred to me that bringing the bottle of Jack across borders in the mid 1980s could have been violating some law, is that likely?
I remember back in 1983, soon after KAL-007 was shot down by the Soviet Union, I asked this question just for “sh@#$ & giggles.” I just started 11th grade. I asked, “What if, one day, the US became the USSR and the USSR became the US?” I added, “what if we ever became the Evil Empire?” Looks like my little thought experiment might give me an answers soon if this keeps up. With the TSA and now this, I think the terrorists have won. B-(
It’s been like this for us here in Michigan for a generation or three.
But now that MI is totally a red state for now at the state level the rats are powerless, and many things are looking better.
Like a balanced budget, on time for the time in 4 decades, little stuff like that.
Well, then there would be no conservative states, if you mean “Constitutional” states.
Forget the passport, QUARRANTINE anyone wanting to leave a blue state for a red state.
LOL!!! Not till I get out of here, PLEASE!!!
But I know exactly what you mean.
This is the same government that can’t stop illiterate Mexicans from crossing over by the hundreds of thousands every year. If it ever gets so bad you need to flee the country, you’ll find a way to get out. Just make sure the financial move is staged properly and you have a trustworthy agent on the other side to empty the receiving accounts immediately after transfer.