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Woman accused of beating in-laws' dog to death with baseball bat
Orlando Sentinel ^ | July 11, 2011 | Gary Taylor

Posted on 07/12/2011 8:21:48 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement

A Seminole County woman is accused of breaking into a locked bedroom at her in-laws' home, stealing the family's 14-year-old pet dog Ginger, and then beating the dog to death with a baseball bat.

Evita Williams, 24, faces charges of burglary, grand theft and animal cruelty.

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1 posted on 07/12/2011 8:21:52 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

If i was this woman accused of this. I would be calling the Casey Anthony Jury and telling them George Anthony did this and those dumb jurors would say not guilty.


2 posted on 07/12/2011 8:23:21 AM PDT by BlueSky194
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To: ConservativeStatement

If i was this woman accused of this. I would be calling the Casey Anthony Jury and telling them George Anthony did this and those dumb jurors would say not guilty.


3 posted on 07/12/2011 8:23:29 AM PDT by BlueSky194
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To: ConservativeStatement

If i was this woman accused of this. I would be calling the Casey Anthony Jury and telling them George Anthony did this and those dumb jurors would say not guilty.


4 posted on 07/12/2011 8:23:29 AM PDT by BlueSky194
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To: BlueSky194

This is an evil woman. Someone should beat her with a bat to death.


5 posted on 07/12/2011 8:25:46 AM PDT by BlueSky194
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To: BlueSky194

This is an evil woman. Someone should beat her with a bat to death.


6 posted on 07/12/2011 8:25:58 AM PDT by BlueSky194
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To: ConservativeStatement

My MIL lives with us now. She has a yappy little pain in the backside named Ginger.

But I don’t own a baseball bat.


7 posted on 07/12/2011 8:26:36 AM PDT by Grunthor (Today, let me say, do or think nothing that Jesus would not do, think or say.)
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To: ConservativeStatement
Animal Cruelty? I guess the first blow did not kill the dog, huh? Do freepers think that animals have rights now?
8 posted on 07/12/2011 8:33:21 AM PDT by Unassuaged (I have shocking data relevant to the conversation!)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Well, Evita...you can be REALLY glad I don’t live near you...about as glad as I am, or I just might be in jail. ;-)


9 posted on 07/12/2011 8:35:34 AM PDT by NordP (Common Sense ConservaTEAves - Love of Country, Less Govt, Stop Spending, No Govt Run Health Care!!!)
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To: BlueSky194

i’d volunteer with said baseball bat and let her know what it feels like.


10 posted on 07/12/2011 8:36:41 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: Unassuaged

apparently,when they say people ought to get the same treatment,when something like this comes up. Animals have the right to be eaten,hunted and used for fur and maybe some work.


11 posted on 07/12/2011 8:44:29 AM PDT by coalman (survived carter ,disco and clinton,just holding on till 2012)
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To: coalman

I would easily value the life of a pet dog or cat over the life of both of these people involved.

No contest.

Today it is a dog with a baseball bat. Tomorrow they take the same baseball bat to an elderly person they have a disagreement with.

I have no problem with having scum like that taken out of society permanently.

I have a concept of default respect. All human beings get default respect. Save from the floodwaters? Humans first, dogs next. But once I know something about them, (like the fact that they apparently enjoy beating other people’s pets to death with a baseball bat) then they have lost that respect.


12 posted on 07/12/2011 8:56:45 AM PDT by rlmorel ("When marching down the same road, one does not need marching orders to reach the same destination.")
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To: ConservativeStatement
I consider myself a rough and tumble kind guy,but I could never beat an old dog to death with a ball bat. She is mental and needs shock treatment to the temples 3 times a day.
13 posted on 07/12/2011 8:58:21 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (Please do not read this tagline.)
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To: BlueSky194
“She told the witness she did it because the dog had bitten her 4-year-old son.”

A few years back my daughter was at the neighbors house with a bunch of other kids. Unbeknownst to me, they were hosting a friends dog who apparently wasn't very good around kids. Several kids came screaming across the street to my house (I worked from home at the time) and told me this visiting dog had bitten my 11 y/o daughter. By the time I got there this dog was barking at 3 terrorized kids (not mine) while my daughter's foot was bleeding all over the stairs. Not sure what kind of dog it was, maybe 40-50 lbs with a very $hitty attitude. He started barking and snarling at me when I stepped in front on him. I gave him a chance to retreat. He didn't. I picked his sorry a$$ up by the back of the neck and threw him out the back door. I had to take my daughter to the ER where she go several stitches. That gave me a chance to cool down, otherwise, that is a dead dog.

All of which is to say, despite my love of dogs (I have a fantastic Cattle dog), when a dog bites a kid, that is a dog in serious danger. Don't agree with what this lady did, but I am familiar with the urge to kill a dog. Yes, she probably has some jail time coming, but beating ‘her with a bat to death’ strikes me as, to use your word, ‘evil’.

14 posted on 07/12/2011 9:04:49 AM PDT by mad puppy (Obama Care is a 'Giffen Good'.)
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To: 4yearlurker
If I caught someone doing that to my Dog, I would not hesitate immediately cleansing the Gene Pool.
15 posted on 07/12/2011 9:05:36 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Would you rather live in Obamaville or Palintown?)
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To: Unassuaged
I agree with you if the dog was dispatched with the frist blow it was not cruel.

There are better ways to kill a unwanted animal but a good whack in the head can kill on the frist blow.

16 posted on 07/12/2011 9:07:14 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: Kickass Conservative

Seems to me that there are lots of freepers willing to go to prison over a dog.


17 posted on 07/12/2011 9:12:28 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: Unassuaged

How do you feel about destroying other people’s property?


18 posted on 07/12/2011 9:13:58 AM PDT by DManA
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To: AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; Shannon; SandRat; arbooz; potlatch; ...
WOOOF!

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19 posted on 07/12/2011 9:15:34 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: rlmorel

yeah,I remember back when the animal rights people started saying people who are cruel to animals are dangerous killers! geesh! give me a break. Each crime should be judged on what actually happens,,not some goofy idea of what could,maybe,possibly happen-you should at least give first-time offenders a little break,just bash em till they are a vegetable but not death for a dog! wow!!! thats scarier than this story. -value the life of a pet dog or cat over the life of these people-thats insane. just plain old common animal rights insanity.your not alone though,that kind of thinking is spreading through society,just like all the other crap we put up with.


20 posted on 07/12/2011 9:15:50 AM PDT by coalman (survived carter ,disco and clinton,just holding on till 2012)
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To: riverrunner
Oh no, not at all.

When the Perp tried to take a swing at me when I told them to stop, I would simply be defending myself. I would think anyone who would pickup a bat and beat a poor defenseless dog to death would have no problem attacking another person who tried to stop them.

Isn't it curious that most Serial Killers started out torturing and killing helpless animals before they moved up the food chain?

Would you enjoy watching people beat your Dog to death? I certainly wouldn't.

Don't be pissed off at me for making that comment. It is just the way the conversation would lead after your initial comment regarding my post.

Have a wonderful day.

21 posted on 07/12/2011 9:20:11 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Would you rather live in Obamaville or Palintown?)
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To: Unassuaged

Animals have no rights.

People have responsibilities, the humane treatment of animals among them.


22 posted on 07/12/2011 9:22:10 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: Unassuaged

Animals should not be beaten to death. It’s one thing to kill an attacking dog, it’s another thing to beat an old dog to death that was not a threat to her child at that time.

If this trailer park trash can beat an old dog to death, imagine what she can do to a child who pisses her off?


23 posted on 07/12/2011 9:22:27 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: coalman

Try and keep the discussion civil, if you can. I did not insult you personally, I would appreciate it if you did the same.

Do you value the life of every human being over every animal?


24 posted on 07/12/2011 9:22:41 AM PDT by rlmorel ("When marching down the same road, one does not need marching orders to reach the same destination.")
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

Well, it isn’t like this was an act of passion. It was very premeditated. I would obviously make an appropriate accomodation for someone whose child is being attacked by a dog, and they grab a bat, run out of the house and whack a dog repeatedly until dead.

That I can understand.

THIS is a very different thing.


25 posted on 07/12/2011 9:28:57 AM PDT by rlmorel ("When marching down the same road, one does not need marching orders to reach the same destination.")
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To: Unassuaged

Animal Cruelty? I guess the first blow did not kill the dog, huh? Do freepers think that animals have rights now?

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Is there a law against what Evita did to the dog? Yes or No?

Whether the dog has rights or not is an incredibly transparent attempt on your part to change the subject so you can rant your boilerplate anti animal rights rant. The question of animal rights in this context is simply non sequitor. You fool no one, but I notice you picked up a couple of like minded folks along the way. Congrats.

You don’t like animal cruelty laws? Get the law changed. As it stands, the question of animal rights is not even on the table. She violated the law.

Deal with it.


26 posted on 07/12/2011 9:32:38 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Kickass Conservative

I agreee with you 100% if the dog beater started to come after the dogs owner. Then self defense would apply. Your frist post did not state that.


27 posted on 07/12/2011 9:35:34 AM PDT by riverrunner
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To: BlueSky194

Read the whole story. This is sick from a dozen different angles. Her husband was arrested too.


28 posted on 07/12/2011 9:37:36 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (We are not governed. We are occupied.)
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To: Unassuaged

I think it is more a measure of the person. Somebody who takes an innocent animal, and torments and kills it purposefully, for no reason, has a neurological defect. The act is symptomatic of a greater disorder, which will carry over into every other aspect of their life. They will hurt others for no reason, and moreover, they may be uncontrollably driven to hurt others for no reason - and that will extend to humans.

Left alone, it will get worse. Malignant narcissism is intolerable when the person is young enough to purposefully hide it as best they can. As they get older, their brain deteriorates, they lose the ability and desire to hide it, and they become a real piece of work.

Some people are just focused on the behavior of others, and what subtle signs they give out mean in the context of the larger picture. When I was a teenager, I knew a guy who could divine an amazing amount of information about a person, their childhood, their family life, their job, what the decor of their house would consist of - he even knew if people left their shoes at their front door and changed out into slippers when they got home. And he could do it off of just ten minutes of casual conversation. One time, he did it to some girl, and I thought he was about to get totally shot down. There was no way he could have been right about all of the ultra fine details he predicted. I waited for the shoot-down, only to see her completely shocked. He even knew she had two to four stacks of magazines on a coffee table in her living room, each arranged in date order.

If you have the gift, even in a small amount, the world and the people in it are a rich tapestry, with meaningful details everywhere. Human behavior can be roughly predictable. But it has nothing to do with knowing how you would handle a situation, and applying that to others. It has everything to do with knowing how other can be different, and that is revealed in how they act differently.

Other people don’t have the gift, to an astonishing degree. I knew another guy who couldn’t divine the most blatant emotion on the face of someone opposite him, or predict how the majority of his behavior would affect others. Either he didn’t look at it, or he had no ability to realize it’s signifigance. Because of it, the guy had *no* ability to judge character or trustworthiness.

People on the animal cruelty threads know that purposeless animal cruelty is a sign, and those who engage in it are best kept away from the good people.

Furthermore, they have experiences with such people, know their personalities, and know what they deserve. Whether this chick had killed this dog or not, she deserves something awful, just because of who she is, what she has undoubtedly done to others in the past, and what she will undoubtedly do to others in the future.

The world is good and bad, and people do tell you who they are and where they stand, if you can learn to listen to what matters.


29 posted on 07/12/2011 9:40:00 AM PDT by AnonymousConservative (That disorder is what)
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To: dmz; Unassuaged

Read the whole story. This is Fatal Attraction type stuff.


30 posted on 07/12/2011 9:41:28 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (We are not governed. We are occupied.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Animals have the “right” not to have vicious, cruel sh*t visited upon them. I’m amazed at the attitudes some have, including a few in this forum, have about this subject.


31 posted on 07/12/2011 9:41:47 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A poster on a White House wall on 20 Jan 2013: "Malice doesn't live here anymore")
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To: coalman

value the life of a pet dog or cat over the life of these people
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I can easily cop to the charge of valuing the life of this dog over the lives of the 2 scumbags who broke into a home, stole stuff, and then dispatched the family pet with a baseball bat. A no brainer actually. Why would I give a flying rat’s a$$ about these 2, who steal from family and kill their pets? And frankly, why do you care about them?

That was a rhetorical question. I know why. You think this is about granting animal’s rights, which it isn’t. It’s about prosecuting someone who has broken an existing law.


32 posted on 07/12/2011 9:45:36 AM PDT by dmz
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To: ConservativeStatement

If folks will read the whole article and not go off half cocked ...on both sides.

They will realize this is a sordid affair and that this couple does deserve the B&E charge and maybe the cruelty....

I do not think killing animals with a blunt blow if applied right is cruelty...it is a favored means of killing cattle at slaughterhouses with pneumatic hammer in the draw...I have seen this done hundreds of times

And calls to beat folks to death for killing animals are just plain nuts.

But clearly...this was wrong what this couple diand I’m sure they will pay a consequence.

And yes...label me one of those folks who thinks laws about animals infringe on property rights and are over the top...frequently.


33 posted on 07/12/2011 9:47:34 AM PDT by wardaddy (Palin or Bachman..either with Marco....I'm often on DroidX..in bed late...hence my spelling..sorry)
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To: dmz
It is interesting to see some of the responses from people who side with the woman taking the baseball bat to the animal.

From the article:
"...On Saturday, Daniel Williams made a call to his son, monitored by deputies, to inquire about the dog's location. Richard Williams was belligerent and argumentative and told his father: "she told you what she was going to do," and "all Evita wants is money and that's it." Deputies arrested both Evita and Richard Williams Saturday evening. Richard Williams is accused of stealing electronics that belonged to his parents and pawning them, Cannaday said..."

Nice.

Most of us can agree that a person in a fit of anger and fear for the safety of their child might grab a bat and repeatedly hit an animal with a club to disable or kill it, and could be excused for it.

What some of us have an issue with are people who threaten harm, break into someone's home, use hand tools to deliberately remove a lock, lead a trusting pet out of a house and beat it to deathe with a baseball bat. Because "all she wants is money".

This from a husband and wife team who apparently "want money" enough to STEAL belongings from their own family members for pawn money, and attempt to EXTORT money from them by threatening them.

I have always thought you can tell a lot about people by who they ally with. But to be charitable, I will take the stance they simply didn't read the article. That happens a lot around here.

34 posted on 07/12/2011 9:48:59 AM PDT by rlmorel ("When marching down the same road, one does not need marching orders to reach the same destination.")
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To: ConservativeStatement

If you turn his or her head upside down, they have the same shaped heads.
35 posted on 07/12/2011 9:49:18 AM PDT by Bon mots ("When seconds count, the police are just minutes away...")
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To: Bon mots

Okay, now that is creeping me out.


36 posted on 07/12/2011 9:52:11 AM PDT by rlmorel ("When marching down the same road, one does not need marching orders to reach the same destination.")
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To: mad puppy

I’m not quite so quick to believe her story.


37 posted on 07/12/2011 10:01:48 AM PDT by dmz
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To: rlmorel

“I have a concept of default respect. All human beings get default respect. Save from the floodwaters? Humans first, dogs next. But once I know something about them, (like the fact that they apparently enjoy beating other people’s pets to death with a baseball bat) then they have lost that respect.”

I have a problem with laws that seem to treat animals like any other piece of property. Life has a different “property” than non-living things. Everyone involved, even an observer, is “damaged” when an animal is mistreated, because the damage is to the respect for life itself. These damages have much greater consequence than those stemming from a car door getting kicked in, for example.


38 posted on 07/12/2011 10:04:08 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: mad puppy

I am a huge dog lover, have 3 myself. My brother adopted a German Shepard, soon afterwards he was deployed to Afghanistan so I took her. She was great at first, but I still did not totally trust her, didn’t know her backround etc so I was extra watchful of her, we built her a kennel so she would not have access to the kids running around, I had my 3 boys and half of the neighborhood over all the time. After a while she became too protective and even though she was in a kennel, all it would take would be one accident, I could not deal with that. I wrote my brother and said she had to go, I could not take a chance with my kids or the others.....so she went.

That being said, this woman went to extreme measures to kill that dog. It was not in the heat of the moment. She had to break in and freaking take down a door!!!! I also don’t really believe their story. At the end it was all about money.


39 posted on 07/12/2011 10:07:11 AM PDT by panthermom (Pray for my son in Aghanistan and all the troops!)
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To: dmz

Well, regardless of whether I believe or disbelieve her, it is clear she did not do this out of concern for the safety and well being of her child that was allegedly bitten.

“All she wants is money...” was apparently a motive. Money for what? Cigarettes? Drugs? Alcohol? Large screen TV?

I would not trust her any further than the 4x6 prison cell they throw her into. And I would grab the dog by the scruff of its neck to pull it out of floodwater before I would think of extending her or her husband a hand, scum sucking low-life parasites they appear to be.


40 posted on 07/12/2011 10:09:20 AM PDT by rlmorel ("When marching down the same road, one does not need marching orders to reach the same destination.")
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To: ConservativeStatement
Dang, I thought it said she beat the in-laws and their dog to dearth.
41 posted on 07/12/2011 10:11:10 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: panthermom

Exactly. If it was done in the moment, nobody would say a word. When you look at the stated facts in the story, it is a very different picture. I would have no problem taking a bat to an animal if it had my child or spouse by the leg.

I wouldn’t like it, but darn right I would willingly do it.

I am not even convinced the animal bit her child.


42 posted on 07/12/2011 10:12:00 AM PDT by rlmorel ("When marching down the same road, one does not need marching orders to reach the same destination.")
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To: rlmorel

Agreed. I’ll run the risk of getting bitten by the dog I;m saving from the flood over a couple of methheads.


43 posted on 07/12/2011 10:12:05 AM PDT by dmz
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To: rlmorel

Neither am I. They are not exactly credible, they’re skells.


44 posted on 07/12/2011 10:14:39 AM PDT by panthermom (Pray for my son in Aghanistan and all the troops!)
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To: panthermom

German Shepards tend to go a little extreme. Being very protective, as is my Cattle Dog, can be a problem.

As for the gal in the story, my assumption is that she is telling the truth. To be fair, given the rest of the story, she is probably a lying sack of dog-doo regarding the bitten 4 year old. Agree with you...this is about money and killing the dog was probably meant more as a threat to the in-laws. She goes away for a long time either way.


45 posted on 07/12/2011 10:16:02 AM PDT by mad puppy (Obama Care is a 'Giffen Good'.)
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To: dmz

“Is there a law against what Evita did to the dog? Yes or No?

Whether the dog has rights or not is an incredibly transparent attempt on your part to change the subject so you can rant your boilerplate anti animal rights rant. The question of animal rights in this context is simply non sequitor. “

Isn’t that the truth? It never ceases to amaze me the number of people on this board who truly hate animals. And now they’re saying it’s ok to beat a dog to death if it bites a child?? Seriously?? There are laws protecting both animals and children - and thank God for them. But I shake my head in amazement that anyone actually gives credence to this evil creature’s story that this poor sick 14 year old Retriever actually bit her child. If that had been the case I doubt seriously she would have said nothing at the time... Too many here wanting to excuse and validate her actions because they reflect their own views of animals. Frightening.


46 posted on 07/12/2011 10:31:49 AM PDT by JLLH
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To: ScottinVA

Sad, isn’t it?


47 posted on 07/12/2011 10:33:49 AM PDT by JLLH
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To: The Antiyuppie

“I have a problem with laws that seem to treat animals like any other piece of property. Life has a different “property” than non-living things”

Agreed. Our creator doesn’t consider them “just property” either. He values the life He created — all of it, as much as some here would love to believe otherwise.


48 posted on 07/12/2011 10:36:35 AM PDT by JLLH
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To: rlmorel

I am very civil,Who said they would use a baseball bat as retribution for animal abuse? I value the life of the most sick,pitiful,pathetic human life over all animals!


49 posted on 07/12/2011 10:51:45 AM PDT by coalman (survived carter ,disco and clinton,just holding on till 2012)
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To: coalman

Calling me insane is not civil.

But that aside, let me restate the question more specifically, since yes, I too would value a sick, pitiful and pathetic human over that of an animal, keeping in mind that before we agree on anything we might have ask each other “How do you define sick, pitiful and pathetic”?

Would you value the life of Adolph Hitler over a sheepdog that works your field for you and would give its life in a direct attack on someone who threatens you?

I use Adolph Hitler as a specific example to make my point.


50 posted on 07/12/2011 11:31:44 AM PDT by rlmorel ("When marching down the same road, one does not need marching orders to reach the same destination.")
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