Posted on 07/12/2011 8:21:48 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
A Seminole County woman is accused of breaking into a locked bedroom at her in-laws' home, stealing the family's 14-year-old pet dog Ginger, and then beating the dog to death with a baseball bat.
Evita Williams, 24, faces charges of burglary, grand theft and animal cruelty.
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Exactly. If it was done in the moment, nobody would say a word. When you look at the stated facts in the story, it is a very different picture. I would have no problem taking a bat to an animal if it had my child or spouse by the leg.
I wouldn’t like it, but darn right I would willingly do it.
I am not even convinced the animal bit her child.
Agreed. I’ll run the risk of getting bitten by the dog I;m saving from the flood over a couple of methheads.
Neither am I. They are not exactly credible, they’re skells.
German Shepards tend to go a little extreme. Being very protective, as is my Cattle Dog, can be a problem.
As for the gal in the story, my assumption is that she is telling the truth. To be fair, given the rest of the story, she is probably a lying sack of dog-doo regarding the bitten 4 year old. Agree with you...this is about money and killing the dog was probably meant more as a threat to the in-laws. She goes away for a long time either way.
“Is there a law against what Evita did to the dog? Yes or No?
Whether the dog has rights or not is an incredibly transparent attempt on your part to change the subject so you can rant your boilerplate anti animal rights rant. The question of animal rights in this context is simply non sequitor. “
Isn’t that the truth? It never ceases to amaze me the number of people on this board who truly hate animals. And now they’re saying it’s ok to beat a dog to death if it bites a child?? Seriously?? There are laws protecting both animals and children - and thank God for them. But I shake my head in amazement that anyone actually gives credence to this evil creature’s story that this poor sick 14 year old Retriever actually bit her child. If that had been the case I doubt seriously she would have said nothing at the time... Too many here wanting to excuse and validate her actions because they reflect their own views of animals. Frightening.
Sad, isn’t it?
“I have a problem with laws that seem to treat animals like any other piece of property. Life has a different “property” than non-living things”
Agreed. Our creator doesn’t consider them “just property” either. He values the life He created — all of it, as much as some here would love to believe otherwise.
I am very civil,Who said they would use a baseball bat as retribution for animal abuse? I value the life of the most sick,pitiful,pathetic human life over all animals!
Calling me insane is not civil.
But that aside, let me restate the question more specifically, since yes, I too would value a sick, pitiful and pathetic human over that of an animal, keeping in mind that before we agree on anything we might have ask each other “How do you define sick, pitiful and pathetic”?
Would you value the life of Adolph Hitler over a sheepdog that works your field for you and would give its life in a direct attack on someone who threatens you?
I use Adolph Hitler as a specific example to make my point.
There's no indication the dog ever bit anyone. When the psychopath was caught in the act, she made an excuse to the witness.
It's disgusting that anyone would defend this psychopath bludgeoning a dog as part of her extortion scheme. Even if she had done it for some made up reason, it's still sick.
Exactly. This was premeditated down to creeping into someone else’s house days later, using tools to dismantle security fixtures and putting them back (imperfectly) afterwards. It sounds to me like classic extortion.
Horrific. This was a Golden Retriver/Labrador mix. Probably had a couple of years left to live, given good care. I can’t imagine the state of relations with the MIL. I don’t think she will ever be reconciled with the DIL, or her son. I wouldn’t. Of course none of my DILs, or SILs would dream of doing such a thing.
No, I don’t think animals have rights. The owners tho, had rights, and the person who killed their dog certainly didn’t have the right to kill their dog. She’s in deep doo doo.
In fact as a Christian, yes I do (and I know you didn't ask me, but I feel compelled to speak up).
I sure don’t.
I volunteer for a German Shepherd rescue and there are certain ones that were not properly socialized. While they have improved in their behavior through training, we still designate them for adoption for certain situations, such as experienced owners only, no children, no other dogs or cats, etc.
For the most part once the dogs are adopted they have done well since the adopters are aware of the situation.
I understand...do you have any thoughts on my question to the other Freeper at post #50?
Just curious, do you have an opinion on the scenario presented in post #50?
It’s always tough when you toss out Adolph Hitler, he really was an evil, evil person, and being human, of course, I assume he’s probably not going to be in Heaven. Having said that, if I understand my faith correctly even he could have been saved if he honestly seeked redemption, and went thru the process. So, while it would take a great deal of prayer on my part, I would have to say that his soul would indeed have more value than the value of even my own beloved dog. Not a very satisfying answer, but I think a correct one.
I am always reminded of Paul who was a pretty bad guy before he “saw the light” on the Road to Damascus and became an Apostle of Jesus. It reminds me that anyone can be saved by Jesus if they are willing.
And yes, I am an animal lover.
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