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Angry John Boehner rallies GOP troops on debt limit
Politico ^ | July12 ,2011 | JOHN BRESNAHAN & JAKE SHERMAN & JONATHAN ALLEN |

Posted on 07/12/2011 9:25:29 AM PDT by Hojczyk

Speaker John Boehner told a closed gathering of House Republicans on Tuesday morning that he was “pissed” over being unable to reach a “grand bargain” with President Barack Obama to make sweeping entitlement changes in return for an overhaul of the U.S. tax code.

But Boehner also accused Obama of failing to lead on the impending crisis over boosting the $14.3 trillion debt limit, according to people inside the GOP meeting.

But while Boehner was trying to rally his Republican troops Tuesday morning, he did warn them that they will quickly lose leverage in the debate as the country grows closer to the Aug. 2 debt default deadline and Wall Street and business leaders pressure them to cut a deal.

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, who opposed Boehner’s efforts to cut a “grand slam” deal with Obama, was just as blunt as the speaker. Cantor told rank-and-file Republicans that unless Democrats drop their insistence on tax increases as part of an agreement to raise the debt ceiling, there may be no compromise possible with Obama and Democratic congressional leaders.

“If the Democrats continue to insist on tax increases, there is no viable path forward,” Cantor warned, according to sources.

The overwhelming sentiment from House Republicans, according to those present in the room, was that even $2 trillion in cuts over 10 years — roughly what is being discussed at the White House meetings — isn’t sufficient. Republicans want even more cuts, and they want them immediately. Moderate Rep. Cliff Stearns of Florida, a 22-year veteran of the House, stood up and said $2.5 trillion wasn’t enough for a deal.

Florida Rep. Allen West emerged from the meeting to say that he didn’t want “fairy dust spending cuts” that are projected over the next decade.

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1 posted on 07/12/2011 9:25:33 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

>> Florida Rep. Allen West emerged from the meeting to say that he didn’t want “fairy dust spending cuts” that are projected over the next decade.

Damn straight, Mr. West!

DEEP CUTS — BRUTAL CUTS — NOW!!! Not in ten years. NOW!!!


2 posted on 07/12/2011 9:28:21 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Hojczyk

I’m not sure I see Boehner chickening out here. It “seems” at this moment that he is holding the line. (Of course, he knows he has to).

Good quote from Cantor also. There is, at this time, no path forward, b/c we are not doing “revenue increases”. Period.

Go GOP.


3 posted on 07/12/2011 9:31:28 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Nervous Tick

Quit going to the WH John. You are a co-equal branch of government.


4 posted on 07/12/2011 9:32:12 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Hojczyk

Boehner simply doesn’t have the cojones for the job. He is NOT a leader, and should resign so someone with resolve can take over. Bob


5 posted on 07/12/2011 9:32:38 AM PDT by alstewartfan ("One day he just washed up on the shores of his regrets. May his soul rest in peace." Al Stewart)
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To: Nervous Tick

The Federal Bureaucracy must be decimated and Obamacare wiped out for it to be a good deal.


6 posted on 07/12/2011 9:34:04 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: Hojczyk

Pass a deal that averts a crisis, and then dare Obama to veto it.


7 posted on 07/12/2011 9:34:41 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: Hojczyk

Boehner should call the House into session at the time appointed for the fake White House meetings, pass a stiff bunch of immediate deficit reduction stuff and let the Senate and/or Zer0 destroy it.


8 posted on 07/12/2011 9:35:32 AM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: shalom aleichem

No kidding. You’d think as much as ZerØ likes getting out of the house, he could at least hope in the limo and drive down the street and meet at the Capitol.


9 posted on 07/12/2011 9:36:37 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Hojczyk

Keep up the calls/emails.


10 posted on 07/12/2011 9:37:00 AM PDT by FrdmLvr
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To: Hojczyk

Keep up the calls/emails.


11 posted on 07/12/2011 9:37:35 AM PDT by FrdmLvr
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To: Thane_Banquo

You’re assuming the senate would pass for O to veto.


12 posted on 07/12/2011 9:38:16 AM PDT by edcoil (The will to win is important, but the will to prepare is vital. -- Joe Paterno)
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To: screaminsunshine

Removing ObamaCare would go a long way down the road to fiscal sanity.


13 posted on 07/12/2011 9:39:28 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: Nervous Tick

PLEASE LTC West run for the Presidency! Boehner is a sell out.


14 posted on 07/12/2011 9:39:42 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: alstewartfan

What are you talking about?

Did you bother to read what the article said?


15 posted on 07/12/2011 9:40:00 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Nervous Tick

This train wreck has been a long time coming and everyone concerned diddle daddled up to this very grave situation.

We no longer have the time or the luxury of accepting the same kind of grudging, half-hearted and frankly half-a&^3s measures which used to get proposed and accepted.

Things have now reached a critical mass. NOW, the same old tried and failed Kabuki economics and smarmy political fixes amount to handing a band aid to a hemophiliac.


16 posted on 07/12/2011 9:40:42 AM PDT by SMARTY (Three groups spend other people's money: children, thieves, politicians. All three need supervision.)
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To: arrogantsob

I think so too. I thought that was the idea of the election. They took one useless vote and swept it under the rug.


17 posted on 07/12/2011 9:41:14 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: edcoil

Boner can claim he’s done his job in averting a crisis, but the rest are being beligerent. One SHTF, it will make O’Bozo and the Senate look really bad.

The other alternative is for Boner to pass no bill, then Obama stops paying SS checks and military salaries, and blames those evil mean radical right-wing Republicans for not passing a debt bill.


18 posted on 07/12/2011 9:41:28 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: Thane_Banquo

Rubio going to be on Rush today.


19 posted on 07/12/2011 9:42:26 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Hojczyk
From the article: “Clearly, there’s a large gap between where the president is and where we are,” said Alabama Rep. Martha Roby... She said it’s impossible to negotiate with a president who hasn’t presented a plan.

“The president needs to get his plan down on paper,” Roby said. “We have yet to see his plan.”

- That's about all they need to say at this point. Put the pressure on the POTUS continually, and run down the clock. He will crack if forced to come up with something under the deadline. (Why accept responsibility for a problem that you didn't cause?)

20 posted on 07/12/2011 9:43:46 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Hojczyk

Boehner, stay “pissed”, it looks, at the moment, like you’re doing good on this.


21 posted on 07/12/2011 9:44:18 AM PDT by Gator113 (Palin 2012, period.....)
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To: Hojczyk
"there is no viable path forward"

Could not the House pass and send to the Senate a bill raising the limit with some spending cuts in it?

22 posted on 07/12/2011 9:44:18 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: screaminsunshine

Now it becomes important to start stressing that this would remove the biggest obstacle to financial sanity and would reignite the jobs market.


23 posted on 07/12/2011 9:44:33 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: Nervous Tick

West has spoken out about gunwalker fast and furiousGate. Bachmann is the head of the tea party caucus. And vote out and fire Boehner he and Obama can go golf in their civilian time.

24 posted on 07/12/2011 9:45:24 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

What is different between what West is for and what Boehner, Cantor, et al are for?

Also: You don’t like the SPEAKER, so you plead with someone you like to run for PRESIDENT?

Non-sequitor.


25 posted on 07/12/2011 9:46:17 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: alstewartfan

Yep.

I continue to wonder why the GOP installs castrati as “leaders.”


26 posted on 07/12/2011 9:46:52 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: shalom aleichem

“Quit going to the WH John. You are a co-equal branch of government.”

No kidding ... add the golf course ... and WH picnics.


27 posted on 07/12/2011 9:47:07 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Nervous Tick
I'm liking Angry John a lot more than Weepy John.

What is the value of Free Republic?

28 posted on 07/12/2011 9:47:34 AM PDT by don-o (Abolish FReepathons. Be a monthly donor.)
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To: Nervous Tick
Florida Rep. Allen West emerged from the meeting to say that he didn’t want “fairy dust spending cuts” that are projected over the next decade.
Damn straight, Mr. West! DEEP CUTS — BRUTAL CUTS — NOW!!! Not in ten years. NOW!!!

Maybe we can start by rolling back the 6% pay raise government staff got recently and the one the DC politicians gave themselves for doing such a “stellar” job (s/) then defund Planned Parenthood, take media matters off 501c3 status then audit their books, audit fannie and freddie mac, audit Pelosi, Soros, and Reid (just because) then cut, cut, cut!

29 posted on 07/12/2011 9:48:29 AM PDT by Bitsy (!)
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To: txrangerette

Irregardless of Boehner... I want West as POTUS but sadly he is not running. Bachmann is doing excellent so I can dream for true tea party reform is all.


30 posted on 07/12/2011 9:50:59 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: arrogantsob

No, it wouldn’t.

The biggest problem for the job market now is seen in our idiotic trade policies.

The biggest problems for domestic producers is regulation.

Resolving the budget issues in DC won’t lead to a rapid turn-around in employment. Resolving the regulatory idiocy enshrined in Obamacare would help a lot on both fronts, but the GOP has indicated that they don’t have the required testicular fortitude to go after Obamacare.

And in addition to all of the above, the GOP never breathes a word about going after the fraud on Wall Street and the fraud in the mortgage industry.


31 posted on 07/12/2011 9:51:16 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: Hojczyk
he did warn them that they will quickly lose leverage in the debate as the country grows closer to the Aug. 2 debt default deadline and Wall Street and business leaders pressure them to cut a deal.

Politico mischaracterizing again, why on Earth would Wall Street and business leaders pressure them to cut a deal and raise taxes on Wall street and business? Zero and Turbo Tax Tim wouldn't DARE default, it could never be fixed so they could spend again, and Zer0 and the Rats would be decimated in the November, the party that spent America into bankruptcy.

The Speaker has to know that a "deal" will destroy the Republican party and America.

A Zer0-Rat capitulation will save America (and the Rats), and a standoff will save America and kill the Rats.

32 posted on 07/12/2011 9:52:40 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: txrangerette

Hard to believe all the back stabbers posting today. Our guys are holding fast and talking strong but instead of support they get crap. I sure as hell would not want any of the “our guys are going to fold” posters here watching my flank in a fire fight. That is for damn sure.


33 posted on 07/12/2011 9:52:40 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: NVDave; maggief

People have been screaming for weeks that Boehner will try to raise taxes. He won’t. But some people won’t admit their error and would rather become steeped in hatred for one man. Know anybody like that?


34 posted on 07/12/2011 9:53:39 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Hojczyk
Duh

Cut the Budget tomorrow to 1 Trillion with the bulk of it going to Defense.

35 posted on 07/12/2011 9:53:44 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Hojczyk

It’s time for Boehner to have his staff write up the bill that meets his goals, and call the House into session to consider same. Pass it next week.

The ball is then clearly in the democrats court.


36 posted on 07/12/2011 9:55:14 AM PDT by henkster (Ethanol belongs in a beer can, not a gas tank.)
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To: Hojczyk

This Kenyan Village Fraud and Muslim Terrorist posing as POTUS has been running $1.6 Trillion Deficits every year of his Terror Hold on the U.S. and Boehner only wants to cut $ 2 Trillion over Ten Years!! Thats Outrageously Stupid! CUT $2 Trillion in this upcoming year in spending! But take it out of the useless overbloated Federal Departments! Cut the Departments of Energy, State, Treasury, INJUSTICE, HOMELAND TERRORISM, Interior, etc. by 25-30% each!! Let the layed off Useless Employees go out and find a real job!! Speaker BONER!! Now hear this!!! STOP THE SPENDING ON USELESS CRAP!!
Obummer has doubled the number of Federal LIMOS on his watch, hired 47 CZARS, and thoroughly P*SSED OF Every One of Our Real Allies!! This Reign of TERROR has to be STOPPED NOW!!


37 posted on 07/12/2011 9:55:34 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Greatest President :George Washington!!)
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To: Hojczyk
This chart should be on every campaign ad in 2012:


38 posted on 07/12/2011 9:57:28 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: txrangerette

Well, I, for one, haven’t ... but I still think Boehner is a weak, GOP elite (with a drinking problem). He got the leadership position because it was his turn.

JMO


39 posted on 07/12/2011 9:57:50 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Nervous Tick

Great quote by Rep. West!


40 posted on 07/12/2011 9:58:18 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Hojczyk

41 posted on 07/12/2011 9:59:22 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

I totally support the tea party reformers.

Boehner isn’t going to try raising taxes.

That aside, the war against Michele Bachmann by Palin supporters here on this site...now posting material generated by the Left against Michele and her husband and screaming “see, see, Bachmann can’t win because the media will destroy her and her husband (while themselves helping the media destroy her)” makes me sick.


42 posted on 07/12/2011 10:00:12 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Nervous Tick

Well at least some of these guys get the picture. Thats encouraging.


43 posted on 07/12/2011 10:02:43 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: arrogantsob

I am for that. The borrowing has to stop first. If they are allowed to borrow they will and they will spend it faster than they can borrow it. I agree with shut it down. Then let the House dole out the money for the right things. We could eliminate the root of the problem.


44 posted on 07/12/2011 10:03:06 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: NVDave

Of course it would international trade INCREASES jobs in both of the trading partners. American are paid far too much to produce much of the products which are being made above. That is part of economic life. Even China is facing the problem of rising wages making some production unprofitable there.

Besides international trade is still a small part of the overall economy. Removing Obamacare costs will make labor much more attractive to corporations. Now they refuse to take on new employees or keep present ones because of the escalation of health care costs.

Nor has the GOP backed down on ObamaCare. It has to increase its forces to be effective.

It cannot attack everything at once and must concentrate on one or two interests since the average voters can barely put 2 and 2 together.

You could generate a list of a hundred critical issues but forget about it they cannot get to them all at the same time.

Above all KISS.


45 posted on 07/12/2011 10:04:31 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: henkster
Something like that is bound to happen. Right now the GOP wants the Marxist to present their plan so that when the Marxist media starts crying about the cuts in the GOP plan the GOP can at least point to a Marxist plan that would be even worse for the USA.

I do not expect the Marxists to present a plan. I expect them to demigod the issue all the way. If I am correct then the GOP must send something reasonable and let the Marxists kill it. I think the Marxists want a shutdown-default to demigod into the next election, been saying that for some time now.

46 posted on 07/12/2011 10:04:37 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Hojczyk

Do it John. Bring a bill to the floor that can pass the house, then send it onto the senate. Let democrats there block it, or let Obama veto it. CALL THEIR BLUFF!!!!!! Its time to play hardball people. Call their bluff, then the democrats OWN it and we can batter them with it until November 2012!!!

DOoooo EEEETT!


47 posted on 07/12/2011 10:04:57 AM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: ConservativeDude

Other than Cantor,West and a select other few tea partiers they are all going backwards and playing ring around the rosey. Obama canned the only good thing Clinton did; welfare reform.The democrats make us class warfare communists and the GOP toddle along and they all vote themselves payraises.NONE of them mean business until they delete the CRA amendments that destroyed our economy. Until this is and ObamaCare defunding and abolishing the current ways of the IRS,EPA,DOE and get all the corruption out of the ATF,FBI,DOJ it is nothing but the same ole dems get control blow it then the pubs get control blow it dog and pony show.

Sorry but Boehner compromising this for that on the golf course just ain’t doing it for the independent voters.Clean it all up like the majority of the people want and stop spending money on Chinese hookers and field mice garbage.


48 posted on 07/12/2011 10:05:39 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Hojczyk

he did warn them that they will quickly lose leverage in the debate as the country grows closer to the Aug. 2 debt default deadline and Wall Street and business leaders pressure them to cut a deal.


Well that is laying the cards on the table face up.

You only have a weak hand if you think you have a weak hand.


49 posted on 07/12/2011 10:05:47 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( getting closer to the truth.................)
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To: Thane_Banquo

Exactly right. I wrote Boehner just that today.


50 posted on 07/12/2011 10:06:08 AM PDT by qman
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