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Game over: Gay marriage will eventually be the law of the land
Boston Globe ^ | July 12, 2011 | Tom Keane

Posted on 07/12/2011 10:21:51 AM PDT by madprof98

THE FIGHT over same-sex marriage - a topic undiscussed 20 years ago, a shocking proposition a decade ago - will soon be over. It will take some years more, and battles remain, but the outcome of the war is clear.

This may seem a remarkable claim, given the federal Defense Of Marriage Act, the 2008 rejection of same-sex marriage by California voters, and the laws of a majority of states, all of which aim to preserve traditional, heterosexual marriage. And there are still more than a few politicians who indulge in homophobia, most notably Michele Bachmann, who recently became the first presidential candidate to sign an anti-gay-marriage pledge.

(Excerpt) Read more at boston.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; marriage
They are very confident they have won this battle, and perhaps they're right. But if marriage is lost, the country is lost too.
1 posted on 07/12/2011 10:21:52 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: madprof98

This is just sodomite psy-ops.


2 posted on 07/12/2011 10:24:57 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: madprof98

The idea of a Judeo-Christian ethic in this country is gone, washed away by the rising tides of depravity. All that’s left are the texts of our ancestors and written thoughts and ideas of our forefathers, but no one wants to pay attention to a bunch of doddering old fools, right?

...Right?


3 posted on 07/12/2011 10:26:02 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: madprof98

This is just sodomite psy-ops.


4 posted on 07/12/2011 10:26:43 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: madprof98

Just another Bachmann hit piece.


5 posted on 07/12/2011 10:27:18 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (Liz Cheney/Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: rarestia
Hollywood has been pushing homosexuality on us heavily for nearly 20 years.

I can't even remember the last major show I watched that didn't feature at least one gay character. Always shown in a positive light, which is nothing short of brain washing. the disconnect between the reality of the gay lifestyle and how it is depicted on TV and in movies is even greater than what Hollywood and news outlets have been doing for blacks for 30+ years. It's a campaign to change preconceptions based on flat out false information, and it's working to a large extent.

6 posted on 07/12/2011 10:31:49 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: madprof98

Here in WI, homo marriage is banned and was upheld by our Supremes. The only way this gets overturned is from a ruling by SCOTUS and that simply isn’t happening.


7 posted on 07/12/2011 10:32:56 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Governor Sarah Heath Palin for President of the United States in 2012)
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To: madprof98

In a 2000 year context, it’s just a fad. Like the Inquisition, which was longer but less fabulous, people will eventually regain their theological and moral bearings.


8 posted on 07/12/2011 10:33:58 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

is this why Vin diesel came out? his new movie will be too fast too fabulous. (/s)


9 posted on 07/12/2011 10:34:35 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: madprof98

boston globe and a homosexual author....


10 posted on 07/12/2011 10:37:31 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: madprof98
This battle isn't over. They have power right now, but remember, not one state when on the ballot, wanted homosexual marriage. That means that every person who voted against homosexual marriage saw a judge overturn their will. I think most people know in their hearts this is wrong. Some push that knowledge aside for political reasons, others think tolerance is letting someone have whatever they want even if its bad for them, some see it in their families and don't want to seem unloving to their loved one and others are just depraved themselves. This is long from being over. People are praying and God is listening. Our God is holy, right and just. He will not stand for this for too long. The lefts god is what they created her or him to be & has no power. Abraham ask that Sodom not be destroyed for the sake of 10 believers. I believe God is keeping us from total ruin. We see His warnings everywhere. I just wouldn't want to be here if God's people were gone.
11 posted on 07/12/2011 10:38:57 AM PDT by Linda Frances
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To: madprof98

A revival in our land, a move of God’s Spirit, could stop our gallop toward Gomorrah.


12 posted on 07/12/2011 10:39:21 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“...which is nothing short of brain washing. the disconnect between the reality of the gay lifestyle and how it is depicted on TV and in movies is even greater than what Hollywood and news outlets have been doing for blacks for 30+ years.”

How has Hollywood and the news outlets brainwashed their viewers in their depiction of blacks causing a disconnection with reality?


13 posted on 07/12/2011 10:43:32 AM PDT by trumandogz
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To: madprof98

no barf alert?


14 posted on 07/12/2011 10:43:41 AM PDT by MNDude (so that's what they meant by Carter's second term)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Wisconsin’s marriage amendment passed by 59% in 2006, one of the states that only passed it in the 50-60% range. My own state, Va., was also one of these. As soon as the homosexualists think they have the votes they will be screaming for the popular vote repeal process.

Freegards


15 posted on 07/12/2011 10:54:01 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: madprof98

It’s disgusting that grown men love to play in each other’s dung and want the rest of us lovingly accept it as being normal. Well, sodomites can push their mess if they want and they may get a bunch of people to give them what they want, but God will NEVER accept their filthy lifestyle. Period.

The Bible prophesied that there will be a time when the world will be just like it was in Sodom & Gomorrah. Homosexuality was rampant and homosexuals were wild and lawless. When it gets like that again then get ready for God’s judgement to rain down again.


16 posted on 07/12/2011 10:54:53 AM PDT by abcc2011 (Christian and conservative.)
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To: Thrownatbirth
Agree, this is a secular progressive attempt to legislate their morality and to attack traditional morality. The only real greater interest the state has in marriage between a man and a woman is the protection of the family so that children can be raised, with minimum government interference, to be well adjusted members of society.
Only a fraction of a percent of people will actually become same sex "marriage" partners. So what is the greater good?
People will eventually make a distinction between same sex marriage and a marriage between one man and one woman. Perhaps using a different word to describing each relationship. So temporarily the progressives have won a battle in their war against traditional values and morality but the emphasis is on the word temporarily!!
17 posted on 07/12/2011 11:00:06 AM PDT by orinoco
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To: madprof98
Statement: "Game over: Gay marriage will eventually be the law of the land"

Response: Agreed.

Comment:A we are members of a dying civilization whose primary "good things" are: Tolerance-(meaning the inability to say yes or no, the inability to take a stand.);egalitarianism, apathy, lack of leadership; constant talking; a complete dedication to a life of eating, drinking, drugging, copulating, evacuating the bowels all followed a good solid sleep with lots of snoring; the constant gentle movement of cash throughout society achieved by taking from one to give to another; the total dedication of the individual to a life of pleasure and whatever power that he can grab.

18 posted on 07/12/2011 11:06:56 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: madprof98

All the more reason to get government out of the marriage business completely, before it’s too late.


19 posted on 07/12/2011 11:10:04 AM PDT by riverdawg
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To: Linda Frances

“They have power right now, but remember, not one state when on the ballot, wanted homosexual marriage.”

Arizona failed to pass a pro-marriage amendment (51-49% if I recall), then passed it a couple of years later. So perhaps it can change for the better. But the general trend seems to be of accepting “gay marriage”.

The average of the state amendments that have passed is 67%, but most of them passed in the middle of the last decade. I imagine the majority would still pass, and many would pass by a lot, but by a somewhat lower %. There are some that passed in the low 50% range that might not pass now.

It will be interesting to see what happens to prop.8 if it is upheld by our black robed masters, it only passed by 52% in 2008, if I recall.

Freegards


20 posted on 07/12/2011 11:11:53 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: madprof98

“They are very confident they have won this battle, and perhaps they’re right. But if marriage is lost, the country is lost too.”

I think the United States -is- lost. It is essential however to distinguish the government in Washington D.C. from America and Americans. A distinct American identity and culture existed before the United States government existed, and will continue - indeed may even have a renaissance - after the Washington government is dissolved or discarded. The Washington government has perversely become EVERYTHING that Washington and his Continentals fought against.


21 posted on 07/12/2011 11:12:25 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (We are not governed. We are occupied.)
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To: madprof98
The idea that insanity is a one way street is itself insane. Tulip bulb bubbles come to an end. Hanging "witches" in Salem was a brief excursion. Robespierre's "Reign Of Terror" pretty well ended after Robespierre, himself, went to the Guillotine.

Same sex marriage is an oxymoron. It only flies, anywhere, because a distracted population--caught up in electronic diversions, television, games, internet, etc..--simply does not take the time to actually reflect on the reality of much of anything. Few see the forest. And when a loud and passionate element shout that there is something significant on the northern bark of four or five trees, stupefied listeners are willing to take their word for it.

Yet, eventually, even in Hans Christian Andersen's fable, a little boy points out that the Emperor is indeed naked. And suddenly, the unthinkable is again obvious to all. In a similar moment, the present lunacy will come to an end.

The function of marriage is to sanctify the procreational process. It affirms the multi-generational purpose of a moral society. This is so obvious, it goes unremarked until something wakes us all up, once more. But, again, it is obvious. Thus, to clarify the point. It has been the law, policy, etc., that a marriage that has not been consummated by a procreational act, is void, and may be annulled. And, however befuddled State Legislators may overlook the obvious, two people of the same sex lack the necessary equipment for such consummation.

When all is said and done. The only thing we can say about what will eventually happen, is that this absurd phenomenon will end as did the Tulip bubble, the Salem "Witch" trials, and the adulation over the Emperor's wonderful new clothes.

William Flax

22 posted on 07/12/2011 11:16:00 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Thrownatbirth

You said it.

Today we are reading book 4 of 12 of Homer’s Odyssey for my daughter’s pre-ninth grade summer reading.

I teach literature to middle and high schoolers. People (especially some teaching colleagues) cannot believe that the likes of Shakespeare, Jane Austen and R.L. Stevenson can drag them away from the media competition, but it is true. Of course, it takes a bit to get them involved.

Good stories of virtue and heroism are more appealing than ever in the face of the “competition”.

It’s very encouraging.


23 posted on 07/12/2011 11:19:04 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Ransomed

the homosexual organizations are very rich and powerful, big corporate donors like Home Depot, Budweiser, ford Foundation, the Haas Foundation (Levi-Strauss money) -— and on and on. Hundreds, maybe thousands, of big and little organizations from gay rodeo to gay AA.
Woud love to see where all this money is going. They are lobbying in every state capitol as we speak.

Millions in donations pays for a lot of full-time activists. But I don’t think they’re going to get ‘r done.

they are only 3% of the population.


24 posted on 07/12/2011 11:32:36 AM PDT by squarebarb
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To: squarebarb

I voted for the marriage amendment in my state, and would do so again, but I don’t think it is going to matter eventually. The sooner folks start looking to their faiths to define marriage instead of the ever devolving versions of the statists and homosexualists, the better off the institution will be, in my opinion.

“they are only 3% of the population.”

I wouldn’t be shocked if it was even less than that. Statists and homosexualists love that many are conditioned to think that marriage is just a collection of rights and obligations from the state that can be granted, enforced, severed and resumed as long as the state gives its permission. They know if marriage is merely viewed as a contract that applies between any people the gov’t deems it does, then there is no real reason not to accept impossibilities like “gay marriage”, considering the cohabitation and sodomy laws aren’t enforced anymore.

Freegards


25 posted on 07/12/2011 11:51:32 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: Ransomed

We can only pray that ordinary people will see how the homosexual agenda is pushing it’s ideas on children and their will on all people, like it or not.


26 posted on 07/12/2011 11:51:32 AM PDT by Linda Frances
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To: Linda Frances

“We can only pray that ordinary people will see how the homosexual agenda is pushing it’s ideas on children and their will on all people, like it or not.”

Attitudes on abortion have kind of turned around in recent years, so perhaps something like that could happen to “gay marriage”.

The bad news is the state has the power to punish if you don’t buy into their claim that “gay marriage’ is possible. The good news is that they really can’t change the true definition of marriage, just like passing a law that the moon is made of cheese doesn’t make it so. The other good news is that some faiths aren’t ever going to accept “gay marriage”, no matter the punishment. It’s just a shame that the state has that power in the first place, in my opinion.

Freegards


27 posted on 07/12/2011 12:00:08 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: squarebarb
It's true that probably less than 2% of the population is gay, but he majority of heterosexuals support a form of marriage which has already been redefined almost past recognition, whose core meanings have already been abandoned.

Marriage of its essence is exclusive, lifelong, and fertile, and defined by sexual union.

"Exclusive" was abandoned when premarital copulation, at least for singles in their 20's, became the "new norm."

"Lifelong" was abandoned via divorce.

"Fertile" was abandoned via contraception, sterilization and abortion. That's three out of four.

Oh, and "sexual union"? That's what's being abandoned now, since whatever two women or two men do together with their genitals, it isn't sexual union. By definition: It does not unite the sexes. It's not the marital act, the defining act of consummating marriage.

So it's heterosexuals --- maybe not me, and maybe not you, but heterosexuals in general --- who knocked out 3 out of 4 components of the definition of marriage.

Straight people queered the norm. So-called "gay marriage" is not the cause of the redefinition of marriage, but the result.

28 posted on 07/12/2011 12:26:35 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("The first duty of intelligent men of our day is the restatement of the obvious. " - George Orwell)
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To: squarebarb

They aren’t even 3%, more like 1%.

But the left, not too long ago, started their “project 10”, which was an attempt to push the lie that 10% of the population is gay.

It’s a technique called “jamming”, and it’s used all over the media. Make it look like their numbers are much more than they are, make sure nothing negative is shown, make sure that if there is only going to be one “normal” or “good” person in a story, that it’s a homosexual.

Others have seen this technique, I’m sure.


29 posted on 07/12/2011 12:32:18 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Ransomed
“they are only 3% of the population."

On the positive side, that is the percentage of school-aged children who are homeschooled and never hear the gay-rights propaganda in their curriculum. Add to that the students who attend Christian and Catholic schools and we can see that God is upholding a significant remnant. Now if these kids will go out and be the salt and light that they should be, perhaps we can see our nation pull back from its corruption.

30 posted on 07/12/2011 12:44:39 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Governor Romney, why would any conservative vote for the author of the beta version of ObamaCare?)
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To: madprof98

The socialists always get their way when they pursue a group rights social issue. Americans always pay for it in the consequences of lost freedom and suffering.


31 posted on 07/12/2011 2:35:46 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: CommerceComet

That is a good point about the homeschooled kids.

Freegards


32 posted on 07/12/2011 3:59:48 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: trumandogz
Actually it is done in many ways:

- the most common is when news outlets don't mention the race of the suspect when it is a black perpetrator, especially if the victims are white and especially if the victim is a white woman or white child. (the news media has recently extended this privilege to Muslims when there is terrorism involved)

- a black man is hardly ever depicted as the bad guy in a movie.

- the gangsta life style is glamorized and pushed onto our children in a variety of ways from pop/rap songs to clothing styles.

- any actual accomplishments of blacks are shouted from the rooftops, distorted and hyped from every media imaginable until it reaches ridiculous levels (ie. tiger woods, Oprah, Michael Jordan, Obama) All of the above had REAL accomplishments, but they were all hyped FAR more than any of their white contemporaries which also had similar success.

33 posted on 07/12/2011 6:29:36 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: Ohioan

OK .. So I did some reading and now I know about Dutch Tulip bubbles (It actually was interesting - thank you) but I’m not sure I get the reference about “And when a loud and passionate element shout that there is something significant on the northern bark of four or five trees.”

Is it a Grimm Fairy Tale or some such? The only thing I found was the old adage about tree moss on trees.


34 posted on 07/12/2011 7:25:54 PM PDT by texanred
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>> Gay marriage will eventually be the law of the land

I really don’t care how homosexuals materialize their fantasies, but to have the State force it on us is different matter altogether.


35 posted on 07/12/2011 7:29:32 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: madprof98
Game over

Hell if it is.

36 posted on 07/12/2011 7:31:05 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The tea party was and is about the right to govern ourselves, according to natural right.)
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To: achilles2000
This is just sodomite psy-ops.

Exactly. We should see through this as such.

37 posted on 07/12/2011 8:32:05 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: texanred
"I’m not sure I get the reference about “And when a loud and passionate element shout that there is something significant on the northern bark of four or five trees."

The reference goes to the old cliche about people who cannot see the forest for the trees. In fighting the Socialist types since I left High School, many years ago--including making fools out of many in College & Law School, I have gotten enough into their heads to realize that that saying really does describe them. Most of them have serious perceptual deficits. (See Perceptual Deficit.)

I am not referring to the demagogues, who exploit those suffering from that disability; but it really is the condition of those whom sociopathic Leftists such as Keynes and Lenin ridiculed, even while they exploited them.

William Flax

38 posted on 07/13/2011 8:14:22 AM PDT by Ohioan
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