Skip to comments.McConnell unveils debt limit ‘Plan B’
Posted on 07/12/2011 1:03:07 PM PDT by RummyChickEdited on 07/12/2011 7:46:03 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
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Being from Arizona, I just sent this to Sen Kyle:
Good grief! The deficit will be $1,600 Billion just this year alone! Yet you want to give Obama a blank check - because you know DAMN WELL that your scheme will make it possible for him to raise the debt limit forever!
Stop being such a pathetic pansies and FIGHT for a change! Grow a spine! Borrow one! But stop rolling over and kissing the Democrat’s rear ends!
Obama and his cohorts are out of control.
tweet:President’s meeting with Congressional leaders over federal debt has ended after 2 hours, source tells Reuters
Was anyone watching Boehner just now of Special Report? He said that HE TRUSTS OBAMA! WHAT?!?!?? Boehner needs to go!
nice ad..but let me add..if Obama wins...Your all outta there...
The GOP is just DUMB!! I can’t believe how dumb they are.
That too. But when it comes to government spending, government programs, and public debt, all of those items originate from and require Congress.
And, should Obama be out of order, Congress has the power of impeachment and removal.
The Dems control the Senate. McConnell doesn't need many Reps to carry his plan forward. The House is where the battle will be fought. The House Dems will support the McConnell plan. It depends how much arm-twisting Boehner can do to get enough Reps to work with the Dems and get a bill passed. Don't forget that it was the Reps who helped Bill Clinton get NAFTA passed.
Mitch has said along that no one was seriously talking about not raising the debt ceiling. Were we not believing him?
Note my tagline, I will never again vote for a RINO just because he is better than the other guy, they both travel the same road and that always leads to a gulag.
I don’t want to hear how it is a vote for Obama, not when the RNC is no better.
jaketapper Jake Tapper
Alan Simpson says Cantor undermined Boehner. “It’s the stuff going on in my party where the pettiness overcomes the patriotism”
It is not a matter of being dumb. The GOP establishment favors big government. Both parties are playing games with us. Good cop, bad cop.
what did he say about Mcconnell’s plan?
I will vote for Sarah Palin if I have to write in four electors from NH - and I’m glad I don’t live in California.
What spending has he undertaken, that is not authorized by a spending law?
He said he understands Mitch’s frustration...nobody wants to default...it’s not the only plan out there in case they don’t come to an agreement...everybody agrees there needs to be a backup plan... He said it will never pass the House, that many Republican House members will never support an increase in the debt limit under any circumstances.
Boehner was weak, I thought. Definitely didn’t come off as a someone arguing from a position of strength. Definitely sounded as if he wants to raise the debt limit.
McConnell = sucker first class
playing poker with him is to play with an unarmed brainless idiot.
For instance, were czars authorized by a spending law?
I think some of these republicans were ALWAYS going to sell us out. McConnell is always looking for a way out.
This taking away the social security argument is 100% BS designed to fool the rubes.
McConnel should resign any leadership post IMMEDIATLY.
no more trent lott, no more mccain.
no more senate country club.
AFAIK, their salaries and staffs operate within an executive budget authorized by Congress. If not, Congress has the power to trim the money. IIRC, Congress toyed with the subject of making it illegal to use allocated funds to pay for czars. I assume that never got past the talking stage.
Anyway, those funds are a drop in the bucket. The difference between Congressionally mandated spending and the Congressionally mandated debt limit is Medicate, Medicaid, Defense, Social Security, and entitlements, mostly, with some amount in maintaining regulatory and judicial activity, plus foreign aid.
I'm not giving Obama a pass, by any means - just asserting that Congress created the debt, deficit and spending issues. Under the Constitution, spending and borrowing is a Congressional function.
Yes ! “US Constitution: Congress shall have the power to borrow money.” That is correct. McConnell is not in Congress, he is in the Senate, and this is his SUGGESTION. The House will not pass it, nor will the Senate from what I am hearing. Mitch needs a Conservative primary challenger!
The good news is that I tried every phone and boxes are full or lines are busy. The loading time for the email option sent me off to do another task.
"Three letters come to mind," wrote Michelle Malkin, a conservative commentator. "W.T.F.?!!"
We've been betrayed, once again. Erickson is right, 2014 cannot come soon enough to vote McConnell out of office. I've said it before, I'll say it again, it's time to completely sweep every politician out of Washington, DC. They do not have our best interests in mind, just their own.
Thank you for posting that..I agree.. he did this before and they fell for it early on. Uses this for his advantage..struts his stuff...and makes the rep.s look foolish to say the least.
I’m so disgusted with the Repubs.they have not figured out how to manever around Obamas plays, even when he’s so obvious, or they simply are putting on a show and have no intentions of carrying thru what they say.
PDATE: Grover Norquist clarified his position on McConnells proposal Tuesday night, insisting that he did not, in fact, endorse the plan. Norquist maintains that he supports forcing the president to put a plan in writing, but does not endorse any particular debt limit contingency plan.
Pass that to the Repubs. I would go for that...the way you wrote this looks like everyones a winner and gets what they want.
I don’t think there’s any way house Republicans would vote to pass this ridiculous “Plan B.” I guess we’ll see.
Obama's not going to stop any S.S. checks...it would be political suicide for the senior vote...he can't afford more voter losses, especially among seniors. I would have called his bluff....but this move by McCon. was quick...what are they doing we are not privy to?
Then the way to do that is to get Harry Reid to pass a budget in the Senate, since it is controlled by Democrats.
Any Senate plan is, by definition, Obama's plan.
Republicans gave away all of their leverage during the lame duck session of the 111th Congress.
They were slow to get started in the 112th Congress.
And now they're getting played again by allowing the Senate to be marginalized, and making everything be between the House and Obama.
McConnell should stay out of it until the Senate goes on record with a budget, otherwise, all he's doing is mucking up the works by being a powerless voice who can nothing but undermine his side's position.
I propose that Congress give up their Constitutional authority and
give President Obama unprecedented power to raise the debt ceiling
by $2.4 trillion in three installments through the end of his term!
Thanks for clarifying that.
Tea Party group tells McConnell to ‘find his spine’
By Daniel Strauss - 07/12/11 04:35 PM ET
The influential conservative Tea Party organization FreedomWorks is pushing back on a plan by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell to hand much of the responsibility for raising the debt ceiling to President Obama.
“Sen. McConnell thinks cutting spending is too hard. Help him find his spine! Call him at 202-224-2541,” the group tweeted.
The tweet came shortly after McConnell unveiled a plan urging Congress to pass legislation that would allow Obama to make a number of small increases to the debt ceiling.
In McConnell’s plan, Congress could only stop Obama from raising the debt ceiling in comparably small increments by passing disapproval resolutions. The resolutions would require two-thirds’ support in both the House and Senate to overcome Obama’s veto.
The senate is part of the congress.
But PJ they are claiming there just isn’t the time now. Though we certainly know they’ve had all the time in the world but opted to take it to the last minute.
What I just don’t get...is everything seems to be coming down to 10 or 12 people determining the plans and deciding what the score is going to be...it’s as though we have no Congress at all...just these few..and frankly I’m getting pretty tired of Obamas Ex. Orders and these select few running our country. We might as well throw in the congress.
If the McConnell plan gets approved by Congress, there will be a revolt by the Tea Party movement and calls for a third party to nominate someone we can support in 2012. Hear me now, believe me later. This could be the straw that broke the camel’s back.
They’ll just build up suspence and put on a big show until the 11th hour. Then they’ll strike a “deal” and kick the can further down the road.
Those jackasses in the Senate would never remove that horse's ass. Too closely related.
whisper1111 mike fogelsanger
cantor sends mcconnell to bachmann clinic to cure his disloyalty
Democratic leaders: We don’t know who’s running GOP debt talks
House Democratic leaders say theyre no longer certain whos negotiating a debt deal on behalf of the GOP, a message theyre pushing to posit a growing rift between Republican leaders
All part of the DC Banking Investment Bureaucracy Racket. The ones that actually have the Puppet spammer on leash.
The same ones that actually agreed to meet with the Spammer at Blair House for the “We Won” Vampire-Care so called conference.
Notice again the timing for the extension..right into the implementation of Vampire-care 2013, what the Racket is counting on.
What is the difference between Mitch’s Plan B and Obama’s Plan A?