McConnell unveils debt limit ‘Plan B’

washington post ^ | 7/12 | Felicia Sonmez

[kabar]

Well said. We are in a battle of survival. It matters not what letter is behind the names of the political elites if the result is the same. The vast majority of them favor big government and out of control spending. There is not a dime’s worth of difference. McConnell’s surrender is just an example of the blame game in Washington where posturing is more important than principle. The only motivation is to move the can down the road rather than face the problem. As Rush said today, we are running out of road.

[familyop]

Drill Thrawl wrote:
"Yes it is always preferable to stay with an adulterous, abusive spouse."

In Maryland replied:
"Well, it is if the ONLY other choice is an adulterous, abusive, drunk, ego-centric, muderous spouse."

And what do we call a person who stays with an adulterous, abusive spouse to avoid her other choice of "an adulterous, abusive, drunk, ego-centric, muderous spouse?"

FRiends, don't be women of ill repute. Let's avoid buying anything that we don't need, and become more self-sufficient every month. Learn to manufacture an item of necessity as a hobby for now. Starve the beast, then step into leadership and rebuild after the final repudiation of debt!

[Cboldt]

-- Did you happen to catch the floor speech from McConnel, shown here on FR? Doesn't sound like a cave to me. --

Watch what they DO, not what they SAY.

[GatorGirl]

The left is spinning this as “oh no, this means there will have to be 12 votes on the debt between now and the election!”

What they really mean is “don’t throw me into dat dere briar patch!”

I’ve been thinking about this since I heard about it and have concluded it stinks 6 ways to Sunday. Just dare Zero to hold SS checks from the oldsters and pin it all on him.

Why are they negotiating with the White House anyway? Just send Zero some good legislation with lots of cuts NOW (whole programs) and let him own the failure to raise the debt ceiling.

Stupid, stupid Republicans!

[kabar]

Norquist is another one of the inside the Beltway legends in their own mind who thinks that McConnell is making some kind of brilliant move. The problem is that the American people, especially the Tea Party movement, will see this as a victory for Obama. The MSM will play it that way, i.e., a strong and courageous Obama faced down the "terrorist" GOP that tried to cut Medicare and SS to protect tax cuts for the rich.

The McConnell plan will be a political disaster for the GOP. It will be divisive and self-defeating. A GOP that reaped the rewards of the historic 2010 midterms is on probabtion with the people who put them back in control of the House. Surrender to Obama will lead to a third party. This may be the straw that broke the camel's back for conservatives.

[familyop]

I ain't gonna be no ho', cause..."That ain't right!"

;-)

[Cboldt]

-- Doesn't this remove power belonging to the Congress? --

Sort of. Congress has set up conflicting laws. It has already passed legislation that results in spending, and it has erected a debt limit. When the mandated spending exceeds the mandated debt limit, one or the other has to give. Since Congress created both, it's really up to Congress to choose which has priority.

But, the one thing that Congress does not want is accountability, so it is blaming the president for the spending, and now, it aims to make the president accountable for the debt limit.

At any rate, it's Congress that is out of control.

[Gaffer]

God in Heaven! What lust for power, greed and recognition by media, leftists, and Democrat polititicians does to make low-life weasels like these two lie, cheat and steal to get elected by honest people thinking they were something different than they really are.

This proposal (I cringe to call it that) is nothing more than abject abdication of their elected duties. I sincerely hope you show them what thunder and lightning is really for.

[familyop]

Thanks. I’m sorry that I didn’t make it clear that the comment was meant for everyone. And yes, you understand what’s going on.

[DeusExMachina05]

I agree. Nicely put.

[Mr Rogers]

Being from Arizona, I just sent this to Sen Kyle:

Good grief! The deficit will be $1,600 Billion just this year alone! Yet you want to give Obama a blank check - because you know DAMN WELL that your scheme will make it possible for him to raise the debt limit forever!

Stop being such a pathetic pansies and FIGHT for a change! Grow a spine! Borrow one! But stop rolling over and kissing the Democrat’s rear ends!

[novemberslady]

Obama and his cohorts are out of control.

[RummyChick]

tweet:President’s meeting with Congressional leaders over federal debt has ended after 2 hours, source tells Reuters
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http://www.gallup.com/poll/148454/Debt-Ceiling-Increase-Remains-Unpopular-Americans.aspx

[KansasGirl]

Was anyone watching Boehner just now of Special Report? He said that HE TRUSTS OBAMA! WHAT?!?!?? Boehner needs to go!

[RummyChick]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQj9o4APqRc

nice ad..but let me add..if Obama wins...Your all outta there...

[KansasGirl]

The GOP is just DUMB!! I can’t believe how dumb they are.

[Cboldt]

-- Obama and his cohorts are out of control. --

That too. But when it comes to government spending, government programs, and public debt, all of those items originate from and require Congress.

And, should Obama be out of order, Congress has the power of impeachment and removal.

[kabar]

It’s a bad option that McConnell put forth. He also knows it has no chance of getting support from his own members in the Senate - Rubio, Paul, DeMint, Johnson, Toomey - none of them would support this.

The Dems control the Senate. McConnell doesn't need many Reps to carry his plan forward. The House is where the battle will be fought. The House Dems will support the McConnell plan. It depends how much arm-twisting Boehner can do to get enough Reps to work with the Dems and get a bill passed. Don't forget that it was the Reps who helped Bill Clinton get NAFTA passed.

[itsahoot]

Mitch has said along that no one was seriously talking about not raising the debt ceiling. Were we not believing him?

Note my tagline, I will never again vote for a RINO just because he is better than the other guy, they both travel the same road and that always leads to a gulag.

I don’t want to hear how it is a vote for Obama, not when the RNC is no better.

[RummyChick]

jaketapper Jake Tapper
Alan Simpson says Cantor undermined Boehner. “It’s the stuff going on in my party where the pettiness overcomes the patriotism”