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Congress Grills NASA Chief Over Next Big Rocket Design (Answer was due in Jan of 2011)
Space.com ^ | 07/12/2011 | Space.com

Posted on 07/12/2011 2:46:33 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour

A congressional panel grilled NASA chief Charlie Bolden today (July 12) on Capitol Hill, repeatedly asking him why the space agency has yet to choose a design for its next-generation heavy-lift rocket.

Last year Congress gave NASA until mid-January 2011 to pick a design for the rocket, known as the Space Launch System, that will carry astronauts on deep space missions. NASA still has not made an official decision, and members of the House of Representatives' Committee on Science, Space and Technology took Bolden to task.

"We've waited for answers that have not come. We've pleaded for answers that have not come," committee chairman Ralph Hall (R-Texas) told Bolden. "We've run out of patience."

(Excerpt) Read more at space.com ...


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KEYWORDS: affirmativeaction; appointees; bolden; deadpcshuttle; fitness; ion; light; men; nuclearpropulsion; obama; physical

1 posted on 07/12/2011 2:46:36 PM PDT by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Leave the man alone!

Cooking up false data for global warming, and muslim outreach is more than a full time job.


2 posted on 07/12/2011 2:48:36 PM PDT by brownsfan (I miss the America I grew up in.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Has Obama put the muzzle on him??
3 posted on 07/12/2011 2:48:58 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

well, that’s one way to screw up the entire NASA program


4 posted on 07/12/2011 2:52:55 PM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: brownsfan

... they gave all the prospective plans to the muzzies for them to choose the best one and report back....


5 posted on 07/12/2011 2:54:01 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Muslims NASA project Pictures, Images and Photos

NASA has other rocket projects.

6 posted on 07/12/2011 2:54:42 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: elpadre
With the erratic muslim in the white house I don't think anyone can honestly say what their plan is a month from now.

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7 posted on 07/12/2011 2:59:01 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

“We’ve waited for answers that have not come. We’ve pleaded for answers that have not come,” committee chairman Ralph Hall (R-Texas) told Bolden.

They don’t have any answers. This Administration is the Most Clueless in History. They either have No Answers to a Problem. Or they Simply Blame Bush . Which ever answer is the Most Applicable.


8 posted on 07/12/2011 2:59:26 PM PDT by dbrew2u
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Here it is six months later, and they’re getting around to asking questions.

Anyone remember that last time you turned in work more than six months late?


9 posted on 07/12/2011 3:03:08 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (F me, you, everybody, the new Dem/Pubie compromise. No debt reduction, + wild spending forever...)
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To: DoughtyOne

My first boss would go crazy is you were 6 minutes late!

Folks, we got to face it, the US has completely collapsed, ethically, morally and financially.


10 posted on 07/12/2011 3:07:00 PM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

“deep space missions”

Really?
The moon isn’t “deep space’.
I’m pretty sure Mars isn’t even in “deep space”.

“Deep space” isn’t even in our lifetimes.


11 posted on 07/12/2011 3:07:00 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

They’re still trying to kill developing heavy lift and Orion as ordered by congress, this of course was not what Ozero wanted.
They think they can get around congress by pulling this crap.


12 posted on 07/12/2011 3:14:35 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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To: SJSAMPLE

Correct. “Deep space” means leaving the solar system.


13 posted on 07/12/2011 3:16:53 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Mouton

Mine too.

Look, we thought the nation was on the ropes under Carter too. Reagan got things back on track.

Things are more bleak today, but the right leader is going to come along and clean house.


14 posted on 07/12/2011 3:17:04 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (F me, you, everybody, the new Dem/Pubie compromise. No debt reduction, + wild spending forever...)
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To: SJSAMPLE

I consider deep space to be between the stars. Even if we had kept the pace we were going deep space wouldn’t be in our lifetimes but it might have been within the lifetimes of our grandchildren.

To even consider sending men to deep space, we’ve got to get propulsion systems that can get us to at least 1/16 of lightspeed or more. Even then, there’s no reason to send men out to between the stars to do what unmanned craft can do. We need a destination to send men to.


15 posted on 07/12/2011 3:17:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: DoughtyOne
Things are more bleak today, but the right leader is going to come along and clean house.

The right leader will be an advantage but this one is truly on the people to fix.
16 posted on 07/12/2011 3:19:06 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Having been intimately involved with numerous government projects I can tell you exactly why they haven’t chosen a design. No leadership. Somebody has to take charge and make critical decisions. Somebody has to arbitrate between the competing potential customers. Everybody wants THEIR version to be the one chosen. The moment you make a decision a whole range of options disappear. A simple example would be the F111 swing wing fighter bomber. One group wanted a fighter, which mean small, agile, maneuverable and fast. Another group wanted a bomber. I think it was Secretary McNamara who decided one plane could do both. (Also, the father of the one gun for all applications, the M16.) A plane big enough to carry a significant bomb load was a poor fighter plane. A plane maneuverable enough and fast enough to be a fighter was a poor bomber. The plane did nothing well. I’ll bet the same arguments are happening now. Somebody wants a heavy lift vehicle and somebody just wants a space taxi.


17 posted on 07/12/2011 3:22:44 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: SJSAMPLE

Deep space is now defined to be non-orbital missions like the Moon or Mars.


18 posted on 07/12/2011 3:24:13 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Reily

Its sad. Just this morning we were talking about how much space has grown since the 1920s and now we’re talking about how our space is shrinking.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2747178/posts


19 posted on 07/12/2011 3:35:34 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Reily; cripplecreek

At the rate of the world crumbling and going all Atlas Shrugged into Anthem on us, deep space will be the 5 minute trip on Virgin Galactic.

We HAVE the tech to achieve about 1/20 lightspeed if we put our brains together on an unmanned nuclear pulse engine. At least see what the Alpha Centauri system consists of in our grandchildren’s lifetimes.


20 posted on 07/12/2011 3:44:07 PM PDT by Crazieman (Feb 7, 2008 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966675/posts?page=28#28)
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To: cripplecreek

Personally, I believe that if we get the right person in the White house, they will be able to defund the Left with Congressional cooperation. In many more instances then we know government funded NROs like ACORN are killing us.

It’s time to pull the plug on every one of them. It’s time to clean up our Universities. It’s time to do a thorough re-evaluation of a lot of what is going on in our government.

The agenda in schools needs to be turned around.

I could go on, but you catch my drift. Granted we do have work to do too, but our President and Congress must get their act together. When they do, this place will turn around very quickly.

Boehner needs to go. We must replace him with someone who truly gets it, and isn’t afraid to start making some demands and bold moves.


21 posted on 07/12/2011 3:44:56 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (F me, you, everybody, the new Dem/Pubie compromise. No debt reduction, + wild spending forever...)
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To: cripplecreek

yeah basically all NASA does now is treat the Earth as its main focus, and as we know..(can you say Hansen & AGW.... And why isn’t Hansen fired and in jail he has routinely violated about a dozen civil service regulations !) it can’t even get that right!


22 posted on 07/12/2011 3:45:00 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Reily

What EVER.

With the economy precarious and likely to stay so until well into a non-Democrat administration, Republicans of all people should understand that, at best, there will be a dizzying array of possibilities, few if any worth pursuing further. Why not bring Congress itself into the question? They aren’t doing much good by carping. What best represents the will of the people?


23 posted on 07/12/2011 3:45:04 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
uhh yes but that wasn't what was being discussed!
24 posted on 07/12/2011 3:47:02 PM PDT by Reily
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To: DoughtyOne

I’m lucky that I was able to vote for a man who refused to promise money to the district. He didn’t say he wouldn’t bring any money into the district but he did say that we need to produce our own wealth and get the federal government’s hands off of it.

Its the right attitude.


25 posted on 07/12/2011 3:57:00 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: himno hero

26 posted on 07/12/2011 4:09:09 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Pelosi: Obamacare indulgences for sale.)
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To: elpadre; The Magical Mischief Tour; nuconvert

No surprise here.
>Where is NASA headquartered? Houston, TEXAS

>Where are oil refineries idle because of Obama’s drilling moratorium? TEXAS

> What state was about burned off the map from wildfires before Obama f-i-n-a-l-l-y deigned to declare it a disaster area? TEXAS

> What are the voting proclivities of most TEXANS? Conservative.

> Who is thinking of a 2012 run against the Won? TEXAS governor Rick Perry.

> What state will be losing 1000s of jobs due to the end of the shuttle program? TEXAS

> What state has job growth and a booming economy which daily makes a fool of Obama? TEXAS.

Muzzle? Screw up the entire NASA program? If it will hurt Texas, Obama will do it. Texas must pay for being the stinkin’ thorn in Obie’s side - for showing Obie to be the marxist America-hating fool he is - for being a huge obstacle to Obie’s plan for mandatory States’ Submission to His Wonderfulness. Texas must pay for showing the rest of the nation that capitalism works and socialism fails. Obie says, “BAD Texas! BAD, BAD, BAD!”


27 posted on 07/12/2011 4:20:11 PM PDT by GGMac ((lesson learned re Obie: parse every sentence, every word, every gesture, every photo))
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To: GGMac

AND...Texans must pay for being happy , proud Americans!


28 posted on 07/12/2011 4:21:40 PM PDT by GGMac ((lesson learned re Obie: parse every sentence, every word, every gesture, every photo))
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Yes a framacated design with a bunch of solid rocket boosters bolted to it could be worked up quickly.


29 posted on 07/12/2011 4:29:45 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

...whole lotta Gs on the way with propulsion systems in future launches. Women and dirty, old men affected most. ...propulsion systems that started development a long time ago, BTW.


30 posted on 07/12/2011 4:36:26 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: cripplecreek
Calling Capt. Sisko!


31 posted on 07/12/2011 4:44:29 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Mitt Romney makes Nelson Rockefeller look like Ronald Reagan. NO MITT 2012.)
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32 posted on 07/12/2011 4:55:23 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: cripplecreek

We all need some money brought into our districts, and these people are our ombudsmen. All we should really ask, is that it be reasonable and above board.

As for keeping it minimalist, and doing whatever you can in your own district, that gets my blessing.

Roads, bridges, other infrastructure sometimes requires federal dollars. If locals can find a way to do that too, excellent.

I honestly think that’s what we should be shooting for, so my opening may have been a bit too forgiving.


33 posted on 07/12/2011 5:26:46 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (F me, you, everybody, the new Dem/Pubie compromise. No debt reduction, + wild spending forever...)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Falcon Heavy
34 posted on 07/12/2011 5:33:19 PM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: Gen.Blather
A simple example would be the F111 swing wing fighter bomber. One group wanted a fighter, which mean small, agile, maneuverable and fast. Another group wanted a bomber.

Not quite (it was worse)

The airforce wanted an aircraft, nominally a "fighter". whose real purpose was to sit in a bunker in West Germany, until Der Tag. When it would head out, easterly, just above the tree tops, carrying what the military likes to call a "special store" in its belly. This said a big heavy aircraft with the structure strength and fuel load to punch through the thick turbulent air at ground level.

The navy's fighter actually had to carry a far heavier load of six Phoenix missiles up to altitude, then cruise around slowly, burning as little fuel as possible.

Result, a big heavy aircraft (too big to operate off carriers) with an engine originally planned for a mid-50s commercial jet. Not a happy marriage.

35 posted on 07/12/2011 6:30:30 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Monarchy is the one system of government where power is exercised for the good of all - Aristotle)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

No kidding.
If you lay all the NASA managers end-to-end, they still won't reach a decision!

36 posted on 07/12/2011 7:14:52 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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