Skip to comments.Norquist: Time to Force Obama’s Hand (Commenting on McConnell's new proposal
Posted on 07/12/2011 3:41:15 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform, says he supports Minority Leader Mitch McConnell's "contingency plan" designed to force President Obama to assume nearly all of the responsibility for raising the debt ceiling.
"Obama is playing politics," Norquist tells National Review Online in an interview. "Republicans need to force him to do what the established press is not doing. He says hes got a serious proposal. Could we see it written down please?"
McConnells plan would require the president to submit, in detail, a list of spending cuts of equal or greater value than the amount of debt increase he is requesting (about $2.5 trillion). "Obama wants to claim to the American people that he's seriously willing to reduce spending and hes not seriously taxing everybody and his brother," Norquist says. "He's lying. Its time to end this fiction that hes negotiating in good faith. Theyve got to force him to put in writing what the hell he thinks hes doing."
He blames the "established press" for allowing the president to get away with putting out a horrendous budget earlier this year, and allowing Senate Democrats to get away with having gone more than 800 days without even passing a budget. Members of the media and their Democratic cohorts, he says, have convinced themselves that Republicans will eventually cave and agree to raise taxes, as they did in 1982 and 1990. But they are perilously mistaken. "Most the people around in 82 and 90 are dead now!" he exclaims. "That's a long time ago. Democrats think because MSNBC says we've got them on the ropes, that Republicans will fold and raise taxes. Theyre nuts."
If some of you think Norquist is right, that this is good politicking, well that's your call. I think this is spin.
Spin. It will still give Obama all the spending he wants.
Obama will spend it all, and then some. He will declare himself a hero, and the MSM will crown him.
Spin doesn’t begin to describe this.
I’m tired of all this flim flam BS.
Just cut the budget, lower taxes and run my government efficiently.
These people act like little kids fighting over some trivial thing when the whole problem could be cured with some common sense.
McConnell’s proposal wouldn’t suck quite as much if it weren’t for the 2/3rds vote thing.
And there's gotta be a vetting process on the spending cuts. Else this will end like last time where there were 300+ million dollars of cuts that ended up being 33 million once the mirrors were broken and the smoke blew away.
And the spending cuts should happen in the next year or so. NOT be spread out over 10 years. Like that's gonna happen. Next lie?
Norquist and McConnells are RINOS
GOP Leadership Fights for Taxpayers
If democrats want to raise the EPA budget by 20% but they only get to raise it by 10%, they call the other 10% a cut.
This just ought to be rich.
But beyond all that, this is a dire situation for the country and Norquist and McConnell at best are playing semantic games. At worst, they have committed a tragic blunder. They have no strategy and no sense of how to explain a strategy if they could come up with one. Why have they not passed legislation in the House, for example, which would purport to compel Obama to pay the nation's debts first and are soldiers 2nd and are Social Security recipients 3rd? There is plenty of money to cover these items. Let Obama veto such a bill. Or let Harry Reid ignore it to death in the Senate. But at least the Republicans are on record and a will be ahead in the blame game which seems to be so important now to McConnell.
After the legislation goes through there will be no way that the Republicans can marshal enough votes to control Obama's spending. This is about the stupidest ploy one can imagine. God help us if Obama simply takes McConnell up on this and produces a bogus list. At that point, the Republicans will have shot their bolt and the country will go into a Marxist vortex, just what Obama wants.
Exactly. McConnell is saying.....okay I give up, let Obama spend all the money he wants cause he will pay for it later.
The problem is the consequences. The American public is not looking at this as politics.
Sure does look a lot like TARP 2, 3 and 4, doesn’t it?
Barry gets a checkbook, a line of credit, and can apply for loans by making executive promises, which of course will be waived and all blamed on the Bush depression of 2012.
This is certainly not how this proposal has been described. What stands out is that it takes a supermajority to stop his debt limit increases regardless. He could do the same creative accounting he did with HC reform and keep the debt limit going through the roof for the rest of his term. I don’t think McConnell understands the ultimate goal of this. Instead he has managed to make himself and Republicans look like transparent fools.
I lost most respect for Grover years ago. He’s a one trick pony.
Mitch is nuts.
Why not propose eliminating the House of Representatives while he`s at it.
“It is with a heavy heart therefore, that I am posting this article, which is the most complete documentation extant of Grover Norquists activities in behalf of the Islamist Fifth Column. I have confronted Grover about these issues and have talked to others who have done likewise. But it has been left to Frank Gaffney and a few others, including Daniel Pipes and Steven Emerson, to make the case and to suffer the inevitable recriminations that have followed earlier disclosures of some aspects of this story.”
What most people here don’t understand, is Norquist plan is NOT about SAVING the country, it’s about regaining power, no matter what the cost. It’s not about principle, it’s about power.