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Democrats and the Social Security Trust Fund Lie Exposed today
see links in thread ^ | July 12, 2011 | Reid/Obama quotes

Posted on 07/12/2011 8:25:51 PM PDT by sickoflibs

This has been one of my favorite subjects for years but today Democrats exposed themselves on it with the threat over the debt limit. Start with Democrat Senate Majority leader Harry Reid.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) on Monday disputed warnings that Social Security is headed for bankruptcy, calling those assertions an “outright lie.” And he says the huge federal entitlement program has not added “one penny” to the federal deficit.
Sen. Harry Reid Misleads on Social Security Financing , Tuesday, (March 29, 2011 CNS)

OK, so Social Security does not add one penny, not one! If that is the case then this must be explained:

President Obama on Tuesday said he cannot guarantee that retirees will receive their Social Security checks August 3 if Democrats and Republicans in Washington do not reach an agreement on reducing the deficit in the coming weeks. “I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3rd if we haven't resolved this issue. Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it,” Mr. Obama said in an interview with CBS Evening News anchor Scott Pelley, according to excerpts released by CBS News.
Obama says he cannot guarantee Social Security checks will go out on August 3, (July 12, 2011 CBS News)

Anyone (besides me) think to ask Democrats how raising the debt ceiling is required to make Social Security payments when they are claiming it doesn’t add a penny to the national Debt? Don’t worry. Congressional Republicans appear tied to the imaginary $2T SS trust fund too because that allows them to delay spending cuts until the distant future, you know when the imaginary trust fund runs out? So they are not ratting out Obama and Reid on it.

A tutorial for those new to the issue.
Video: A Liberal Democrat explains the why the Social Security Trust Fund is safe


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KEYWORDS: debt; deficit; deficits; entitlements; socialsecurity; taxes
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I was screaming when I saw this today. I called a number of Republican congressional offices today to explain the above.
1 posted on 07/12/2011 8:26:00 PM PDT by sickoflibs
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To: sickoflibs

Rubio said the same thing today on Rush’s show. Obama is admitting that we have to borrow money in order to pay SS benefits along with veteran’s benefits, etc.


2 posted on 07/12/2011 8:27:42 PM PDT by kabar
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To: tcrlaf; La Enchiladita; Vermont Lt; stephenjohnbanker; arista; cookcounty; sam_paine; Cheetahcat; ..

I had to mark this one for history! Remember this day!


3 posted on 07/12/2011 8:32:22 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: sickoflibs

Amazing. People think the social security money is in a lock box. The reason Obama is “putting social security on the table” is this. The RATS can no longer take the excess social security taxes and spend it. There is less tax coming in than going out. Now social security is a drain on the slush fund. Meaning it reduces the amount of money they can use for their schemes. It has got to go. They will throw Granny under the bus without blinking an eye. The evil GOP is in the strange position of trying to save a Socialist Program. Pathetic. Is it not.


4 posted on 07/12/2011 8:32:50 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: sickoflibs

I thought there was a trust fund. That’s what they keep saying. Okay, then spend money from the fund. LMAO


5 posted on 07/12/2011 8:46:29 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ( Obama, from "the Audacity of Hope" to just plain audacity...)
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To: DoughtyOne; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; calcowgirl; ...
RE :”I thought there was a trust fund. That’s what they keep saying. Okay, then spend money from the fund. LMAO

Naw, it got spent as soon as it came in that is how government works. They left an worthless IOU to themselves that Dems actually call US bonds.

I got an idea, you hear of the Ryan plan? this is the SOL plan : Instead of delaying cuts 10 years and letting the ‘imaginary’ trust fund empty by the time we retire, cut benefits now and save the imaginary trust fund until we retire and so we get our FULL benefits. It's imaginary (meaning worthless IOUs to themselves) so it doesnt matter when we spend it.

At this point I agree to any plan that spares me, given they cant fess up.

6 posted on 07/12/2011 9:03:58 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: sickoflibs

Need to parse!

I don’t know.

Does the $14 trillion federal debt include the value of all the social security funding that has been diverted to the current spending account, all of the IOU’s that are held by the SS administration against the Federal Government???

Now, we all know that whenever there is less SS tax collected than is disbursed, the SS fund needs to cash in one of its many IOU’s, asking for cash that the FED doesn’t have. And Zer0, the rats and the pubbies have even succumbed to rape current SS inflows by collecting less SS taxes in 2011 for some idiotic program to add $10 dollars to the non income tax-payers net payroll check.

So, does this immediate SS payout cash need increase the Federal deficit? Or is it an intergovernmental transaction that is met by speeding up the Department of Engraving printing presses??

In any event, cash needs to be provided from somewhere, ‘cause there ain’t no lockbox; there ain’t no Federal cash sitting in Ft. Knox; we’re borrowing 40% of the Federal expenditures from somewhere, so somehow the payout of SS is impacting cash flow, regardless of Obamanaomics, Goreisms, or Bushites.

Which of you can help to explain Governmental accounting??


7 posted on 07/12/2011 9:04:42 PM PDT by Noob1999
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To: sickoflibs

Need to parse!

I don’t know.

Does the $14 trillion federal debt include the value of all the social security funding that has been diverted to the current spending account, all of the IOU’s that are held by the SS administration against the Federal Government???

Now, we all know that whenever there is less SS tax collected than is disbursed, the SS fund needs to cash in one of its many IOU’s, asking for cash that the FED doesn’t have. And Zer0, the rats and the pubbies have even succumbed to rape current SS inflows by collecting less SS taxes in 2011 for some idiotic program to add $10 dollars to the non income tax-payers net payroll check.

So, does this immediate SS payout cash need increase the Federal deficit? Or is it an intergovernmental transaction that is met by speeding up the Department of Engraving printing presses??

In any event, cash needs to be provided from somewhere, ‘cause there ain’t no lockbox; there ain’t no Federal cash sitting in Ft. Knox; we’re borrowing 40% of the Federal expenditures from somewhere, so somehow the payout of SS is impacting cash flow, regardless of Obamanaomics, Goreisms, or Bushites.

Which of you can help to explain Governmental accounting??


8 posted on 07/12/2011 9:04:59 PM PDT by Noob1999
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To: LMAO; DeaconBenjamin; April Lexington; murphE; RipSawyer; Tunehead54; preacher; 1234; coloradan; ...

‘I been waiting for this’ ping!

enjoy!


9 posted on 07/12/2011 9:10:16 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: sickoflibs

Until this year, Social Security took in more money than it paid out.


10 posted on 07/12/2011 9:12:40 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog
RE :"Until this year, Social Security took in more money than it paid out."

From the sources I posted here it started some running deficits in early 2009 when unemployment skyrocketed, then December-January this year FICA tax got cut and it went in deep red.

I was posting that FICA was the stupidist tax to cut, esp if you can only cut one tax. Yet Dems stick to their talking points about it paying for itself.

11 posted on 07/12/2011 9:29:55 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: screaminsunshine
What's pathetic is the number of people in this country who have been reduced to government dependents. They no longer control their financial future. It is in the hands of the government and the mere suggestion by Obama that their next check may not be sent out will result in many of them demanding their representatives give Obama what he wants regardless of the future cost.

It doesn't matter that they paid into Social Security all of their lives. The government spent the money and gave nothing more than a promise to pay it back in the future (if you are still alive and if they have the money to pay you).

The liberal media will ignore Obama's FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt) tactics. It's the evil Republicans who want to push grandma off the cliff, not Obama. The fact that the debt limit will be exceeded again and again while current taxpayers SS money is spent on other political giveaways to buy more votes is just accepted as business as usual for the socialists in DC.

12 posted on 07/12/2011 9:33:01 PM PDT by eggman (Presidential Rejection - Nov. 6, 2012. The end of an error.)
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To: Noob1999
Does the $14 trillion federal debt include the value of all the social security funding that has been diverted to the current spending account, all of the IOU’s that are held by the SS administration against the Federal Government???

Short answer, yes. The $14 trillion number includes public and private (IOU) debt combined. It's called private debt, but it just refers to money that the government owes itself.
13 posted on 07/12/2011 9:40:05 PM PDT by andyk (Interstate != Intrastate)
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To: eggman

And what really burns my ass is this. I and I bet you too did every thing I could to get the House back. And now Bitch McConnell stabs me in the back at the time he should validate my effort. I have been fooled time and again by the GOP. Only out of fear of the RATS. This is the last straw. But I am just one little vote.


14 posted on 07/12/2011 9:41:09 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: Noob1999
RE :”Does the $14 trillion federal debt include the value of all the social security funding that has been diverted to the current spending account, all of the IOU’s that are held by the SS administration against the Federal Government???

The $ 14T is $11T in real debt and $3T in SS IOUs, I read someplace anyway. But we know SS will run through more than than 3T eventually so it's not like it's not going to cost that. Cutting SS and medicare would be like a congressman caught child molesting, in voters eyes, it seems,I also hear claims there is a Medicare trust fund.

RE “So, does this immediate SS payout cash need increase the Federal deficit? Or is it an intergovernmental transaction that is met by speeding up the Department of Engraving printing presses??

That is the reason I posted this thread links. Regardless of who buys the US treasuries (Fed or investors) now, it's still National debt as shown here in this Obama threat to cut it off,

I appreciate the interest. Before I did the video above I used to do blog posts on the SS scam.

15 posted on 07/12/2011 9:44:34 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: Noob1999
It is called a unified budget. The fed controls the amount of money in circulation. In the old days they printed it. Now it's a line of text.
16 posted on 07/12/2011 9:50:19 PM PDT by Domangart
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To: sickoflibs

PING


17 posted on 07/12/2011 9:52:03 PM PDT by freejohn ("Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." --- Mark Twain)
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To: sickoflibs

What ever happened to the good ole
US Savings Bonds? Dufuss Carter cancelled the program. Maybe US BONDS should be bought back?

One more for thought.....

HOW ABOUT 10% REDUCTION OF ALL GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES AND THE ELIMINATION OF UNNECESSARY DEPARTMENTS?


18 posted on 07/12/2011 10:02:20 PM PDT by hapnHal (hapnHal)
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To: grey_whiskers

This one was more fun than that slaughterhouse we were posting on, I got Dems nailed here.


19 posted on 07/12/2011 10:17:01 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: sickoflibs

If we have to raise the debt limit to pay social security
that PROVES there is no Social Security trust fund. We have to borrow money just to pay one month of Social Security. That proves it is a ponzi scheme.
And that’s the fault of the democrats. Shout it far and wide!


20 posted on 07/12/2011 10:53:49 PM PDT by Mr. Right Now (This proves SS is a ponzi scheme!)
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To: hapnHal
HOW ABOUT 10% REDUCTION OF ALL GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES AND THE ELIMINATION OF UNNECESSARY DEPARTMENTS?

The Executive Branch, the Legistative Branch, and the Judicial Branch have become unnecessary during the last few years. I say clean sweep and start over again.

21 posted on 07/12/2011 11:02:47 PM PDT by bgill
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To: bgill
The Executive Branch, the Legistative Branch, and the Judicial Branch have become unnecessary during the last few years.

Correct, they are not needed, because we have a king, or soon will have once the political class give absolute power to the executive, as Mitch boy is now trying to do on spending.

22 posted on 07/13/2011 12:18:30 AM PDT by itsahoot (Fair warning--I will vote for Palin, if I have to write her in. --He that hath an ear, let him hear.)
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To: sickoflibs

“Social Security and Medicare are criminal ponzi schemes”
-Ann Barnhardt
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxxnhvufO_I beginning at 2:17)

Ponzi Scheme:
http://www.sec.gov/answers/ponzi.htm

The elite are depending on our continued stupidity...
... and the establishment right have membership.

Despite the disdain I’ve seen spewwed her on FR about GOOOH, it’s something along those lines that is necessary for us to regain our country (and I do agree that time-tested principles


23 posted on 07/13/2011 12:24:12 AM PDT by plsjr (<>< ... HIS will be done! (http://NewSpring.cc/webservice - Biblical Nourishment))
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To: plsjr

... are critical to right us.


24 posted on 07/13/2011 12:25:31 AM PDT by plsjr (<>< ... HIS will be done! (http://NewSpring.cc/webservice - Biblical Nourishment))
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks sickoflibs.


25 posted on 07/13/2011 2:59:33 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: sickoflibs

Both Parties have been doing it for decades. And that’s why neither Party will be critical of the theft.


26 posted on 07/13/2011 3:37:50 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: hapnHal

Careful now.

With Obama, Democraps, and our own RINOs... that would most likely mean the elimination of the Deparment of Defense.


27 posted on 07/13/2011 3:59:24 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Noob1999

Which of you can help to explain Governmental accounting??

I liken it to MOB accounting or trucking accounting, or illegal accounting. There is a whole lot of accounting going on but it takes twice as long as legal accounting, because one has to have two sets of books. One set for the regulators and auditors, and another set so you know who has done what with the cash, or in the case of truckers, with the time. With all respect to truckers, who in many cases, have been driven to it (no pun intended) by the whim of government. It boils down to this, everyone knows where the cash is or what it is spent on, they just can’t tell the ones coming up with the cash, or there would be hell to pay.

Hopefully now the second set of books are open and there will now be hell to pay.


28 posted on 07/13/2011 4:52:43 AM PDT by wita
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To: sickoflibs
Quote seen on another forum message board:

"If the Social Security Administration takes in $45 billion a month, why won't Obama be able to pay out the $23 billion owed to Social Security recipients from the Trust Fund in August?"

http://www.ssa.gov/oact/progdata/taxquery.html

Rude questions you can ask your Lefty associates & family.

Rude questions the Obama-loving media will NEVER ask...

29 posted on 07/13/2011 4:58:39 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: hapnHal

HOW ABOUT 10% REDUCTION OF ALL GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES AND THE ELIMINATION OF UNNECESSARY DEPARTMENTS?

Double the percentage in the first year and I’m on board. Although, one needs to be careful here as I believe military are government employees.


30 posted on 07/13/2011 4:59:33 AM PDT by wita
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To: screaminsunshine
People think the social security money is in a lock box.

Tis cuz Algore said it

31 posted on 07/13/2011 5:33:05 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the Constitution, always. Allegiance to a party, never!)
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To: sickoflibs

Bingo.

Some time ago I had to argue against a hardcore Leftist who sent me the following list (from MoveOn); of course, I was somehow wrong...

...but today I return the list to him, and a copy of the Obama’s quote. ‘nuff said.


(Excerpted; more details at link)

Social Security is under attack and we need to fight back against the lies.

Have you heard that Social Security is going bankrupt? Driving up the deficit? In crisis?

Well none of that is true. These are all myths that opponents of Social Security have been spreading to scare people into accepting benefit cuts this fall. But the myths are taking hold—so we have to fight back with the facts.

So we’ve put together a list of the top five myths about Social Security, along with the real story. Can you check out the list and then share it with your friends, family, and coworkers?

Share the list by going to http://pol.moveon.org/ssmyths?id=22141-1314703-FHBvhOx&t=1 ...

Top 5 Social Security Myths

Myth #1: Social Security is going broke.

Reality: There is no Social Security crisis. By 2023, Social Security will have a $4.6 trillion surplus (yes, trillion with a ‘T’). It can pay out all scheduled benefits for the next quarter-century with no changes whatsoever. ...

Myth #2: We have to raise the retirement age because people are living longer.

Reality: This is a red-herring to trick you into agreeing to benefit cuts. ...

Myth #3: Benefit cuts are the only way to fix Social Security.

Reality: Social Security doesn’t need to be fixed. ...

Myth #4: The Social Security Trust Fund has been raided and is full of IOUs

Reality: Not even close to true. The Social Security Trust Fund isn’t full of IOUs, it’s full of U.S. Treasury Bonds. ...

Myth #5: Social Security adds to the deficit

Reality: It’s not just wrong—it’s impossible! By law, Social Security’s funds are separate from the budget, and it must pay its own way. That means that Social Security can’t add one penny to the deficit.

Defeating these myths is the first step to stopping Social Security cuts. Can you share this list now?


32 posted on 07/13/2011 5:51:22 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: ctdonath2

Bookmark


33 posted on 07/13/2011 5:57:05 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: ctdonath2
RE :"from Move-on: Social Security is under attack and we need to fight back against the lies. Have you heard that Social Security is going bankrupt? Driving up the deficit? In crisis? Well none of that is true. These are all myths that opponents of Social Security have been spreading to scare people into accepting benefit cuts this fall. But the myths are taking hold—so we have to fight back with the facts."

I watch MSNBC about the same amount as FNC and they repeat that Alie LL the time, That is why I created the video at the bottom of this thread body to show how stupid it is. And I couldnt wait for this moment either. Priceless!

34 posted on 07/13/2011 6:04:31 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: Gondring

Just in case you are not on my ping list, this one I did last night.


35 posted on 07/13/2011 6:33:06 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: sickoflibs

Yeah, it sure got spent somewhere didn’t it.


36 posted on 07/13/2011 6:37:36 AM PDT by DoughtyOne ( Obama, from "the Audacity of Hope" to just plain audacity...)
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To: DoughtyOne; sickoflibs

” I thought there was a trust fund. That’s what they keep saying. Okay, then spend money from the fund. LMAO “

LOL!

Good job, SOL!


37 posted on 07/13/2011 6:55:34 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: sickoflibs

Be Sure this gets passed on to your Military friends. I personally will be boycotting Walgreen’s. We are retired Military.

It is the beginning of the destruction of our health care system under 0’care. Docs and hospitals will be next.

Walgreens to Drop TRICARE? (THIS IS A NO POST per COPYRIGHT RULES)

military.com/military-report/walgreens-to-drop-tricare

Navy to Cut Jobs Amid Recession-Driven Sailor Surplus
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/07/08/navy-to-cut-jobs-amid-recession-driven-sailor-surplus/

They are going after the mid ranks just a couple of years short of retirement, not the top brass. Our Navy Base when it was a training facility had 1 admiral, now that it is a records keeping base for the entire US Navy, it has 14 admirals, 13 to many.


38 posted on 07/13/2011 7:28:32 AM PDT by GailA (NO DEMOCRATS, NO RINOS in 2012!)
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To: sickoflibs
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39 posted on 07/13/2011 7:33:36 AM PDT by Cyber Ninja
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To: sickoflibs; M. Espinola; Quix; Whenifhow; stephenjohnbanker; TruthConquers; blam; ...
Vladimir Putin Calls Bernanke A Hooligan, Angry At American Money Printing !

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/vladimir-putin-says-bernanke-hooligan-angry-american-money-prining

"They are behaving like hooligans, switching on the printing press and tossing them around the whole world, forgetting their main obligations . . ."

I happen to agree with Putin on his characterization of the crooked Bernanke. Grrenspan was even worse in my opinion. But I do not agree with what Putin goes on to say in his full quote.

IMHO -- Greenspan and Bernanke are only shills for the private banking cartel that controls our monetary system and uses a massive debt system for profits to print our phony currency

40 posted on 07/13/2011 7:43:52 AM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: ex-Texan
RE :”IMHO — Greenspan and Bernanke are only shills for the private banking cartel that controls our monetary system and uses a massive debt system for profits to print our phony currency

He is just repeating what Schiff, Faber and Rogers have been saying (accurately) for many years and what Palin, Rush and other Republicans picked up on and pointed out last year.

Putin wishes he could get away with it like we do. He has his own agenda.

41 posted on 07/13/2011 7:57:29 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: ex-Texan

YUP


42 posted on 07/13/2011 9:40:13 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: sickoflibs

You called this one...


43 posted on 07/13/2011 10:38:32 AM PDT by GOPJ (Honk if I'm paying for your car, your mortgage, and your big, fat Greek bailout - mewzilla)
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To: GOPJ
RE :”You called this one...”

Thanks

I been warning they would do this for a while, but Monday (before Obama even said this) it came to me that Democrats would be exposing their BIG LIE when they did this and I pinged that thought on Monday one day before.

More-so another reason why Congressional Republicans wont expose this came to me too. I explain it in the body of the post.

Politics is a tough game and been pretty good at staying ahead of Democrats next moves.

44 posted on 07/13/2011 10:49:20 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: kabar

All of which would not be necessary if the Government hadn’t taken money out of SS for “more worthy projects”, yu know just “borrowing” the money.

How about we quit sending billions of dollars a year to countries that detest and despise the US. Then we wouldn’t have to worry about SS going under.


45 posted on 07/13/2011 1:13:24 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: GOPJ; sickoflibs; Quix; M. Espinola; Whenifhow; stephenjohnbanker; TruthConquers; blam
What Happened to the $2.6 Trillion Social Security Trust Fund __?

Excerpt:

* * * [Co]lumnist Charles Krauthammer wrote a subsequent column questioning [the assertion that there is a $ 2.6 Trillion social security trust fund

“This claim is a breathtaking fraud. The pretense is that a flush trust fund will pay retirees for the next 26 years. Lovely, except for one thing: The Social Security trust fund is a fiction. … In other words, the Social Security trust fund contains—nothing.”


46 posted on 07/13/2011 4:55:51 PM PDT by ex-Texan (Ecclesiastes 5:10 - 20)
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To: ex-Texan

The Marxist/globalists

have been playing a supremely treasonous and insulting

SHELL GAME

with the skulls of the sheeple

for decades . . .

And the sheeple have been cooperating by playing the role of pea-brained slaves.


47 posted on 07/13/2011 5:10:00 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: ex-Texan; GOPJ; sickoflibs; Quix; M. Espinola; Whenifhow; TruthConquers; blam; DoughtyOne

” The Social Security trust fund is a fiction. … In other words, the Social Security trust fund contains—nothing.”

I think sickoflibs outlined this very clearly a day or two ago ;-)


48 posted on 07/13/2011 7:12:50 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; ex-Texan; GOPJ; Quix; M. Espinola; Whenifhow; TruthConquers; blam; DoughtyOne
RE :” The Social Security trust fund is a fiction. … In other words, the Social Security trust fund contains—nothing.....I think sickoflibs outlined this very clearly a day or two ago ;-)

A day or two??? How about the thread (body) you are posting on here that I posted last night (during the big McCain debate LOL) ??? Doesnt the title say something about a 'lie' ??

you guys... :)

49 posted on 07/13/2011 7:21:17 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: sickoflibs

Sorry on the time line. My big toe on my right foot decided to terrorize me with pain. I ain’t myself the last 2 days ;-)

O U C H


50 posted on 07/13/2011 7:24:15 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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