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State programmer identifies template for Obama 'forgery'
WND ^ | July 12, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 07/12/2011 9:39:04 PM PDT by opentalk

High-level engineer demonstrates how Nordyke birth certificates used.

A prominent software engineer claims the Obama birth certificate released by the White House was forged by using as templates the birth certificates of twins born in Hawaii one day after the president.

The engineer, a high-level programmer for a state government, spoke on condition of anonymity...

.... He believes forgers used the registration numbers of the birth certificates belonging to Gretchen and Susan Nordyke, 10637 and 10638, to create the Obama birth certificate number, 10641.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: 10641; birthcertificate; birther; birthers; certifigate; dnc; eligibility; enemywithin; forgery; fraud; hawaii; hoaxhucksterbrother; hopespringseternal; howarddean; identityfraud; lucyhazfootball; naturalborncitizen; nordyketwins; nwo; obama; palin; pelosi; sorosmafia; sorospuppet; thistimeforsure; usurper; worldnutdaily
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To: Blado

ummm - he does not have the full resources of anything - for the purpose of producing a forgery.

Think about it - What is he going to do, send out an RFP to find the most qualified forgers in the CIA?

Obama and friends/lawyers would have to stay within a very tight loop- if they were going to create a forgery.


101 posted on 07/13/2011 7:54:35 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: opentalk
The engineer, a high-level programmer for a state government, spoke on condition of anonymity...

What would a Corsi conspiracy be without the mysterious stranger lurking in the inky shadows.

102 posted on 07/13/2011 7:55:43 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: ILS21R
Didn't Trump say that the released BC was forged? Some team player. I listened to Trump being interviewed by Rush awhile back. The only thing Trump hates more than obama is China.

Did he say it was forged? I missed it. He sure has been quiet about it, hasn't he! I guess he no longer has any way to get his message out. (There was a WND story that suggested that Trump thought BC II was a fake, but it was in the nature of a phone call Trump made to Corsi which seemed to me more of a effort to find out just how much Corsi really knew about the April 27 release.)

Look. I was taken in by his, "This country can be great again" rhetoric. But his silence in the face of this forgery is just too much given his sudden and intense focus on the issue just prior to April 27. Funny how all that rhetoric evaporated too.

Trump is the cur that didn't bark.

ML/NJ

103 posted on 07/13/2011 7:56:50 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj
I always wondered if NBC offering Trump $160 million contract and maybe behind the scenes discussions were influential in having him fade away on the BC issue and Obama's mystery background.

Executives at NBC parent recently raised $1.2 million for Obama.

104 posted on 07/13/2011 8:11:22 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: ml/nj
Did he say it was forged? I missed it. He sure has been quiet about it, hasn't he! I guess he no longer has any way to get his message out.

Who knows? But, for you to be correct, Trump would have to know that obama had this POS BC ready to be released. Being the "team player" that he was. I mean... you wouldn't expect trump to ask for it if he didn't know obama already had it. Perhaps Trump didn't know how poorly crafted the BC really was. I suppose that is possible.

In any event Trump's work (knowingly or unknowingly) is done. Anybody that can fog a mirror can tell that the BC is a complete fabrication.

105 posted on 07/13/2011 8:19:58 AM PDT by ILS21R ("Every night before I go to sleep, I think who would throw stones at me?", she said.)
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To: opentalk
"To transform the '3' into a '4' took a multiple-step process," he explained.

I'm sure it did, but only in this "expert's" imagination and creative use of MSPaint (what, did this expert not have Photoshop or even GIMP?)

the numbers 61 and 106 appear to match in size, positioning and spacing the numbers on the Nordyke twins' birth certificates.

Yeah, that tends to happen with rubber stamps.

106 posted on 07/13/2011 8:26:39 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: Kleon
Yeah, that tends to happen with rubber stamps.

And with numbers that don't need to be changed. What's the matter? Are the DU and HuffNPuff servers down?

107 posted on 07/13/2011 8:32:10 AM PDT by ILS21R ("Every night before I go to sleep, I think who would throw stones at me?", she said.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
DEEP THROAT = FUZZY PIXEL

The Answer is in the Fat Governor's Black Berry ....

108 posted on 07/13/2011 8:38:16 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: RaceBannon

“If it had no traction, it wouldn’t be news and people wouldn’t be talking about it.”

By that logic, the fact that people are still questioning the moon landing after 40 years means that there must really be traction to their arguments.

And anyone who thinks moon landing conspiracy theorists are stupid but that WND’s experts should be taken seriously ought to go look at some moon hoax websites. You’ll find lots of experts arguing that anomalies in the images prove that the pictures are faked, and that the government is covering up the fakery. Sound familiar?


109 posted on 07/13/2011 8:41:46 AM PDT by Vickery2010
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To: Vickery2010
And anyone who thinks moon landing conspiracy theorists are stupid but that WND’s experts should be taken seriously ought to go look at some moon hoax websites. You’ll find lots of experts arguing that anomalies in the images prove that the pictures are faked, and that the government is covering up the fakery. Sound familiar?

faked .pdf = faked moon landing?

Put down the pipe. You've had enough.

110 posted on 07/13/2011 8:46:49 AM PDT by ILS21R ("Every night before I go to sleep, I think who would throw stones at me?", she said.)
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To: Vickery2010
I have 30 years experience with printing, computers, programming, microprocessors and computer electrical engineering.

I can't for the life of me explain how the check boxes could end up with identical pixel configuration. To me, it's impossible unless they were copied and pasted.

Can anyone explain this, how these check boxes could be identical? The odds of this happening naturally must be 1 in 50 trillion.

If you look at the Nordyke check boxes, the same boxes from the same positions differ between the two separate “Twin” documents. When Paper and ink from the 1961 era are mated, you may get variables that provide distinctive differences with every printed copy. It's not happening with all the check boxes in the Obama Document. This seems impossible to me.

If someone could tell me how this could happen naturally, please do so. I would love to hear it.

111 posted on 07/13/2011 9:08:50 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: ILS21R
And with numbers that don't need to be changed.

And with rubber stamps. Which they used.

112 posted on 07/13/2011 9:09:02 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: Kleon
Let's get down to basics.

Obama has had every opportunity to fully and completely clarify, in a clear and straight forward manner, the issue of his natural born citizenship, and his citizenship in general. A **real** natural born citizen of the United States of America would have absolutely no trouble doing that!

A **real** natural born citizen would be **HONORED** to promptly prove with the very best evidence that he was eligible to be president and the Commander in Chief who would send men and women to their deaths in battle.

Obama has consistently posted crap! There is no way to explain that away.

113 posted on 07/13/2011 9:19:09 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Elendur
On EVERY document from 1958-1962, Obama Sr put his DOB as 1934. He only changed his DOB AFTER that.

...but those documents weren’t available until this a few months ago. so a modern forger, would only have seen the 1936 DOB, and put his age at 25.

I hate to mention it, but I recall seeing both dates on his immigration file documents. Also, in one, he lists Barry as his child, in another he doesn't list any children. All I can conclude from his using both the 1936 and 1934 dates of birth is that Obama Sr. was a goofy flake.

Just to make sure, I went and checked. On page 7,14,25,27, 29,31 etc. Barack lists his date of birth as 1936. On page 1,3,9,19,32,34 etc. He lists it as 1934.

See for yourself.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/54015762/Barack-Hussein-Obama-Sr-Immigration-File

Goofy Flake.

114 posted on 07/13/2011 9:20:28 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: Vickery2010

by your logic, there would actually BE people calling the moon landing fake, whereas there are MILLIONS of people and software experts calling the BC fake, NO one is calling the moon landing fake who has any credentials, so, debate much online? or is your mother away from the computer?


115 posted on 07/13/2011 9:21:55 AM PDT by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Maybe he didn’t know what year he was born, or maybe there is some other functional reason. Are there ways of categorizing the documents by date signed or what the document was for?


116 posted on 07/13/2011 9:22:59 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Elendur
On EVERY document from 1958-1962, Obama Sr put his DOB as 1934. He only changed his DOB AFTER that.

...but those documents weren’t available until this a few months ago. so a modern forger, would only have seen the 1936 DOB, and put his age at 25.

Okay, I re-read what you wrote. You may be right about every record prior to 1962 has the 1934 birth date on it, and every record AFTER 1962 has the 1936. Perhaps he was lying about his age because he thought immigration officials would be more sympathetic to a younger student? Hmmm...

Anyway, I took his 1936 date of birth on Barry's birth certificate as proof that Barack Sr. wasn't around when she was having the baby. I assumed Stanley Ann (or Grandma)put all the information on the birth certificate, and got the date of birth wrong, or perhaps he told her wrongly. The fact that there is no actual father's address listed is also a clue that Barack Sr. wasn't there.

Do you really think Barack Sr. cared about the birth of a kid (they were going to give away) enough to show up for it?

117 posted on 07/13/2011 9:30:31 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: PA-RIVER
If someone could tell me how this could happen naturally, please do so. I would love to hear it.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You will hear crickets.

There are two groups of people with whom I am especially upset: the conservative media and our highest military.

When did supporting, aiding, and ignoring fraud, forgery, possible usurpation of Commander in Chief, lying, and treachery become part of the military code of honor? Is this what they teach at West Point and the other military academies? Where is the evidence that our very highest military sought **peaceful** and legal certifiable clarification of Obama’s natural born citizenship from either congress or the courts? Honestly,...When our brave and honorable service men and women salute these highest ranking peacocks why aren't these admirals and generals struck with lightening?

The second group is the conservative media. I think it is unlikely that the whole bunch of them could conspire or be threatened into silence. Someone would be sure to break the wall of silence and reveal the conspiracy. Therefore...I conclude that the entire bunch of them are phony entertainers. Those who cry over the Constitution are actors crying crocodile tears. When true tyranny comes, they will sell their talents to the fascist oligarchy. They will spit shine the jack boots crushing our necks.

Our very highest military? The guys with the maximum amount of brass weighing them down? The yappers on talk radio and Fox? I trusted these guys! ( Silly me!)

118 posted on 07/13/2011 9:32:51 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: mylife
Christine Lagarde is from Chicago. I detect a trend. But lets count pixels instead of following the money.

I understand your points and your frustration, but this story is intriguing to many of us, and we would like to pull the actual truth out into the open at some point in the future. Were I to stumble across a piece of information that would help with the Debt/Deficit, or the Gunwalker fiasco, or any other Obama scandal, I would certainly do what I could to spread the word.

In the meantime, allow us to indulge our hobby. I enjoy imagining myself as being like Edgar Allen Poe solving the Murder of Mary Roget from across the Atlantic using nothing more than newspaper reports. If I hear a call for help (which I can render) on another issue, I will come a running. :)

119 posted on 07/13/2011 9:37:39 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: mylife
Poorly written, but my point is that they are about to rape us AGAIN and suddenly this Lagarde woman pops up to bolster the play.

And while that moment is red hot? We are counting pixels.

I am not counting pixels, I have long ago concluded that the document was created relatively recently. But other than complain to our reps, what would you have us do? I've already complained quite a lot. I no longer believe they have the best interests of our Country at heart, and I am referring to the Republican/Conservative Representatives and Senators.

Show me a better use of my time, and I may very well pursue it.

120 posted on 07/13/2011 9:42:20 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: cynwoody
It cannot be true unless the Hawaii Department of Health is in on it.

They know what's in their files. They know what they supposedly gave to Obama's lawyer/courier. And they know what he presented to the world.

Of COURSE they are "in" on it! It's my belief that Hawaiian Bureaucrats CREATED the D@mned thing! The amateurish characteristics of it point in that direction. I have no doubt that it reflects data which IS in their files. I just don't believe the record currently in their files is the actual truth. I believe Obama has been adopted at some point in his past, his original is sealed by court order, and what you see is a cobbled together reproduction of what the Judge ordered be placed upon the document, all made to resemble something from the 1960s.

121 posted on 07/13/2011 9:48:40 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: ILS21R

“faked .pdf = faked moon landing?”

faked pdf = faked moon landing photos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDdzNSXDaRI

At 1:45 you can even see a guy argue that two rocks in a photo are identical. Again, sound familiar?


122 posted on 07/13/2011 9:53:15 AM PDT by Vickery2010
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To: Blado
It’s a forgery. That’s obvious to anyone who has even rudimentary experience in computer graphics.

The big question is:

WHY WOULD OBAMA PUT OUT SUCH AN AMATEUR FORGERY?

Especially with the full resources of the CIA, FBI, NSA ... etc. available to him?

Obama didn't. That document is the product of Amateurs in the Hawaiian DOH Bureaucracy. I have a similarly fabricated document issued by my state. (I was adopted.)

123 posted on 07/13/2011 9:56:45 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: Blado
But here’s my point - Any 12 yr old computer geek could do a better job. He must be messing with us - muddying the water - stirring up subterfuge to divert attention... from what? The Natural Born Citizen requirement?

He's not messing with us. His staff really is just too incompetent to check the PDF file which they got from Hawaii for obvious glaring problems. Hawaiian bureaucrats fabricated that document, that's why they aren't calling foul on it. It is a court ordered replacement birth certificate for a child with sealed original records. (Just like mine.)

124 posted on 07/13/2011 10:01:42 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Of COURSE they are "in" on it! It's my belief that Hawaiian Bureaucrats CREATED the D@mned thing!

I applaud you, sir/madam. Most birthers pussyfoot around this issue, while you hit it head on.

125 posted on 07/13/2011 10:01:55 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: DiogenesLamp

Actually, the response should be, he doesn’t have or cannot afford to have a CIA, NSA or FBI department create a document for him because such would instantly prove he is a fraud and too many people would then have direct testimonial proof of it.’


126 posted on 07/13/2011 10:02:35 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: PA-RIVER

“I can’t for the life of me explain how the check boxes could end up with identical pixel configuration. To me, it’s impossible unless they were copied and pasted. Can anyone explain this, how these check boxes could be identical?”

Easy: they’re not identical. There is not identical pixel configuration.

Do you think your 30 years of experience is enough to do some overlays and opacity adjustments to see for yourself? Have you even bothered to check this? Or do you need me to provide you a motion graphic showing that they’re different?


127 posted on 07/13/2011 10:07:21 AM PDT by Vickery2010
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To: Neoliberalnot
I have little doubt that Obuttface is a fraud but the old media has killed the issue. It doesn’t matter if obama is unqualified and he has spent millions to cover the facts. He will remain in office and nobody and no power is going to do a damn thing about it. The WH and this band of criminals in power will not be dislodged because of bo’s phony birth cert. He and his attorney general will simply ignore inconvenient facts.

That may very well be true. However, I would very much like to discover unquestionable proof that Obama's birth credentials are defective so that I can push it into the faces of other conservatives who too quickly dismissed the issue with very little evidence to do so. Ann Coulter, Erick Erickson, etc. come to mind.

128 posted on 07/13/2011 10:10:41 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: Blado
myLife and his ilk come off sounding like deep cover trolls. Wonder how much Soros pays.

I have recently come to wonder if they are not agents of the RNC. Some of them write conservative opinions on other issues.

129 posted on 07/13/2011 10:12:32 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
What would a Corsi conspiracy be without the mysterious stranger lurking in the inky shadows.

Or you for that matter?

130 posted on 07/13/2011 10:18:53 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: RaceBannon

“by your logic, there would actually BE people calling the moon landing fake,”

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm

http://www.moonmovie.com/

George Noory, where Jerome Corsi is a regular guest, has featured people calling the moon landing fake.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2005/02/03
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2007/07/20
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2009/03/20

A broadcast network even ran a crappy conspiracy show asking if the moon landing was fake - http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

And polls show that about 6% of Americans doubt we landed on the moon.

So yeah, there ARE people saying the moon landing is fake. But don’t feel bad about your ignorance; if you’ve gotta be ignorant about something, the extent of other people’s crazy conspiracy theories is a good one. That’s how most Americans approach the theories that Obama forged his long-form birth certificate from online jpegs of some twins’ birth certificates and then convinced the Hawaii government to vouch for it and the entire Republican Party to accept it as valid.

But hey, you’ve got a guy who’s on George Noory and Alex Jones a lot. And nothing says ‘We’re not crazy’ like getting promoted on radio shows that talk about alien invasions and flouridation conspiracies.


131 posted on 07/13/2011 10:25:31 AM PDT by Vickery2010
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To: bvw
Maybe he didn’t know what year he was born, or maybe there is some other functional reason. Are there ways of categorizing the documents by date signed or what the document was for?

I have to apologize to Elendur. I didn't read his comment closely enough. He pointed out that prior to 1962, all Barack Sr.'s documents used the 1934 birth date, but after 1962, Barack Sr.'s documents used the 1936 birth date. A quick examination of the immigration files seems to confirm that. I didn't do a thorough one, but a quick check seems to hold with his statement.

132 posted on 07/13/2011 10:26:30 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: Vickery2010
At 1:45 you can even see a guy argue that two rocks in a photo are identical. Again, sound familiar?

So all of NASA was in on it? Is that what you're saying? Here's the only problem with your argument. The moon landings were real and obama's birth certificate is fake.

133 posted on 07/13/2011 10:29:02 AM PDT by ILS21R ("Every night before I go to sleep, I think who would throw stones at me?", she said.)
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To: Kleon
I applaud you, sir/madam. Most birthers pussyfoot around this issue, while you hit it head on.

And why not? I have the example of my own birth certificate. It doesn't seem unreasonable to me that State officials might fabricate one for someone else. It is a long standing practice in all of the states.

134 posted on 07/13/2011 10:32:53 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man

right - just like Corsi did with that Swift Boat stuff.

Please - The man (Dr. Corsi) is a national hero for saving us from a president Kerry.


135 posted on 07/13/2011 10:38:34 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: MHGinTN
Actually, the response should be, he doesn’t have or cannot afford to have a CIA, NSA or FBI department create a document for him because such would instantly prove he is a fraud and too many people would then have direct testimonial proof of it.’

There is that as well. But why make an illegal fraud when you can have a legal one? I think Barry was adopted. If not by Lolo Soetoro, then by his Grandparents in 1970 when Barack Sr. Came to visit coincidentally at the same time Stanley Ann was visiting from Indonesia. A few signatures, and Voilà! Stanley has the "Son" he always wanted. He certainly shows affection for the boy in that beach photo.

I have personally witnessed a signing over of custody before. It was all over in a couple of days.

136 posted on 07/13/2011 10:42:32 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: Vickery2010
And polls show that about 6% of Americans doubt we landed on the moon.

So what? There are people in Congress who think Guam is in danger of tipping over and Neil Armstrong planted the flag on Mars. There's your 6%.

In most polls between 25% and 40% believe obama wasn't born in Hawaii.

137 posted on 07/13/2011 10:43:35 AM PDT by ILS21R ("Every night before I go to sleep, I think who would throw stones at me?", she said.)
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To: LyinLibs
Corsi’s book was a big letdown. Maybe because I’d already read most of the key points by scouring the web.

Just so. I don't like to criticize Corsi, since he's working in a good cause. But I suspect he was in it more for the fame and fortune involved with writing a bestseller than he was doing really significant work. It just pieces together work done by others.

But Corsi also toyed with writing in support of the "Truthers." I find that disturbing. It suggests that he is more of an opportunist than anything else.

All of that is completely aside from the fact that both of the on-line COLBS are obvious fakes, and presumably deliberate forgeries. And certainly the Nordyke Twins have a well known connection to them, as does that baby born at the same time, who died shortly after birth, whose BC number Obama may have stolen.

139 posted on 07/13/2011 11:01:50 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: opentalk

Now that Boehner sees how dangerous this illegal alien is in the WH...just maybe he’ll start impeachment proceedings against him. This illegal is threatening Americans if he doesn’t get his way...he has proven he is an enemy agent.


140 posted on 07/13/2011 11:02:37 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judah and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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To: shield

Now that Boehner sees how dangerous this illegal alien is in the WH...just maybe he’ll start impeachment proceedings against him. This illegal is threatening Americans if he doesn’t get his way...he has proven he is an enemy agent.

Which 20 Senate Democrats do you think are going to vote to remove Zero from the presidency? It takes 67 votes in the Senate to convict and there are 47 Republicans.

Boehner was Obama’s golfing partner two weeks ago.

“The state of Hawaii has said that he was born there. That’s good enough for me.”—John Boehner (R-OH).


141 posted on 07/13/2011 11:09:08 AM PDT by jh4freedom (Mr. "O" has got to go.)
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To: txroadkill

I don’t want him thrown out of office on a technicality, I don’t even want him impeached (even though I believe he should be over Gun Walker), I want him defeated by the collective will of the American people in a landslide that makes Reagan’s look like a footnote.


I see your point; however,
1. I think an ineligible president is more than a technicality
2. What if we don’t get the landslide election you are wanting? Might be nice to have an option B.
3. Even if he is defeated, he has enacted many unconstitutional laws and exec. orders. Wouldn’t it be easier to undo some of the damage if he was deemed ineligible?


142 posted on 07/13/2011 11:23:28 AM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: Cicero

“All of that is completely aside from the fact that both of the on-line COLBS are obvious fakes, and presumably deliberate forgeries. And certainly the Nordyke Twins have a well known connection to them, as does that baby born at the same time, who died shortly after birth, whose BC number Obama may have stolen.”

Online scanned images of documents are irrelevant. The only document that matters is the one on file at the Hawaii Department of Health and hard copies that might be made directly from that document.

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai`i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai`i and is a natural-born American citizen.”—7/27/09

Dr. Fukino’s statement along with a hard copy of the birth certificate on file at the Hawaii Department of Health including the state Seal and the stamp and signature of the Registrar of Vital Statistics for the state of Hawaii is all the documentation that would ever be needed if any challenge should ever make it to a court of law.

Thus far none have in 74 attempts. Every Obama eligibility lawsuit has been dismissed during pre-trial motions.


143 posted on 07/13/2011 11:26:29 AM PDT by jh4freedom (Mr. "O" has got to go.)
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To: txroadkill
I don't want him thrown out of office on a technicality,
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I have a better idea!

1) The Constitution is NOT NOT NOT a “technicality”.

2) Throw everyone responsible for having a usurper in the White House out on their rear ends with landslide primary and national elections. That includes EVERY governor, state attorney general, secretary of state, prosecutor, and federal legislator in the U.S.! ALL of them!

2) Impeach every judge, ( including all 9 Supreme Court Justices) who failed to act.

3) Summarily dismiss every one of our generals and admirals, and replace them with patriots who are committed to their oath to defend the Constitution and their military code of honor.

4) Bankrupt all of the mainstream Marxist media and nearly all of the conservative yappers. All of them need to spend more time with their families. Boycott their sponsors. Turn them off!

144 posted on 07/13/2011 11:36:45 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: DiogenesLamp
I believe Obama has been adopted at some point in his past, his original is sealed by court order, and what you see is a cobbled together reproduction of what the Judge ordered be placed upon the document, all made to resemble something from the 1960s.

If BHO, Sr. was not his father, who was?

The record shows that his daddy considered putting him up for adoption, but evidently failed to clear it with his mommy. In any case, while that was going on, he'd worn out his American welcome sufficiently (apparent bigamy, chasing stateside girls) that Harvard saw fit to conspire with INS to ease him out of the country before he could earn that coveted PhD.

If he'd played his cards right, he could have easily leveraged his marriage to Stanley Ann to gain US citizenship. But that was never his plan. He wanted to be a big shot in newly independent Kenya, not a struggling immigrant academic in the US.

145 posted on 07/13/2011 11:37:53 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Vickery2010
Some of the boxes on Obamas form are identicle.

1. View this link from post 26:
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/05/irrefutable-proof-obamas-new-birth.html

2. Then down load the PDF from the White House server.

Your going to see that several check boxes have been duplicated, verbatim, exact pixel configuration.

Let us know what you see. Please explain to this “Old engineer with 30 years experience” how these boxes are different. Do a motion graphic and I'll gladly view it and admit I am wrong if that's what it shows.

146 posted on 07/13/2011 11:52:24 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: jh4freedom
Dr. Fukino’s statement along with a hard copy of the birth certificate on file at the Hawaii Department of Health including the state Seal and the stamp and signature of the Registrar of Vital Statistics for the state of Hawaii is all the documentation that would ever be needed if any challenge should ever make it to a court of law.

Thus far none have in 74 attempts. Every Obama eligibility lawsuit has been dismissed during pre-trial motions.

Proof that the legal system is silly and that it should be viewed with derision.

147 posted on 07/13/2011 11:53:37 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: ILS21R

“So all of NASA was in on it? Is that what you’re saying?”

No. But moon landing conspiracy theorists think all of NASA was in on it.

Birthers think the Obama administration, the Hawaii government (under Democratic AND Republican administrations), the Kenyan government, the Republican Party, federal and state judges, conservative think tanks, conservative pundits, all the fact-checking websites, all the news channels, and all the Constitutional law professors in the country are in on it.

Birthers would be better off if they had a conspiracy theory that implicated as few people as “all of NASA.”


148 posted on 07/13/2011 11:54:48 AM PDT by Vickery2010
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To: cynwoody
If BHO, Sr. was not his father, who was?

You read too much into my statement. Barack Sr. may very well be his father, but that does not mean that Barry hasn't been adopted at some point in his past.

The record shows that his daddy considered putting him up for adoption, but evidently failed to clear it with his mommy. In any case, while that was going on, he'd worn out his American welcome sufficiently (apparent bigamy, chasing stateside girls) that Harvard saw fit to conspire with INS to ease him out of the country before he could earn that coveted PhD.

It certainly appears that Barack Sr. is regarded as the father at that time, but I am not ruling out the possibility that Barack Sr. was just a "beard" to cover up the fact that Frank Davis was having sex with his best friend's Daughter.

If he'd played his cards right, he could have easily leveraged his marriage to Stanley Ann to gain US citizenship. But that was never his plan. He wanted to be a big shot in newly independent Kenya, not a struggling immigrant academic in the US.

As it turned out, he became neither. He died in a Drunk Driving accident (the last of many) crippled and broken and penniless.

149 posted on 07/13/2011 12:00:32 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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To: Vickery2010
Birthers think the Obama administration, the Hawaii government (under Democratic AND Republican administrations), the Kenyan government, the Republican Party, federal and state judges, conservative think tanks, conservative pundits, all the fact-checking websites, all the news channels, and all the Constitutional law professors in the country are in on it.

Birthers would be better off if they had a conspiracy theory that implicated as few people as “all of NASA.”

You can't call it a "conspiracy" when it is legal. All the States create fake birth certificates for Adopted children. They also refuse to confirm or deny that any child has been adopted. If you try to pry, you simply get the same sort of runaround that inquiries into Obama's documents generate from Hawaiian state officials.

150 posted on 07/13/2011 12:05:03 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Obama hides behind the Grass Skirts of Hawaiian Bureaucrats.)
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