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Japanese whalers returning to Southern Ocean
ABC News (Australia) ^ | July 13, 2011 | Sarah Clarke

Posted on 07/13/2011 4:32:03 AM PDT by tlb

Japan has confirmed its ships will be back in the Southern Ocean this year to continue its whaling program.

After an early withdrawal from last summer's so-called scientific whale hunt in the region, Japan told the International Whaling Commission meeting in the Channel Islands that it will return this year.

Australia has rejected Japan's request for greater protection against activists.

The anti-whaling activist group Sea Shepherd has confirmed that it too will continue its pursuit and return to the Southern Ocean.

(Excerpt) Read more at abc.net.au ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Business/Economy; Extended News; Japan
KEYWORDS: hunting; piracy; whalers; whalewars
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With the quake/meltdown economic mess I thought there was a good chance the subsidized whaling was over. I despise the notion that Sea Shepherd will get the credit if it's stopped any other way.
1 posted on 07/13/2011 4:32:06 AM PDT by tlb
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To: tlb

It’s too bad that a clandestine Japanese submarine doesn’t just put a torpedo into that floating nest of hippies and unwashed miscreants that the Animal Planet loves to show in their “Whale Wars” show.


2 posted on 07/13/2011 4:40:56 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (2012 is the opportunity to get rid of Obama and his Empire of Lies.)
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To: BuffaloJack

I’d rather someone torpedo the whaling ships. It’s a pathetic and stupid practice.


3 posted on 07/13/2011 4:43:05 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: tlb
I don't know if it was the Sea Shephard or not but I watched some program on Animal Planet and was appalled. As far as I could tell, the Japanese whalers had to the legal right to do what they were doing. Yet here was Animal Planet making a reality show out of what were essentially terrorists and pirates. Do I have something wrong? Are the whalers breaking some international law/agreement?
4 posted on 07/13/2011 4:44:38 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: rhombus

Below 40 degrees So. there is no law.
Below 50 degrees So. there is no hope.
Below 60 degrees So. there is no God.


5 posted on 07/13/2011 4:55:03 AM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder, Inc. Dealers in arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: BuffaloJack

I’d settle for two fast boats from the whaler running a line under the Hippie Ship and fouling it’s propeller.

And get some big deck guns that fire the same stinky crap that the Hippies throw at it. Plaster their ship with it.


6 posted on 07/13/2011 4:58:54 AM PDT by PeteB570
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To: tlb
Like everybody else, I can't stand the weirdos ineptly manning the Sea Shepherd vessels in "Whale Wars" but I also hate the damn Japanese killing hundreds of whales while violating international laws and calling it "research".

The Japanese, if left to their own devices, would eat every damn thing in the ocean, everywhere.. glad that somebody - even these twits in the Sea Shepherds - is trying to stop them.

Australia ought to send warships to the Southern Ocean instead of the surrogate hippies and stop the Japanese once and for all.

7 posted on 07/13/2011 5:05:56 AM PDT by Chainmail
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To: Roccus
Below 40 degrees So. there is no law. Below 50 degrees So. there is no hope. Below 60 degrees So. there is no God.

Wow that's deep. ;-) But if that's all true then the whalers should just take 'em out and send them below, below, below...

8 posted on 07/13/2011 5:06:13 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Chainmail
the damn Japanese killing hundreds of whales while violating international laws and calling it "research".

Ther's plenty of "research" that one person will call bogus but using that as an excuse for "violating international laws" is twisted. Let them eat cow, eh?

9 posted on 07/13/2011 5:08:34 AM PDT by rhombus
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“And get some big deck guns that fire the same stinky crap that the Hippies throw at it. Plaster their ship with it.”

It would have to be soap to have a negative affect on the hippies.


10 posted on 07/13/2011 5:11:08 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: rhombus

Heh-heh.
Just one of several versions of an old mariner’s saying.

If the whalers did that, I wouldn’t get my Friday night laff-riot of hippies failing and FR would have to drop its weekly “Live” thread.


11 posted on 07/13/2011 5:15:02 AM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurer of arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: PeteB570
"And get some big deck guns that fire the same stinky crap that the Hippies throw at it. Plaster their ship with it."

If I were in charge of the Japanese Whaling Fleet I would place large catapults on each ship and launch "Whale Guts" at the Dirty Hippies every chance I got!

12 posted on 07/13/2011 5:20:31 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Roccus

I watched one program where the hippies went into major depression because the whaling ship took a whale “right in front of them”. This was right after they were all yuking it up becuase it was the “wild west” out there and they’d just attacked the whaling ship with chemical bombs or something. I thought, if this were really the “wild west” your ship and you would be at the bottom by now feeding the fishes.


13 posted on 07/13/2011 5:24:57 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Peter from Rutland

Neither side is worthy of support that’s for sure.


14 posted on 07/13/2011 5:31:53 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: rhombus
Yup, Kobe beef..

Come to think of it, imports of that choice Aussie beef should more than make up for the lost whale meat in their diets. Would cost less in the long run than maintaining a fleet of specialized whaling vessels.

Them Japanese are remarkably hard to convince - Buin, Guadalcanal, Empress Augusta Bay, Betio, the Palaus, Iwo, Luzon, and Okinawa Come to mind...

15 posted on 07/13/2011 5:33:43 AM PDT by Chainmail
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To: tlb
This former Coastie fully believes it is only a matter of time until one or more of the Sea Shepherds crew or vessels ends up in Davy Jones locker, permanently. It is simply "when", not "if", one of these water-bourne tree-huggers ends up dead.

There isn't a professional mariner to be found in the entire organization. They don't respect the sea, who does not for long suffer fools. Their arrogance will be their downfall.

16 posted on 07/13/2011 5:35:36 AM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: Chainmail
Them Japanese are remarkably hard to convince - Buin, Guadalcanal, Empress Augusta Bay, Betio, the Palaus, Iwo, Luzon, and Okinawa Come to mind...

To that I will add Nagasaki. They should have waived the white flag after Hiroshima.

17 posted on 07/13/2011 5:39:11 AM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: Chainmail
Them Japanese are remarkably hard to convince -

Yeha, why won't they just accept dependence on other countries like we do. ;-) Eat beef, it's morally superior to whale... because it just is. ;-)

18 posted on 07/13/2011 5:41:53 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: BuffaloJack

End whaling.


19 posted on 07/13/2011 5:42:10 AM PDT by Clara Lou
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To: tlb

I despise the thought that whaling should be ended by any form of coercion. It is a viable and sustainable fishery.


20 posted on 07/13/2011 5:45:29 AM PDT by ExpatGator (I hate Illinois Nazis!)
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To: rhombus
Yeah, probably... Cows are dumb, whales ain't. That, and there are a lot fewer whales.

Now - if whales start gaining in number to the point they make pests of themselves, I say chow down - but while there are just a few down in icy waters, I believe that the Japanese should eat something less exotic/conversational.

hell, I seem to remember that the Japanese even ate US at one point on Chichi Jima!

21 posted on 07/13/2011 5:59:00 AM PDT by Chainmail
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To: Chainmail

I think you’re not alone in your beliefs. I’m not sure the Japanese eat whale just becuase it’s exotic. On the other hand maybe they do. Trendy diets are not exclusive to Japan.

If we take the position, however, that because we believe in something we can act without regard to law well then all bets are off and the ship with the biggest cannon wins. In this case, I’m thinking it’s going to be the whalers with the biggest cannon and the crusading anti-whalers having a Rachel Corrie moment.


22 posted on 07/13/2011 6:26:38 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: rhombus
I agree that there are limitations - violations of law are violations of law (unless those Ba$tard$ decide our 2nd Amendment can be cancelled by international conventions) but the Japanese are clearly pushing the envelope to feed their faces. Look at what they have done to the Bluefin tuna population and their casual slaughter of porpoises for food as shown in The Cove.

The Sea Shepherds have stuck to nonviolet, non-injurious techniques for the most part but the Japanese have gone crazy with propaganda, muscling the international organizations, and have even taken to deliberately ramming vessels. So far they've been lucky to have only hippies opposing them...Imagine what a manly outfit would do to them if they made them mad enough.

23 posted on 07/13/2011 6:45:53 AM PDT by Chainmail
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To: Roccus

Below 70 degrees So. pray to Shackleton?!


24 posted on 07/13/2011 6:52:13 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: tlb

25 posted on 07/13/2011 6:55:29 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: Chainmail

YOur excellent post points out the falacy of “international law”. There’s always an unless... in your case it was the 2nd amendment. I guess in Japan’s case it’s “feeding their faces”.

If I were a Japanese company engaged in whaling, I’d “man up” now. Then Obama can go to war to protect the whales... right after he finishes protecting the Libyans. ;-)


26 posted on 07/13/2011 7:02:38 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Chainmail
Trying to stop a ship on the high seas and fouling the propeller is not NON violent. It is piracy.
27 posted on 07/13/2011 7:12:32 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (If you voted for Obama to prove you are not racist, vote against him to prove you are not an idiot.)
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To: Chainmail
Australia ought to send warships to the Southern Ocean instead of the surrogate hippies and stop the Japanese once and for all.

The Aussies really do not want to go there. The Japanese Navy is about three times the size of the Austrailian Navy with much more firepower.

28 posted on 07/13/2011 7:22:23 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In the land of the pigs, the butcher is king.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Disagree - nobody's hurt and nobody's in danger if the prop's fouled or stinky stuff is sprayed. Nobody seizes the Japanese vessels or kills/injures crewmen or steals their stuff or holds them for ransom like our Somali buddlies. Not piracy, right?

Now, if the Sea Shepherds were using metal projectiles or deliberately ramming and sinking vessels - as the Japanese have - that would be deliberate violence and potentially chargeable as an offence.

But for some reason (more than likely money to the right people) nobody is objecting to the Japanese offenses. It is illegal to kill whales for food, yet they are doing it in plain sight - only chunky Paul Watson and his gang of twits are doing a dang thing.

If you are supporting the Japanese, why?..

29 posted on 07/13/2011 7:22:32 AM PDT by Chainmail
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To: PapaBear3625
Yeah, true -

But the Aussies have kicked their tail in previous history quite well (Kokoda, Buna, Milne Bay, etc.). If I were the Japanese, I'd avoid ticking off the OZ.

30 posted on 07/13/2011 7:25:40 AM PDT by Chainmail
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Look disabling a ship on the high seas puts the crew in danger ANYTIME. A ship that cannot maneuver is at critical risk.

I am not supporting the Japanese. I am supporting the rule of law as practiced on the high seas for centuries.

The Japanese did not intentionally ram the Sea Hippies. The Sea hippies violated EVERY rule of ship operation and did not yield to the larger ship (in fact they intentionally drove in front of a moving vessel) That puts them at fault.

The collision between the Japanese ship and the Irwin was also the Sea Hippies fault. They had an obligation to yield (once again) to the larger ship.

The Sea Hippies boarded the Japanese ship (another violation of law)without permission and that Bethune idiot broke down in court and cried like a little girl.

Do you pull out in traffic in front of trucks with your vehicle?

31 posted on 07/13/2011 7:35:03 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (If you voted for Obama to prove you are not racist, vote against him to prove you are not an idiot.)
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To: Peter from Rutland

I’d rather someone torpedo the whaling ships. It’s a pathetic and stupid practice.


Ever eat chicken,pork, or beef? Ever been to a slaughter house? Ever been fishin? Its all the same.
I have never eaten whale but I bet it is mighty tasty.


32 posted on 07/13/2011 7:41:46 AM PDT by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Sorry, guy - you are wrong: the Japanese vessel clearly turned into the Sea Shepherd vessel while that vessel was dead in the water and unable to maneuver (they were out of fuel). Clear violation of law which they lied about even though the video evidence is very clear.

The arrogance of the Japanese whalers is astounding and I find it strange that anyone would support their activities.

33 posted on 07/13/2011 8:02:30 AM PDT by Chainmail
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To: Chainmail

Just out of curiosity, what was the Sea Shepherd doing at the time? No way the Sea Shepherd was out to do the Japanese whalers harm. No way.


34 posted on 07/13/2011 8:06:43 AM PDT by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: tlb
Australia has rejected Japan's request for greater protection against activists.

Good. Now the Japanese can put some Bofors cannons on their decks and blow these idiots out of the water.

35 posted on 07/13/2011 8:08:37 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Chainmail

They are not breaking any law, because there is no law. You would be better off doing some research instead of spouting off the Sea Hippies line.

The IWC has a moratorium in place on Whaling for countries that agree to cooperate, but not all Whaling countries agreed to it. Norway still hunts whales. Why aren’t the Sea Hippies up there after them?


36 posted on 07/13/2011 8:14:12 AM PDT by Double Tap
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To: Double Tap

Norway does not have the same money.


37 posted on 07/13/2011 8:19:31 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Hat-Trick
This former Coastie fully believes it is only a matter of time until one or more of the Sea Shepherds crew or vessels ends up in Davy Jones locker, permanently

It has already happened. Last season the fiberglass Bob Barker tried some crazy manuver with the whalers and got run over. A day or two later it sunk.

38 posted on 07/13/2011 8:21:12 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle
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To: tlb
Where did FR suddenly pick up a bunch of eco-nazi hippy pirate sympathizers?
39 posted on 07/13/2011 8:28:51 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Chainmail
The Sea Shepherds have stuck to nonviolet, non-injurious techniques

Fouling the prop of a ship on the high seas is an act of piracy. Anyone doing it should be hung.
40 posted on 07/13/2011 8:33:27 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: TalonDJ

Hey don’t knock it! I Tevo the show. Love watching these idiotic hippies trying to tame the south seas.


41 posted on 07/13/2011 8:33:49 AM PDT by cornfedcowboy (Trust in God, but empty the clip.)
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To: Chainmail
I believe that the Japanese should eat something less exotic/conversational.

Hey newbie, you and the mooselady, mooseshell, are one of a kind, both of you think you have the right to dictate to everyone else what we are allowed and not allowed to eat. I hear moveon calling your name.
42 posted on 07/13/2011 8:34:22 AM PDT by John D
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To: Double Tap

Cause Norway hasn’t killed 550 whales per season for “research”, I guess...


43 posted on 07/13/2011 8:50:47 AM PDT by Chainmail
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To: John D
What? And leave charmers like you as the only voice for conservatism?

Don't think so...

44 posted on 07/13/2011 8:54:01 AM PDT by Chainmail
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To: Chainmail

Since when is you deciding what others should be able to eat or not be allowed to eat a voice for conservatism? Sounds like liberal talking points to me.


45 posted on 07/13/2011 8:58:06 AM PDT by John D
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To: Chainmail
You are wrong. You need to watch the entire video - not the edited version released by the Sea Hippies.
46 posted on 07/13/2011 9:39:49 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (If you voted for Obama to prove you are not racist, vote against him to prove you are not an idiot.)
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To: Chainmail

What would you call it if I came by your house and flattened all the tires on your car?

After all it contributes to greenhouse gases.


47 posted on 07/13/2011 9:44:09 AM PDT by PeteB570
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To: tlb

I hope they are well armed this year and kill off all the Sea Shephard scum!


48 posted on 07/13/2011 9:46:40 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: Chainmail

I hope the Japs kill every stinking sack of useless blubber floping around in the ocean!


49 posted on 07/13/2011 9:52:34 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: mad_as_he$$
You're talking about the ramming and sinking of the Ady Gill?

You think that the Hippies cut out the part where they picked the boat up and threw it in front of the Yushin Maru 2?

Sheesh...

50 posted on 07/13/2011 10:32:44 AM PDT by Chainmail
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