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NBC Chicago’s Edward Mcclelland: Burn Down Gun Factories
The Truth About Guns ^ | 12 July, 2011 | Robert Farago

Posted on 07/13/2011 4:47:30 AM PDT by marktwain

NBC Chicago blogger Edward Edward Mcclelland‘s not happy about the fact that ex-con Rodrick Dantzler got ahold of a .40 caliber handgun and killed seven people in Grand Rapids, Michigan. ”The only way to prevent this sort of thing from happening again is to track the weapon back to the gun manufacturer, then burn its factory to the ground. As long as it is legal to make and sell a product whose only function is to kill people, that product will be used to kill people illegally. A thug who’s planning a murder is not likely to worry about the penalty for stealing a gun.” At least Eddy gets that part of the equation right. And then he’s off again . . .

As a society, we’ve decided that the free manufacture of firearms is worth the sacrifice of seven people in Grand Rapids, or five people in DeKalb, or 32 people in Blacksburg, Va. Did you hear any politician suggest banning firearms after those bloodbaths? I didn’t.

Nor will Eddy hear any great chorus for gun control. Most people are well aware that a firearm offers them protection from . . . other people with firearms. But Big Mac has it only slightly wrong. Here, let me fix it . . .

As a society, we’ve decided that the freedoms guaranteed by the individual right to keep and bear firearms are worth the dangers of living in society where criminals also have access to firearms.

[If you care to set Mr. Mcclelland straight on this matter, click here to email him a copy of your reply.]


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: arson; banglist; democrats; liberalfascism; mcclelland; mediabias; nbc
When your basic assumptions are false, you can easily appear crazy. The basic assumptions of the left about reality are false.
1 posted on 07/13/2011 4:47:34 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

When there’s a repeat of the Osaka school massacre in a US school, is this waste of space going to suggest burning down kitchen knife manufacturers?


2 posted on 07/13/2011 4:51:34 AM PDT by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: marktwain

Just because you appear crazy, doesn’t mean that you aren’t.


3 posted on 07/13/2011 4:52:04 AM PDT by mike-zed
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To: marktwain

So these anti-gun fools think if someone kills someone with a rolled-up NYTimes they should burn their presses to the ground? Truly...these liberal idiots are mentally ill.


4 posted on 07/13/2011 4:52:16 AM PDT by hal ogen ( Reeducation camp or expression of my First Amendment Rights?)
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To: marktwain

Leftwing Liberalism (socialism/progressivism, etc - or whatever the kids are calling it these daze) is truly a mental disorder.

FACTS:
Leftwing socialism always fails. ALWAYS.
Leftwing socialism always fails econmically.
Leftwing socialism always fails morally.
Leftwing socialism responsible for 200 million deaths in 20th century.
Leftwing socialism is pure, satanic evil.

So if the leftwingnuts are so intelleigent, why do they continue belief in a failed and evil system?

For the POWER and STOLEN WEALTH.


5 posted on 07/13/2011 4:55:51 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/West 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: marktwain
NBC Chicago blogger Edward Edward Mcclelland‘s not happy about the fact that ex-con Rodrick Dantzler got ahold of a .40 caliber handgun and killed seven people in Grand Rapids, Michigan. ”The only way to prevent this sort of thing from happening again is to track the weapon back to the gun manufacturer, then burn its factory to the ground.

Dantzler was also on drugs, why no mention of it? I'm not looking for a drug argument, only pointing out the absurdity of the writer's statement.

Dantzler's drugs didn't come from a factory somewhere, someone produced them on a fairly small scale. Even if we outlaw guns, they'll still be produced because they're a simple machine and that technology is well known and won't be erradicated.

A few years back I saw a documentary on the weapons being produced in Pakistan. Automatic weapons are being produced in mud huts by a couple of guys sitting around on the floor.
6 posted on 07/13/2011 4:59:17 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: marktwain

Perhaps if we locked up criminals and reinstated the notion of consequences for one’s actions, we could initiate a cultural shift.


7 posted on 07/13/2011 4:59:55 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: marktwain
NBC Chicago’s Edward Mcclelland: Burn Down Gun Factories

Damned Nazis. Why won't they just "go away". I guess they were asking the same questions in the late 30's. We all know how that turned out.

8 posted on 07/13/2011 5:00:32 AM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: marktwain

“They that can give up essential liberty to gain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” - Benjamin Franklin

•”Gun control? It’s the best thing you can do for crooks and gangsters. I want you to have nothing. If I’m a bad guy, I’m always gonna have a gun. Safety locks? You will pull the trigger with a lock on, and I’ll pull the trigger. We’ll see who wins.” — Former Mafia hit man turned informant Sammy “the Bull” Gravano


9 posted on 07/13/2011 5:01:07 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: marktwain
”The only way to prevent this sort of thing from happening again is to track the weapon back to the gun manufacturer, then burn its factory to the ground. As long as it is legal to make and sell a product whose only function is to kill people, that product will be used to kill people illegally. A thug who’s planning a murder is not likely to worry about the penalty for stealing a gun.”

News from LA Times:
A brawl among about 30 women near a busy South Los Angeles intersection turned deadly Monday when a woman plowed her car into the crowd, killing a woman who was eight months pregnant, authorities said.

Someone inspired by this writer would say: ”The only way to prevent this sort of thing from happening again is to track the car back to the automobile manufacturer, then burn its factory to the ground. As long as it is legal to make and sell a product that can be used so easily to kill people, that product will be used to kill people illegally. A thug who’s planning a murder is not likely to worry about the penalty for ramming a crowd with a car.”

The nice thing is that the far left's dismal economy has figuratively burned the far left UAW's factories to the ground. Karma can be beautiful.

10 posted on 07/13/2011 5:03:26 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: marktwain

He sounds like a terrorist to me. Send him to Gitmo.


11 posted on 07/13/2011 5:05:50 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Obama is a Communist, a Muslim, and an illegal alien)
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To: marktwain
click here to email him a copy of your reply.

Be careful here - don't leave him with the impression that you actually watch his drivel.

12 posted on 07/13/2011 5:06:24 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: marktwain
I suggest that we burn down Edward Mcclellands house

do these idiots want to open this can of worms

13 posted on 07/13/2011 5:10:15 AM PDT by Charlespg
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To: marktwain
So, according to liberal logic the answer to gun crime is anarchistic arson?

Wow, wish I were that brilliant.

14 posted on 07/13/2011 5:11:19 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Excuse me - gotta go drain the Obama...)
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To: hal ogen

For the record the left isn’t anti-gun. Many, many lefties own them even those who blather on about how no one should be able to have one (or more). The problem they have w/ guns is that you can own and use them. They’re OK but youll always be suspect. The gun issue is about ones place in society and not the h/w. The left sees themselves at the top and you at the bottom. Anything that might equalize this should be outlawed for you but not them. They were created to rule and you were created to slave (for them). So, anti-gun is just another smoke screen to hide the raw totalitarian face of liberalism.


15 posted on 07/13/2011 5:13:26 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: marktwain

”The only way to prevent this sort of thing from happening again is to track the weapon back to the gun manufacturer, then burn its factory to the ground. As long as it is legal to make and sell a product whose only function is to kill people, that product will be used to kill people illegally. A thug who’s planning a murder is not likely to worry about the penalty for stealing a gun.”

So this liberal would be happy to torch cigarette factories?
Of course not. They kill people but the tax money is just too big to “burn down.” Phony annoying liberal alert!!!


16 posted on 07/13/2011 5:26:49 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: newfreep
Leftwing Liberalism (socialism/progressivism, etc - or whatever the kids are calling it these daze) is truly a mental disorder.

FACTS: Leftwing socialism always fails. ALWAYS.
Leftwing socialism always fails econmically.
Leftwing socialism always fails morally.
Leftwing socialism responsible for 200 million deaths in 20th century.
Leftwing socialism is pure, satanic evil.

So if the leftwingnuts are so intelleigent, why do they continue belief in a failed and evil system?

For the POWER and STOLEN WEALTH.


That's one of the best posts I've ever read on FR!
17 posted on 07/13/2011 5:30:01 AM PDT by 762X51
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To: newfreep
Leftwing socialism always fails. ALWAYS. Leftwing socialism always fails econmically. Leftwing socialism always fails morally. Leftwing socialism responsible for 200 million deaths in 20th century. Leftwing socialism is pure, satanic evil.

to be really successful they need you to give up your guns

18 posted on 07/13/2011 5:31:36 AM PDT by alrea
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To: marktwain
Get ready for the next act in the play.

I expect an Executive order on banning guns or their sale soon. The play is proceeding even though the fraud has been discovered.

19 posted on 07/13/2011 5:34:21 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: marktwain

It is pointless to argue with idiots who ascribe moral attributes tools.

That being said, Mr. Mcclelland [sic], has not only proposed arson against legitimate businesses with which he disagrees, but has published his criminal desires. That is not free speech. That borders on solicitation of criminal acts; although I doubt the ACLU or Holder’s people disagree with him.


20 posted on 07/13/2011 5:36:17 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: marktwain

Edward Mcclelland: Burn Down Gun Factories( but NOT until Mr McClelland gets HIS choice of firearms)

After all, Guns are for the elites but most definitely NOT for the ‘rabble’ in fly over country.

sarc//


21 posted on 07/13/2011 5:41:29 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: cripplecreek
So, we find a druggy who kills people with something and we trace those drugs back to a drugstore robbery so we burn down the local mini-mall.

Or, we find a druggy who kills people with something and we track those drugs back to a drug kingpin with offices in the Empire State building (like we see so many times in TV shows) and we burn down Midtown Manhattan.

Or, we find another druggy who kills people and we trace his drugs back to an open air drug market in a bad part of town so we burn out................ well, that part right there is a problem because so many of those places look like they've been burned out already.

So, we find another druggy......

Better solution, we find somebody who kills people, give them quick justice and be done with it!

Now, let's say we find government officials authorizing the dispatch of firearms to known killers in Mexico and Honduras, and they do this in violation of our laws regarding weapons exports, we should be prepared to administer quick justice to them as well (subject to trial and conviction of course).

22 posted on 07/13/2011 5:53:47 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: marktwain

I suggest Mr Mcclelland personally lead the effort to commit arson against a firearm factory.

He will then learn, first-hand, how firearms are used in self-defense.


23 posted on 07/13/2011 5:59:42 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: 762X51
Thanks for your kind comment - amazing what overdosing on caffeine can do early in the morning.

God save America!

24 posted on 07/13/2011 6:06:23 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/West 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: Caipirabob

Maybe the solution to subversive journalism is to burn the author’s home to the ground?Not much different from what this jerk’s advocating.


25 posted on 07/13/2011 6:10:20 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Wow, this goof is advocating arson?

OK there skippy put your money where your mouth is.

Go ahead Mr. McClelland, set the fire. see what happens.


26 posted on 07/13/2011 6:12:00 AM PDT by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: marktwain

“”The only way to prevent this sort of thing from happening again is to track the weapon back to the gun manufacturer, then burn its factory to the ground.”

Great logic. Sounds like an Obama supporter. Don’t like something in society? Go burn something down.


27 posted on 07/13/2011 6:15:45 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: marktwain

“Madness is to hold an erroneous perception and argue perfectly from it.”

—Voltaire


28 posted on 07/13/2011 6:21:55 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Government borrowing is Taxation without Representation)
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To: marktwain

I wonder if Mr. Mcclelland would use violence against anyone who uses violence.


29 posted on 07/13/2011 6:22:28 AM PDT by farmguy
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To: marktwain

Where’s Mrs. O’Learys cow when you need it...


30 posted on 07/13/2011 6:30:06 AM PDT by BigCinBigD ("We hold it in our power, to begin the world anew")
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To: marktwain
Guns are tools that are used for good far more often than bad.

According to DOJ crime statistics, guns are used 2.5-million times per year to prevent robberies, rapes, murders, carjackings, home-invasions, etc., 99% of the time without a shot being fired.

Gun Facts

I guess Mr. Mcclelland thinks those people deserve to be victimized.

31 posted on 07/13/2011 6:31:32 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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To: marktwain

...then what’s her Brownshirt buddies going to use to intimidate, and ultimately cook, the public?


32 posted on 07/13/2011 6:35:45 AM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: marktwain

MARKER


33 posted on 07/13/2011 6:45:56 AM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: hal ogen

Probably more people have been killed by the writings of the NYT (or other lefty newspapers) than by privately owned handguns.

Think about how they covered up for the commies during the imposed famines in the Ukraine.


34 posted on 07/13/2011 6:49:37 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: 556x45

Great analysis.

I hope you save it for reposting on other gun related threads.


35 posted on 07/13/2011 6:50:45 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: marktwain

There is nothing to be gained by writing McClelland. The man is irrational. No facts or reasoning will register in his pathetic mind. People like him are to be pitied and their whines and rants ignored.


36 posted on 07/13/2011 7:33:18 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: SUSSA

People like him are to be prevented from any positions of power over others.


37 posted on 07/13/2011 7:34:40 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Yes indeed. He needs to be in an institution that can help his mental problems.


38 posted on 07/13/2011 8:52:12 AM PDT by SUSSA
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To: marktwain

Yeah, but Mr. McWhatever, if you burn down the gun manufacturer plants, where will you get YOUR weapons to suppress us? You know you will need lots of them and we are not giving you ours.


39 posted on 07/13/2011 9:04:55 AM PDT by mom.mom
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To: Renderofveils
...is this waste of space going to suggest burning down kitchen knife manufacturers?

I don't think the Chicoms would sit still for that.

40 posted on 07/13/2011 9:23:57 AM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: cripplecreek
A few years back I saw a documentary on the weapons being produced in Pakistan. Automatic weapons are being produced in mud huts by a couple of guys sitting around on the floor.

Producing a full-auto weapon is actually simpler than making a semi-auto.

41 posted on 07/13/2011 9:52:07 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In the land of the pigs, the butcher is king.)
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To: marktwain

AIDS killed many millions of people, perhaps we should burn down the bath houses and gay bars.


42 posted on 07/13/2011 4:30:13 PM PDT by Hacklehead (The Tree of Liberty is very thirsty.)
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To: marktwain
...Rodrick Dantzler got ahold of a .40 caliber handgun and killed seven people in Grand Rapids, Michigan.

If instead of killing them with a gun, he had hit them over the head with a bottle of white wine, could be burn down all the wineries in California?

43 posted on 07/13/2011 4:46:53 PM PDT by GOPJ (Honk if I'm paying for your car, your mortgage, and your big, fat Greek bailout - mewzilla)
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