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Netflix raises rates, irks subscribers
ap ^ | July 13, 2011 | MICHAEL LIEDTKE

Posted on 07/13/2011 6:55:27 AM PDT by Dacula

Edited on 07/13/2011 8:26:55 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

SAN FRANCISCO Netflix has provoked the ire of some of its 23 million subscribers by raising its prices by as much as 60 percent for those who want to rent DVDs by mail and watch video on the Internet.


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I got my email from netflix this morning.

I ask fellow FReepers - what are alternatives to Netflix? I am going to cancel in protest.

1 posted on 07/13/2011 6:55:33 AM PDT by Dacula
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To: Dacula

Real life


2 posted on 07/13/2011 6:58:25 AM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom!!! I know i was kidding)
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To: Dacula

Amazon has some video streaming - not as much as Netflix but that may change, now.


3 posted on 07/13/2011 6:59:27 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Dacula

I am going to drop the streaming option. It was nice but the selection of movies is very limited.


4 posted on 07/13/2011 7:01:17 AM PDT by BubbaBobTX ("The problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other peoples money." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Dacula
More money also means more selection.

I am canceling the streaming portion for now while I have cable and on demand (was going all netflix for 4 years - then got HBO and cable for “Game of Thrones”).

I will be saving money by just getting discs mailed.

They are pouring money into getting the rights to stream more and more movies - it only makes sense to separate out those costs to give more accurate customer options.

Just my 0.02$

5 posted on 07/13/2011 7:02:29 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Dacula
Only alternative I see is ...

Or you can go to Hulu.com or Crackel.com for movies

6 posted on 07/13/2011 7:02:54 AM PDT by CapnJack
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To: Dacula

Yep - just got our notice this AM - knew there would not be a decrease in the fee regardless - if they streamed oldies, we’d cancel DVD service but NOOOOO! It’s expensive in Los Gatos and the CEO needs $$$ to give to Obummer....


7 posted on 07/13/2011 7:03:06 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: Dacula

Go streaming only. We did that last time they changed the rate structure. Their business is focused on streaming anyway at this stage. If you don’t do streaming, cancel and use Redbox. If you do use streaming keep that only, and go with Redbox for DVD rental. You can reserve specific movies on the redbox website or mobile apps before you go pick them up.


8 posted on 07/13/2011 7:03:11 AM PDT by ilgipper ( political rhetoric is no substitute for competence (Thomas Sowell))
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To: Dacula

Yeah, I’m kind of ticked about this too. That’s a huge price increase — pretty close to 50%. It’s not going to sit well with most folks.


9 posted on 07/13/2011 7:03:14 AM PDT by kevkrom (Imagine if the media spent 1/10 the effort vetting Obama as they've used against Palin.)
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To: Dacula

OT, but kinda related —

Is anybody else having a problem with HULU (free) not loading videos this morning??


10 posted on 07/13/2011 7:04:11 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: BubbaBobTX

The content and quality is not good enough yet, so I’ll probably drop the streaming as well. When “real” HD picture and sound are provided that can replace waiting for a snail mail Blu-Ray - I’ll bite.


11 posted on 07/13/2011 7:04:31 AM PDT by RowdyYates
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To: Dacula

I’m not sure if there is an alternative for both DVD rentals and streaming.

Blockbuster has a similar program for renting DVDs by mail, but it costs $11.99 a month. The good thing is they get a lot of the new releases almost a month earlier than Netflix, and if you live near a participating store, you can return your dvd to the store and select a new one up to 5 times a month.


12 posted on 07/13/2011 7:05:05 AM PDT by Infralutheran
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To: Dacula

I plan on cancelling too, but remember, it is not Netflix, it is the Studios that are driving this, and my cancellation is more a message to the studios than to Netflix, they are simply caught in the middle.

The studios have already delayed the availability of New Releases to Netflix by 30 days or more in some cases in hopes of driving sales of DVD’s during this initial window.

Late last year, Netflix reported that the fees they pay the studios rose from $229 million to $1.8 billion in the span of 3 months, and those costs continue to rise.

In short, if the studios want to discourage me from watching their product by extorting exorbitant fees from Netflix, I will play along and not watch. How often does Hollywood have to kill their golden goose before they learn their lesson?


13 posted on 07/13/2011 7:05:35 AM PDT by Hurricane Andrew (History teaches that wars begin when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap.)
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To: Dacula

After our email, we canceled everything but the streaming, but we like old movies. Red box is just down the street, new releases.


14 posted on 07/13/2011 7:06:51 AM PDT by svcw (democrats are liars, it's a given)
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To: Dacula

Got the email this morning. I’ve watched about all the old movies I wanted to anyway, and was just contemplating ditching Netflix, this makes it easy.


15 posted on 07/13/2011 7:06:52 AM PDT by Kenton (Trust, but carry a gun...)
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To: BubbaBobTX

In contrast, I’ll drop the DVD option and keep streaming. Being able to watch something NOW is more used than 2-day turnaround on a couple discs at a time (which tend to sit unwatched). A few bucks extra for the disc option was OK, but not if they’re going to ratchet it up another $5 or so. There’s more than enough streaming to keep me & the kids happy. For the few times we adults actually sit and watch a full movie together, Redbox “what’s recent” for a buck and iTunes “_this_ movie _now_” for $2-5 trumps.


16 posted on 07/13/2011 7:07:16 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: al baby

Real life

Yep. I never bundle anything for that reason - once the fish is hooked....And I don’t buy into the low cost introductory stuff - the price WILL go up after initial offer (oh, and they never tell you how much it will go up). I guess if I had money to burn, this wouldn’t be an issue but I, for one, can’t afford to play the game.


17 posted on 07/13/2011 7:07:37 AM PDT by Bitsy (!)
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To: Dacula

It’s still a lot cheaper than cable, and the rate hikes are mostly the fault of the media companies since they’re charging outrageous rates for rights to stream their shows/movies.

The streaming selection is getting much, much better, too.


18 posted on 07/13/2011 7:08:13 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: Dacula

yah...we got the e-mail yesterday informing us that we don’t need to do anything for our bill to double all by itself....it’s just like a Congressional pay raise....

I’ve never downloaded a movie from Netflix and probably never will, and there is no reason based on our customer history to double up on the charges for a service we have never used or asked for. But the onus is on us to straighten this out, and I’m inclined to make sure we don’t have anymore Netflix problems by cancelling Netflix entirely.


19 posted on 07/13/2011 7:08:54 AM PDT by Bean Counter (Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate......)
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To: ctdonath2

Yep. We rarely watch an actual DVD anymore. Keep the streaming, ditch the DVD-by-mail. Actually saves us money.


20 posted on 07/13/2011 7:09:52 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Dacula

Get Vuze (Google it) and a Tivo Premier.

With Vuze you can access just about anything long before it’s available on DVD or streaming.

Vuze has a utility that will convert your video downloads to a Tivo format that you can download to the Tivo and play on your TV.

BTW, Netflix just shot themselves in the foot. Look for Netflix’s lead on its competition to start eroding quickly.


21 posted on 07/13/2011 7:10:10 AM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: Dacula
Cancelled my streaming,selection was limited anyway. Going to look at Amazon Prime.
22 posted on 07/13/2011 7:12:10 AM PDT by balticbeau
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To: Dacula
My wife and I are going streaming only. Our local library has a very good selection of movies to choose from is we see something we cannot get on Netflix.

My bet is that Netflix will be laying off folks and closing warehouses as soon as the amount of disc users drops to a given level and they will continue to trend and promote their streaming service rather than send out discs.
23 posted on 07/13/2011 7:13:13 AM PDT by The Louiswu (Pray for America)
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To: Bean Counter

All the movies I’ve ever wanted to see, I’ve already seen....what’s the point?


24 posted on 07/13/2011 7:13:27 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Dacula
People pay $500 for iPads and $200 for smartphones and the like but this increase is too much. Huh? They are streaming video to wherever the hell you want to any device for $8 per month! DVDs to your house using regular mail postage paid for $8 a month?

Now that were all hooked like crack addicts on TV the pusher raises their rates and the addict cries foul

25 posted on 07/13/2011 7:15:11 AM PDT by frogjerk (Liberalism: The ideology of envy.)
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To: ctdonath2

I’d love to be able to get rid of DirectTV but sadly there is nothing in the streaming world to replace it with. :(


26 posted on 07/13/2011 7:15:19 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: Dacula

Find better things to do with your time other than watching movies.


27 posted on 07/13/2011 7:15:30 AM PDT by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: Rum Tum Tugger

Whom do you consider to be Netflix’s competition?

Streaming is the future. There are enormous costs involved in handling physical discs.

Just like DVD-by-mail killed the video store, streaming will kill the DVD. Why buy a copy of a movie if I can watch it whenever I want, at home or on my portable device?


28 posted on 07/13/2011 7:16:04 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Dacula
Since my DirecTV has first run movies a month before Netflix and On Demand and I have to wait weeks for any new release from Netflix, I'm going to change from $23.00 a month for unlimited video plan to the $ 7.00 for only streaming plan. ...watch new movies on DirecTV pay for view.

How's that affect your bottom-line Netflix?

29 posted on 07/13/2011 7:16:15 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Dacula

I was going to switch from HBO to Netflix because it was less money. Not now.


30 posted on 07/13/2011 7:18:04 AM PDT by Republic of Texas (Socialism Always Fails)
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To: Dacula

I have the streaming and one movie at a time unlimited. So it almost doubles the cost but I use both. I love the streaming and if I canceled anything it would be snail mail but what happens is that I start watching a TV series and just when it gets good, one of the disks can only come through the mail. Also some of the old BBC Shakespeare plays are only available through the mail. I’ll probably end up keeping both. Last week though I was poed because they pulled any access to anything but the first year of Doc Martin.


31 posted on 07/13/2011 7:18:10 AM PDT by Mercat
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” I was poed because they pulled any access to anything but the first year of Doc Martin. “

HULU.com has all three seasons available - no charge.....


32 posted on 07/13/2011 7:20:07 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Dacula

While we enjoyed the documentaries, etc - I quit this morning.

60% increase? I’ll save the money Thanks


33 posted on 07/13/2011 7:20:31 AM PDT by NoNAIS (Yet another Government program not needed.)
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To: Kenton

We will cancel Netflix soon, about all we get now is old TV series. It’ll be Redbox for us.


34 posted on 07/13/2011 7:20:57 AM PDT by tgusa (Investment plan: blued steel, brass, lead, copper)
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To: Dacula

We are leaning towards changing the DVD option to 1-at-a-time.
We are keeping streaming, so this keeps our payment the same as before w/2-at-a-time DVDs.

However, we are probably going to totally cancel DVDs as soon as we buy a separate router for the Roku. We can then take the Roku and the router over to the shop and set it up there if we want to watch TV while working. The shop is the main reason for DVDs, anyway. Eventually, we may just splurge for a 2nd Roku and router for the shop, but only if business picks up.


35 posted on 07/13/2011 7:21:26 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: RowdyYates
The content and quality is not good enough yet, so I’ll probably drop the streaming as well. When “real” HD picture and sound are provided that can replace waiting for a snail mail Blu-Ray - I’ll bite.

That may be what I do as well. When I hooked up my Blu-ray via LAN cable, I thought I'd love the streaming option; but 7 times out of 10 the show I want to watch is not available for streaming. And no, the quality is not near a Blu-ray or even an HD broadcast. Heck, I've got so much stuff I haven't watched on DVD or blu-ray, I may just cancel Netflix for awhile until I get caught up.

36 posted on 07/13/2011 7:22:16 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: Rum Tum Tugger

I have veetle and wwiTV. I can watch all of the latest movies and some sports.

I use FireFox and load up on all the tracking blockers that FF offers.


37 posted on 07/13/2011 7:23:04 AM PDT by Dacula (This a day the Lord giveth, I just try to minimize what the government taketh.)
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To: Dacula

Jessie Becker, Netflix’s vice president of marketing, wrote Tuesday on Netflix’s blog that charging just $2 more for a bundled plan “neither makes great financial sense nor satisfies people who just want DVDs.””

Wow! I see Jessie is a very loyal employee!


38 posted on 07/13/2011 7:23:51 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: jpsb

What do you watch?
I’ve relinquished interest in “latest, now” in favor of “whatever I can find in the rather large catalog”. My Netflix streaming queue is as big as my DVD queue, and I have no interest in first-run stuff ‘cuz there’s so much to catch up on that I wanted to see first-run but missed.

Disclaimer: Having 2 toddlers I don’t have much time to watch anything, and when I do it’s either what they want (big catalog of kids’s stuff, commercial free, right now) or some under-60-minutes thing (working thru Top Shot now).


39 posted on 07/13/2011 7:24:14 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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In contrast, I’ll drop the DVD option and keep streaming.

I'll recommend that to my husband once I've seen all the "Midsomer Murders" episodes.

On the other hand, another $6-8 a month ... he spends that in a stop at a coffee shop just because he was 10 minutes early for something.

40 posted on 07/13/2011 7:24:30 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("This is a revolution, damn it! We're going to have to offend somebody!" ~ John Adams)
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To: Mercat
they pulled any access to anything but the first year of Doc Martin

I couldn't get into that ... there wasn't a single character that I liked even slightly.

41 posted on 07/13/2011 7:26:06 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("This is a revolution, damn it! We're going to have to offend somebody!" ~ John Adams)
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To: NoNAIS

Personally, I have two accounts (complicated...). On the account that was unlimited streaming plus 3 DVDs, I dropped that to 2 DVDs only and no streaming. Saved $10/month.

I’m ok with that...not sure how Netflix came out ahead in my particular transaction, however.....


42 posted on 07/13/2011 7:26:06 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Dacula

I just copied our two DVD queues, so I have the list of ~300 discs.
Short of finding a “must see” therein, I’ll switch to streaming-only tonight.


43 posted on 07/13/2011 7:26:32 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Dacula

The Netflix Blog got 5000 comments yesterday, and it is accepting no more comments.

lol

http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=2765056849626104020&postID=6660458436715562257

People (including me) are not happy with this big increase (percentage-wise). They just raised rates in January.

I guess their stock price hitting over $300/share has given them the ‘big head’.


44 posted on 07/13/2011 7:27:44 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Infralutheran

Blockbuster has a similar program for renting DVDs by mail, but it costs $11.99 a month. The good thing is they get a lot of the new releases almost a month earlier than Netflix, and if you live near a participating store, you can return your dvd to the store and select a new one up to 5 times a month.”

Wouldn’t it be ironic if after all this Blockbuster came out ahead, seeing as Netflix knocked it into bankruptcy?


45 posted on 07/13/2011 7:27:53 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Bean Counter
It is unfortunate that they didn't catch the customers like you who don't stream at all and send them a different e-mail.

It should be that if you don't do anything your bill will go DOWN - to just the mail no streaming.

As it is, when you do something, that will be to SAVE money.

It separated out the costs to make a more attractive option for people like you who don't stream - it just got sold wrong - and bad that the onus is on you to change it or your bill doubles for a service you don't use.

But it is saving me money - you also, either a couple bucks or all of it - depending on if you cancel. ;)

46 posted on 07/13/2011 7:27:53 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Infralutheran

“... if you live near a participating store”

I will say that we have a problem now living near a participating store. Use to have one in our main town but that closed. I have noticed a lot of the stores closing and the nearest available one to us takes a good 20 minutes to drive to (one way and not in rush hour). However, you are right about living near one and getting five turn ins a month. (plus, you get to keep that movie as long as you wish)


47 posted on 07/13/2011 7:27:56 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Dacula
Those who want to rent up to two DVDs at a time with streaming will pay $20 per month, or 33 percent more.

I selected this option at least a couple months ago. The change occurred before that.
48 posted on 07/13/2011 7:30:59 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Dacula

Got my email yesterday and was bummed. Netflix is kind of a guilty pleasure for us. I like the dvds, hubby likes the streaming. We tend to live pay-to-pay, so even though it has only been a lousy $9.99/mo., by jumping to $15.98/mo. - well, that’s over 100 miles in gas. Gotta cancel. We’ll get movies from the library.


49 posted on 07/13/2011 7:31:23 AM PDT by indubitably
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To: Dacula

Some alternatives:

Hulu/hulu plus ($7.99)

Amazon prime ($79/year) unlimited streaming, limited selection.

Google videos (TV/Movies section)

Fancast.com/xfinity tv

Crackle.com

Archive.org [classics/public domain movies and TV]


50 posted on 07/13/2011 7:36:00 AM PDT by TomGuy
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