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Ala. churches lead opposition to immigration law
Associated Press ^ | Wednesday, July 13, 2011 3:53 PM EDT | JAY REEVES

Posted on 07/13/2011 1:56:49 PM PDT by Hunton Peck

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (AP) — For some believers and church leaders, opposing Alabama's toughest-in-the-nation law against illegal immigration is a chance for Bible Belt redemption.

During the civil rights movement of the 1950s and `60s, many state churches didn't join the fight to end Jim Crow laws and racial segregation. Some cross-burning Ku Klux Klan members took off their hoods and sat in the pews with everyone else on Sunday mornings, and relatively few white congregations actively opposed segregation. Some black churches were hesitant to get involved for fear of white backlash.

Now that Alabama has passed what's widely considered the nation's most restrictive state law against illegal immigration, mainstream churches, faith-based organizations and individual members are leading opposition to the act. Some see their involvement as a way to avoid repeating mistakes of the past.

"I think what happened in the `60s may be a stimulus for the action that you have seen many of the churches taking on this," said Chriss H. Doss, an attorney and ordained Southern Baptist minister.

Matt Lacey, pastor of a United Methodist church once attended by Birmingham's infamous segregationist police commissioner Eugene "Bull" Connor, said there are all sorts of reasons Alabama Christians are opposed to the law. Making amends for the past inaction of religious groups is among them, he said.

"For me, as pastor of a church that was engaged in that battle, it is very important," said Lacey. "If we take redemption very seriously, then it not only covers our sins but our past actions as a church. I think for some, there is a tendency to want to be on the side of right on this issue. ... I would like to think the church just wants to do what's right."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: aidingandabetting; aliens; churches; communityorganizer; corruption; criminalaliens; criminalchurches; democratplantation; democrats; dixie; illegalimmigration; illegalinvasion; immigration; leftwingextremism; liberalfascism; liberalism; liberals; progressives; revoketaxexemption
It's as if their Bibles left the "no" out of "Go and sin no more."

Their idea for redemption for tacit support of unjust laws is to urge violation of just laws.

1 posted on 07/13/2011 1:56:54 PM PDT by Hunton Peck
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To: Hunton Peck
Now that Alabama has passed what's widely considered the nation's most restrictive state law against illegal immigration, mainstream mainline churches, faith-based organizations and individual members are leading opposition to the act.

Mainline churches are, with a few exceptions, not mainstream in Christian orthodoxy, but rather are cults.

2 posted on 07/13/2011 1:59:09 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: Hunton Peck

Just unbelievable, but the Methodist Church has long ago gone the way of the Episcopals, etc. All the more reason to go with the evangelical movement.


3 posted on 07/13/2011 2:01:12 PM PDT by izzatzo (Palin2012, she's one of us.)
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To: Thane_Banquo

You nailed it!

Cults


4 posted on 07/13/2011 2:02:42 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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5 posted on 07/13/2011 2:04:22 PM PDT by Maverick68
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To: Thane_Banquo

Cults of self-worship, which is ultimately Satan-worship by proxy, I’d say.


6 posted on 07/13/2011 2:05:16 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


7 posted on 07/13/2011 2:07:17 PM PDT by HiJinx (Old Cold Warrior)
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Stupid white guilt. That really has gotten us a long way hasn’t it?


8 posted on 07/13/2011 2:08:03 PM PDT by Past Your Eyes (NO MORE SECOND TERMS!!)
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To: Hunton Peck
Leaders of the United Methodist Church, the Episcopal Church, the Lutheran Church and the Roman Catholic Church all have criticized the law as running counter to biblical teachings about caring for neighbors, helping visitors and showing hospitality to strangers.

Except for the UMC, those denominations do not have large memberships in Alabama. And the UMC has long been associated with leftist causes nationally.

This does not represent as many Christians as the article might lead readers to believe.

9 posted on 07/13/2011 2:16:17 PM PDT by Will88
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The Souf' still has a certain crowd that loves they's servant class ~ they love's they lawn boys and they love's they cheap tarts.

Time for the Souf' to be brought into the 21st century.

A general repudiation of the idea that they need body servants would be a good start.

10 posted on 07/13/2011 2:17:41 PM PDT by muawiyah
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So, these good people are openly advocating violation of U.S. law? I would kick their tax exempt status into oblivion immediately. If theirs is not a political position, then someone please redefine the exemption for me.


11 posted on 07/13/2011 2:24:01 PM PDT by Temujinshordes
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To: Hunton Peck

This article needs a ‘Barf Alert’.


12 posted on 07/13/2011 2:25:50 PM PDT by DFG (Can We Bankrupt The Country? YES WE CAN)
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To: Will88
"counter to biblical teachings about caring for neighbors, helping visitors and showing hospitality to strangers."

Applying that concept to this situation is so far out of the Biblical context that I simply don't know where to begin. But then, a lot of these liberal churches stopped interpreting scripture correctly a long time ago.

13 posted on 07/13/2011 2:32:29 PM PDT by alancarp (Liberals are all for shared pain... until they're included in the pain group.)
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To: Hunton Peck

Send all the caught illegal immigrants to those Ala. churches.... =.=


14 posted on 07/13/2011 2:32:34 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Will88

Indeed. It is only the left field churches and they are not plentiful in Alabama.


15 posted on 07/13/2011 2:50:23 PM PDT by Blackandproud
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To: cranked

This is such horse blank.

Because they feel guilty about not supporting the civil rights movement, they feel that today they should be liberal about illegal alien issues????

Because they were on the “wrong side of history” then, what makes them think that being liberal on illegal issues is the right side of history now?????

I just don’t see how these two issues are connected in people’s minds.

Generally, good Christians don’t pander to liberals, and bend over backwards on issues to prove how liberal they are.


16 posted on 07/13/2011 2:50:52 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Thane_Banquo

The always behind the times and common sense churches are stupid with their “black guilt” that they will now be overly stupid and support the illegal alien invasion of America.

Stupid stupid churches. I guess they are hoping some of the illegal aliens will join their churches and give a little money, when of course most illegal aliens are only out for what they can beg, borrow or steal or get free from the un-American government.


17 posted on 07/13/2011 2:59:51 PM PDT by lephantom
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To: Hunton Peck

They also like Fidel Castro and have always supported him...strange bunch.


18 posted on 07/13/2011 3:01:54 PM PDT by capt. norm (Blessed are they who can laugh at themselves for they shall never run out of material. c)
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Why don’t these “churches” open up their doors and ask all of the illegals to come to their churches and they will pay for all of their expenses. They should agree to pay all of their food cost, all of their health care cost, all of the cost for educating all of their kids, etc. using their own church funds.

Have at it apostate churches.


19 posted on 07/13/2011 3:13:41 PM PDT by abcc2011 (Christian and conservative.)
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To: Hunton Peck

Another reason, I refuse to go to any major organized Church.


20 posted on 07/13/2011 3:43:16 PM PDT by packrat35 (America is rapidly becoming a police state that East Germany could be proud of!)
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To: Hunton Peck

“Cults of self-worship, which is ultimately Satan-worship by proxy, I’d say.”

Probable, but the important factor is that churches that are members of the National Counsel of Churches are commies in all but name.


21 posted on 07/13/2011 4:29:09 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles, Kill the EPA!!!)
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To: izzatzo
It was reported way back when Samuel Johnson, a high Episcopalian, believed that Methodists drank blood and sacrificed children.

So, have the Episcopals taken up blood, or have the Methodists abandoned it?

22 posted on 07/13/2011 4:32:54 PM PDT by muawiyah
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It must come down to filling the pews filled.The Baptists membership is on the decline so much to the extent they passed amnesty,the dream act and they want a path to citizenship for all illegals. The church see illegals mainly the many have low educations and want ask so many questions,, the baptists see illegals as future memebers they can mold and shape into what they want. The church overlooks, hispanics have the highest Out-of-Wedlock Births , many from Mexico, they have families in Mexico and once they move here, the men are incline to frequent brothels, designed for illegals. The brothels have developed a series of standard operating practices, experts say. Among them:

•Once the girls and women are in the United States and under the traffickers’ control, they are moved from one brothel to another in rapid succession, rarely spending more than one or two weeks in one place. The rotations prevent disoriented victims from establishing roots or escaping, and keep faces fresh for customers.
•Most advertise, sometimes in the classifieds of Spanish-language newspapers, or more frequently by handing out “tarjetas,” business cards with codes for brothels, on the street. An officer from the Chicago vice squad told NBC News that his group uncovered boxes of business cards during a recent brothel raid that advertised tacos and burritos for delivery 24-hours a day. Potential customers are screened on the telephone or at the door to make sure they are members of the targeted ethnic group.
•Within the brothel, usually a typical house or apartment, a unique accounting strategy uses tokens such as poker chips and marbles, which are purchased by the “johns” and given as proof of purchase to the women and girls to keep track of how many men have visited them. A token, which costs $30 in the majority of cases, buys 15 minutes of sex in a sparse bedroom. According to the Polaris Project, an organization that operates a national hotline and offers services for victims of all types of human trafficking,one victim reported that she was forced to have sex with 55 men in one day.Churchs overlooks that, overlooks using fake or stolen documents, overlooks driving without licenses/insurance, the church has losts it’s way and just see what they want to see


23 posted on 07/13/2011 6:27:12 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: Hunton Peck

Those churches might be guilty of practices that should cost them their tax-excempt status.


24 posted on 07/19/2011 10:10:58 AM PDT by Dante3
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