Posted on 07/13/2011 2:16:45 PM PDT by izzatzo
Laura Ingraham grills Mitch McConnell on his Plan Z option, floated yesterday as a last-ditch approach to the debt ceiling issue, and McConnell argues the benefits of the plan as a defense of Republicans against getting saddled with blame for economic damage done during a potential default. Ingraham asks McConnell whether he’s positioning as a “realist,” and McConnell says that reality will be that Obama won’t compromise in this process. If not, and Republicans don’t blink, Obama will have the upper hand:
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Mitch McConnell waving a piece of paper bragging about a "budget for our time"
....or the Tea Party freshmen saying "We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender"?
But getting saddled with the blame for abject capitulation in the face of a win-win situation is okay?
If McConnell thinks this plan will give him political cover amongst independents, he’s a fool. The American people aren’t that stupid. You can’t give the President power to do something and then act like you opposed it. That’s just plain idiotic.
Not exactly abject capitulation.
The plan calls for Obama to approach Congress with spending cuts.
Obama has been totally unwilling to do this in the current behind-closed-door process. Now the WHITE HOUSE must INITIATE cuts BEFORE coming to Congress.
I see some value here.
FUMM. Another reason why...
Legislatures (state and federal) can be part-time jobs with 1/10th pay, NO retirement, NO perks, NO insurance. Get a job. Pay for your own crap, you POS politicians.
“...That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness...”
ALTER it.
It’s the socialism, stupid (MM). STOP SPENDING! DEFUND all socialist collectives, foreign and domestic.
Wake up, IDIOT.
This is easy. Te RAT Senate will pass the Bitch Bill and a RINO/RAT coalition in the house will pass it too. Obama will sign it. Case closed. Bring on the election.
They would not just ACT like they opposed it.
They WILL.
And Obama will then own it. Debt hikes...NO CUTS. Plain and simple for all to see.
Voodoo Republicans: Don’t read their lips - watch their hands.
That’s BS. 100% BS. The fact is McConnell approved this plan, and it requires Republican votes to pass. The Republicans will own capitulating the power of Congress to the President, and that’s exactly what this plan does.
I see Dana Perino saying McConnel was doing the right thing, and she doesn't seem to get it either. Seems a lot of the Bush staffers were RINOs too.
If it really was so clever, he should have coordinated with the House leadership in deploying it, so that he didn't appear to be a free-agent offering up his "plan b" to the surprise of the other Republicans in the negotiations.
All that McConnell accomplished was to give the MSM the story-line that the Republicans were caving, and allowed the MSM to ignore Obama's actions.
I say again, this negotiating with Obama should never have happened. Boehner and McConnell should have forced these negotiations into the Senate, where it properly belongs. Let Obama and Reid work out the Democrat plan in the Senate budget, and then use the budget reconciliation process to hammer out the details with the Republicans in the House.
Make Obama look like a bystander, not the controlling power-player.
-PJ
Nice try of trying to back out of your lame-brained plan McConnell. You exposed yourself as a bona-fide RINO.
You can get Obama out of office legally and constitutionally, but you’re proposing plans that undo the Constitution. Impeach Obama for the lawlessness he is already doing.
The so-called 'benefit' to him is that he wants to insulate the Republican Party from blame for any potential shortcoming. That's being a very good party ideologue. Notice how his constituants are not mentioned at all, with no consideration given to those who count. That would be us if anybody is wondering.
Ingraham asks McConnell whether he’s positioning as a “realist,” and McConnell says that reality will be that Obama won’t compromise in this process. If not, and Republicans don’t blink, Obama will have the upper hand.
I'm sorry, but I can't stomach any more of this. Have at it. I'll be busy insulating myself from politicians like this guy. "We can only win by losing". That's just great.
LLS
No, it does not.
You're not up to speed.
Repubs will still NOT vote on it if Obama does not introduce spending. He has not done it behind closed doors so McConnell is challenging him to do it in Congress IF he wants Repub votes.
Otherwise Obama owns this thing without ONE Repub vote.
Peas in our time?
TEA party vs Pea party?
Peas'd off enough already?
This plan will fail in the House.
Obama will assert that he has the authority to extend the debt ceiling under the 14th Amendment. I bet he has a team of Constitutional lawyers preparing a barrage of briefs to throw at Congress at a moment’s notice.
Obama will raise the debt ceiling by Executive Order and then tell Congress to take it to the SCOTUS if they do not like his call.
The Republicans will go along with this and we will end up with a bunch of “closed loopholes” and fewer “corporate welfare” subsidies that Obama will claim as tax hikes.
Oh, well....
You’re the one that’s not up to speed. This plan has to pass Congress, which requires GOP votes, and then Obama gets to propose the cuts. First, Congress votes on ceding the authority for the President to raise the debt ceiling up to 2.3 trillion dollars unless two thirds of both houses vote it down. After that initial bill is made “law,” Obama is supposed to come back three times with cuts if he wants to, and then he gets his debt ceiling raise unless two-thirds of both houses oppose it. The substantive effect of this plan is Congress capitulates to the President and the deficit continues as is.
NO. So you’re willing to do “whatever it takes”? Including destroying the Constitution and the nation in the process? McConnell’s scheme is like burning down your own house (the U.S. Constitution) to get rid of a rat(DemoRAT, Obama). Just like in the cartoons and in the movies, the rat always survives, but in the end, your dog-gone house is burned to the ground in stupid attempts at killing the rat.
If the Republicans wanted to stop Obama, they can do it without destroying the Constitution. The liar in chief has already done several things that are impeachable offenses, but they won’t do it. They are not even investigating the question of Obama being illegal for the office! The question needs to raised and answered once and for all about natural born status. The wimpy Republicans are just that... wimpy, weak and pathetic. Where are the real, strong, God-fearing, conservatives who will take on the liar Obama lawfully and legally?!
Playing gold with Obama? Sorry bad joke but seeing Boner playing golf with Obama was sad with the way things are headed.
Mitch has no idea that he’s fighting the last war with transparently calculated subterfuge.
“Obama will assert that he has the authority to extend the debt ceiling under the 14th Amendment.”
Why not force him to do it before caving in? Obama could be bluffing and will never have the guts. If Obama really does it and the Supreme Court lets him get away with it, Congress could pass a debt limit extension at any time.
It will be the “sons on a beach” opposing Barry the Bastard.
And we shall never ever surrender
There is. Rush criticized McConnell today, but his heart wasn't in it. He even said he understood why people were supporting the proposal.
I want a clean deal, too. But McConnell's no dummy to push the whole mess onto Obama if he won't negotiate.
The bottom of the plan is the debt ceiling is raised without spending cuts.
Gee, Mitch, I would swear that is exactly what you are doing.
Surrendering responsibility.
The GOP will still be held responsible for surrendering their responsibility.
“Plan B” shows the GOP does not deserve to win
I’m going with McConnel on this one.
Obama knows 10% unemployment and a recession is inevitable at this point. If the debt ceiling is not raised Obama and the media will blame it on the Republicans and all economic woes will be dump in the laps of the GOP? And, yes the American people are that STUPID. Why do you think a vacuous, neophyte, coke head, puppet was elected president with vague promises of change?
Raise it now and let Obama wallow in the economic excrement he and the Dems created. Once a real fiscal conservative is elected president, cut, cut, cut.
I wish MM would make a racist comment so we could get rid of him!
I should have made the timeline more clear.
I think Obama will invoke the 14th Amendment on August 1st, then look at Boehner to “negotiate” the budget deal.
A lot = most, including his abortion loving wife, and mother. Parino is just a cute talking head socialist light. Ask her what she thinks oh Bachman or Palin and watch the veins pop out on her neck as she tries not to get real nasty.
If she took Beckels position, no one would notice.
The alternative to wimpy, is complicit, and at this point I am willing to consider the latter.
I think that it was that "Compassionate Conservative" thingy.
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