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As debt-ceiling crisis grows, McConnell warns default could 'destroy' GOP (Then put it on Obama)
LA Times ^ | 7/13/2011 | James Oliphant

Posted on 07/13/2011 3:56:48 PM PDT by tobyhill

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1 posted on 07/13/2011 3:56:53 PM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

At this point, I’m beginning to think that might be a good thing.


2 posted on 07/13/2011 4:00:54 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: tobyhill
Time to eat your peas.

Default on our own terms rather than have it thrust upon us.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

3 posted on 07/13/2011 4:01:27 PM PDT by expatguy (Donations make Expat Better!)
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To: tobyhill

So be it. Bring in the calvary, we can do this. If the GOP gives in, a new party emerges. Folks we are at a fork in the road. Interesting times.

** Sounds as if he is on the side of if we dont raise we are in trouble and its our fault. Brilliant McSenator, just brilliant/s grr


4 posted on 07/13/2011 4:01:32 PM PDT by GoCards (RUN SARAH RUN)
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To: tobyhill

GOP is already damaged goods, loves taking a beating.


5 posted on 07/13/2011 4:01:32 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: tobyhill

Idiot. Already accepting blame and defeat. Typical Rino.


6 posted on 07/13/2011 4:01:32 PM PDT by petercooper (2012 - Purge more RINO's.)
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To: GoCards
Exactly

Markets about to open here in a couple hours in SE Asia - the dollar is going to get pounded bad FRiends.

7 posted on 07/13/2011 4:03:26 PM PDT by expatguy (Donations make Expat Better!)
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The GOP House needs to pass a bill with equal cuts then tell the Senate Rats and Obama to take it or leave it. If they reject it then they own it.
8 posted on 07/13/2011 4:04:00 PM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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To: Brilliant

dont flame me but, yeah, he might be right. with only the house in control, it might be a bridge too far.

better to capture the persidency and senate in 2012 then bring out the chainsaw


9 posted on 07/13/2011 4:04:23 PM PDT by beebuster2000
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To: GoCards
So be it. Bring in the calvary, we can do this.

We're going to get crucified?
10 posted on 07/13/2011 4:04:36 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: tobyhill
..."a default by the United States Republicans could critically damage (his) the party heading into the 2012 elections".

There, fixed it for the chicken weasel.

11 posted on 07/13/2011 4:05:00 PM PDT by Jane Long (2 Chron 7:14)
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To: aruanan

Huh?


12 posted on 07/13/2011 4:05:28 PM PDT by GoCards (RUN SARAH RUN)
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To: Brilliant

No doubt. Bitch shoal be checked for mental functions. The man might be in need of treatment.


13 posted on 07/13/2011 4:06:00 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: tobyhill

This is just unbelievable. Is Obama blackmailing Mitch McConnell or something? Is he secretly gay? Has he committed a felony that the FBI knows about?

How many times have we seen this sort of thing happen over the past 20 or 30 years, where the GOP leaders cave at the crucial moment?

If they do it again, with our country falling over a cliff, the GOP is dead. Dead, dead, dead. Gone with the Whigs.

No more.


14 posted on 07/13/2011 4:06:49 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: tobyhill

Raising taxes will destroy your brand.Get to the mike and explain what is going on that Obama has spent more than all of the prior Presidents combined and then look into the camera and tell him we are broke and can not spend anymore it is time to really eat our pease President Obama and face up to the reality of this situation.That all of his retoric of pulling tax breaks will create even more unemployment and not amount to a hill of beans!


15 posted on 07/13/2011 4:07:26 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: aruanan

We already have. McConnell should be tarred and feathered.


16 posted on 07/13/2011 4:08:02 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: tobyhill

The Republican Party acts like a battered wife. She knows it’s not her fault but still can’t help blaming herself and enabling her abuser.


17 posted on 07/13/2011 4:08:57 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: tobyhill

18 posted on 07/13/2011 4:09:11 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Cicero

Is it coincidence he caved at the exact time Obama was talking about no social security?


19 posted on 07/13/2011 4:09:20 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: tobyhill
Decoding the smoke, mirrors and constatn blather from inside the beltway is an answer to the question

What is the value of Free Republic?

20 posted on 07/13/2011 4:09:30 PM PDT by don-o (Abolish FReepathons. Be a monthly donor.)
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To: tobyhill

McCoo-coo and Boner both need to be defaulted to the unemployment lines. I’d like one person to ask obozo if he will cut off his check when he cuts off grandma’s.


21 posted on 07/13/2011 4:09:36 PM PDT by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him))
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To: tobyhill

That was yesterday my FRiends and it is going be BRUTAL today - so be prepared.

There is NOTHING left to keep this house of cards up!

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

22 posted on 07/13/2011 4:10:13 PM PDT by expatguy (Donations make Expat Better!)
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To: screaminsunshine

Fox just reported Obama basically walked out of todays meeting... “Left abruptly”...as was stated. So somebody’s stepping on his toes.


23 posted on 07/13/2011 4:10:45 PM PDT by caww
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To: tobyhill

The One: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/The%20TRuth%20by%20Michael%20D%27Atuono.jpg


24 posted on 07/13/2011 4:11:39 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: tobyhill

The only thing a default will do is stop Obamas Acorn based spending COLD, and catch him raiding Social Security funds to pay his fascist union friends.

BRING IT!


25 posted on 07/13/2011 4:12:52 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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26 posted on 07/13/2011 4:15:02 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: caww

OBAMA NEEDS POUNDING. The press will not, so someone has to. AT LAST.

I hope Obmama freaks like the muling psychopomp he truly is, showing America what a POS it has for “resident.”


27 posted on 07/13/2011 4:15:24 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: tobyhill

Default is not an automatic result of not raising the debt ceiling. Obama would have to CHOOSE to default rather than cut out other spending, which would expose him to questions about his priorities. Why ruin OUR credit rating while we are sending billions abroad to the likes of Greece and Pakistan? Why ruin our economy and fund Obamacare, the NEA, and a Woodstock museum? Why spend the unspent stimulus money if you are going to harm our credit rating? There is NO downside to the Republicans staying firm on this.


28 posted on 07/13/2011 4:16:47 PM PDT by jimmygrace
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To: caww

I just heard that too and something about how he won’t accept a short term deal.

Give him a short term deal with equal cuts and force his hand.


29 posted on 07/13/2011 4:16:55 PM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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To: tobyhill
It is all about the Media. This article by the LA Times.

We have said it over and over and over; the majority electorate sees (and believes) the world through the Media. It is not attentive, cognizant, nor perspicacious enough to go anywhere beyond the headlines.

And "they" know it.

30 posted on 07/13/2011 4:18:32 PM PDT by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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To: tobyhill

If this defeatist really want to see the GOP go down in flames then just cave to Obama. It is about time the republicans stop cowering and giving in as they always do. Instead of these cry baby speeches lets hear a speech about who is really to blame here. And lets hear a speech about how close we are to the edge if we don’t stop the borrowing game.

The funny thing is that when the day comes that we fall off the cliff the republicans are going to get blamed for it by the democrats, no matter what they do. The republicans just can’t figure out how to fight back. If Reagan were here then he would show how it is done.

Oh wait... Obama has been trying to twist Reagan for his own gain as of late. And the republicans are letting him get away with it.

The republicans have Mathematical facts, and common sense on their side, and yet they act like they don’t have a clue.

Speak out Republicans! Show the left for insanity that they are.


31 posted on 07/13/2011 4:20:14 PM PDT by Revel
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To: tobyhill


32 posted on 07/13/2011 4:22:45 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: jnsun
Of course the Media will spin anything the GOP does so it's time for the GOP to go head to head against Obama and don't give in.
33 posted on 07/13/2011 4:23:17 PM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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To: caww

Obama is mentally ill.

This is situation is going to bring him to the brink.

And I want to say this about that No Chin weak in the knees no spine is he being blackmailed Mcconnell.

This is not 1995.

We are not ruled by the media anymore.

The internet has leveled the playing field.

The American Public is outraged .


34 posted on 07/13/2011 4:23:51 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: tobyhill

Just a thought.

Let’s say we default. President Obama thus has a perfect opportunity to declare a State of Emergency, and all that entails.

The political class is largely insulated from the effects of an SOE declaration. But what about everyone else?

A win/win for the political class. They emerge as the true rulers. Of course, there will be some resistance, but with the majority of Americans too dumb, or too willing to embrace a “savior” (ie, the political class) in a time of great uncertainty, I expect resistance would be minimal, sporadic, and isolated. And of course, if things get rough, remember the Bonus March (my dad always hated Douglas MacArthur for that one), when the American military opened fire on WWI veterans.

I’m going to bed......late here in Berlin. For what its worth, the GOP will fold like a cheap suit, probably in the next 7 to 10 days; that’s my political gut feeling. We shall see.


35 posted on 07/13/2011 4:25:05 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (America is the land of opportunity; live in it. -Bruce Campbell)
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To: caww

Well Carney did say earlier today that he (Obama) didnt like to be “yelled” at. Bless his heart


36 posted on 07/13/2011 4:25:05 PM PDT by GoCards (RUN SARAH RUN)
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To: RummyChick

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/07/13/3012656/cantors-role-in-debt-talks-could.html

“This could blow up, and with it his ambitions,” said Larry Sabato, the director of the University of Virginia Center for Politics. And Sabato, who has known Cantor for 20 years, says Cantor is full of “pure ambition. He wants to be speaker.”

Conservatives are watching closely. “If the talks result in what’s perceived as a cave-in,” then Cantor’s political future is at risk, said Michael Franc, the vice president for government studies at the conservative Heritage Foundation


37 posted on 07/13/2011 4:27:30 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: tobyhill; Candor7

Also being said that any advances which might have been made feel thru when he walked out. He is trying so hard to be significant...not working like everything else he does when he gets his pants in a knot.

If he’s going to act like a kid instead of a leader then I don’t blame them for not areeing to anything this guy lays on the table. Besides he doesn’t care if or not what is agreed on except that which he can say came about because of him...he may be surprised what will be because of him...he’s forgetting they are where they are because he didn;t push for a balanced budget a long long time ago. Now in the final hour he wants to “shine” ...not happening thus far.


38 posted on 07/13/2011 4:32:40 PM PDT by caww
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To: chris_bdba

OOPPPPPSSS pease= peas


39 posted on 07/13/2011 4:34:20 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: tobyhill

It’s worth remembering that the Senate Republicans never signed on to the Pledge To America.


40 posted on 07/13/2011 4:34:40 PM PDT by Siegfried X
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To: tobyhill
> A default, McConnell told talk show host Laura Ingraham, “destroys your brand.”

What brand? The Republicans haven't stood for anything in 15 years.
41 posted on 07/13/2011 4:38:33 PM PDT by Siegfried X
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To: caww

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/07/john_boehner_will_eat_his_peas.html



"Is this how Congress avoided gridlock in the fifties? Almost definitely."
42 posted on 07/13/2011 4:41:22 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: tobyhill

It’s the hacks in both parties, like McConnell, that have us in the shape we are in now. For decades, no matter what party was in control, they ARE the ones who got us to this point.

They are all incapable of dealing with it, because they created it. Only new members, not currupted by DC, can save this country now. Which mean, the likes of The Gobbler and Bonehead MUST be put out to pasture.


43 posted on 07/13/2011 4:42:41 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: RummyChick

ROTFLOL....too funny! It’s a circus that’s for sure. Worse than kids in a sandbox!


44 posted on 07/13/2011 4:48:41 PM PDT by caww
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To: tobyhill

The price of getting rid of all the moderates ??

hmmmmmm...

awful tempting..


45 posted on 07/13/2011 4:51:05 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: Cicero

Does Mitch play an instrument by chance?

Maybe he can play for the Emperor personally, Orrin can assist on banjo, Boehner can whistle. ;-)


46 posted on 07/13/2011 4:52:56 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: jimmygrace
There is NO downside to the Republicans staying firm on this.

Exactly....but there sure is political loss for Ob if this isn't a go. He's getting pressure Internationally now as well. 'IMF" has chimmed in, and now "Moody's" is pouring on the heat to lower the US rating. So Bo's putting the pressure on Seniors....knows they will call their Representatives....they startle easily and Bo knows that.

47 posted on 07/13/2011 4:56:36 PM PDT by caww
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Only a coward would knowingly force future generations into debt slavery rather than face simple budgeting facts. Since Mitch McConnell has no stomach for this, Mitch McConnell should get out of the way or step down. Mitch McConnell is not the Republican Party.
48 posted on 07/13/2011 4:58:28 PM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: GoCards

Yea, I saw Obama gets his pants in a knot if people raise their voices....evidences once again that he thinks he’s “King”.......he walks out...like a chicken.

It is said if you can’t stand the heat get out of the kitchen......so he can always leave the Presidency..I wouldn’t shed a tear...I’d be rejoicing!


49 posted on 07/13/2011 5:01:28 PM PDT by caww
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To: boomop1

The GOP. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory since 1948.


50 posted on 07/13/2011 5:08:54 PM PDT by princeofdarkness (The Obama Administration is circling the wagons. But the Truth Indians are using flaming arrows.)
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