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Police: Mom Left Kids In Hot Car, Beat Good Samaritan
WRTV 6 (Indianapolis) ^ | 7/13/11 | n/a

Posted on 07/13/2011 4:02:33 PM PDT by DemforBush

INDIANAPOLIS -- An Indianapolis mother has been arrested, accused of leaving her children in a hot car and then beating a woman who stepped in to help, police said...

(Excerpt) Read more at theindychannel.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: kids; violence
Yikes.
1 posted on 07/13/2011 4:02:37 PM PDT by DemforBush
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To: DemforBush

“She said, ‘I hope you’re happy with yourself and you can live with yourself, because I’m going to lose my job and my kids,’”
Losers always blame others for the consequences of their screwups.


2 posted on 07/13/2011 4:06:13 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: DemforBush

If you saw a child alone in a hot car, what’s the first thing you would do?

Choice Votes Percentage of 5,604 Votes

A: call 911 3,916 70%

B: try to get the child out 1,421 25%

C: try to find the child’s parents 179 3%

D: other


3 posted on 07/13/2011 4:06:27 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: DemforBush

She does deserve to lose her kids!


4 posted on 07/13/2011 4:12:01 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: DemforBush

Well this will ultimately come down to what the actual situation was. Among the things we know are:

1. Mom had her eye on the situation since when the stranger stepped in she was right there.

2. Mom was trying to work for a living.

Among the things we don’t know:

A. Were the windows in fact cracked so that children were not in a car continually heating up.

B. Did the children have liquids to drink.

C. Was this a problem caused by an unexpected day car issue.

Sure 88 is a hot temperature, but lots of kids were raised pre-AC in such temps.


5 posted on 07/13/2011 4:13:07 PM PDT by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: DemforBush

I thought what was interesting was that both the Mom of the kids, and the other Mom had the same first Name - Heather.


6 posted on 07/13/2011 4:14:42 PM PDT by Dustoff45 (A good woman brings out the best in a good man! A better woman might be just what this nation needs)
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To: DemforBush

7 posted on 07/13/2011 4:15:57 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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8 posted on 07/13/2011 4:15:57 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: JLS

Dude..a ONE year old infant...are you serious? There is NO possible excuse for doing that, ever...


9 posted on 07/13/2011 4:16:15 PM PDT by ken5050 (Save the earth..it's the ONLY planet with CHOCOLATE!!!)
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To: DemforBush

As the mother was on the scene, this could just be a busy body.


10 posted on 07/13/2011 4:17:47 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: SandRat
First, I would call 9/11, and then I would see if I could get the child out while waiting for them to arrive. Would 9/11 advise a caller to do everything to get the child out or tell them to stand by while they cooked?



11 posted on 07/13/2011 4:18:01 PM PDT by DejaJude
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To: JLS
"Sure 88 is a hot temperature, but lots of kids were raised pre-AC in such temps."

On an 88 degree day the temperature in a closed car can rise to 105F even with the windows cracked. If they were rolled up even higher then you're approaching 120 or better.

http://www.mydogiscool.com/x_car_study.php

12 posted on 07/13/2011 4:19:31 PM PDT by SkyDancer (You know, they invented wheelbarrows to teach FAA inspectors to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: DemforBush

Windows rolled up.
A/C turned off.
Did NOT say mother was watching, just that she accosted the samaritan when the mother approached the car.


13 posted on 07/13/2011 4:19:45 PM PDT by dadgum (Overjoyed to be a Pariah)
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To: DejaJude

They would probably tell you you to get the kids out while the response team traveled there.


14 posted on 07/13/2011 4:22:03 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: JLS

Try that in Arkansas, and you could spend 1-5 years in the state prison for a felony.


15 posted on 07/13/2011 4:22:34 PM PDT by DCBryan1 (Forget the Lawyers....first kill the journalists! - Die Ritter, die sagen, nee)
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To: JLS

I’m surprised it was only 88.
Monday was a real scorcher here in Indy.

Even if it was 50 degrees, leaving a 1 and 4 yr old alone in a supermarket lot is certainly questionable.

Not a bad part of town, but still.....


16 posted on 07/13/2011 4:22:57 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: JLS

“Was this a problem causes by an unexpected day care issue”

So, if the babysitter calls out sick then it is okay to leave a 4 year old and a 1 year old baby in a hot car?!! Kudos to the stranger who decided to step in FOR THE WELFARE of innocent children. If I was her, I would rest very easily knowing that I did the right thing instead of assuming the kids had drinks and the babysitter was sick.


17 posted on 07/13/2011 4:23:20 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: SandRat

I have no doubt that, If I couldn’t get the doors open, I would accidentally lose control of the baseball bat I just happen to keep in my car and just happen to smash open a few windows

then call Child Services (because of where I used to work I have several of their emergency response workers on speed dial)


18 posted on 07/13/2011 4:24:52 PM PDT by Quis Custodiet (.)
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To: SandRat

I have no doubt that, If I couldn’t get the doors open, I would accidentally lose control of the baseball bat I just happen to keep in my car and just happen to smash open a few windows

then call Child Services (because of where I used to work I have several of their emergency response workers on speed dial)


19 posted on 07/13/2011 4:24:58 PM PDT by Quis Custodiet (.)
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To: JLS

The car windows were shut and the air conditioner was off.


20 posted on 07/13/2011 4:34:02 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: JLS

1. Who said Mom was right there? She was inside a grocery store.

2. There’s nothing to indicate the Mom was working at the store at the time of the incident.

A. The story states the windows were rolled up.

B. Does it matter?

C. Who the hell cares?!?!

On an 88 degree day, a car can heat up to 110 quickly. You’re as dumb as she is.


21 posted on 07/13/2011 4:37:16 PM PDT by Spirit of Liberty
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To: SandRat
They would probably tell you you to get the kids out while the response team traveled there.

Would that include breaking a window to do so? I would, but would I then be charged with a crime?



22 posted on 07/13/2011 4:43:17 PM PDT by DejaJude
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To: SandRat

It depends on how hot it is. If it is really hot, I’ll break a window.


23 posted on 07/13/2011 4:43:46 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: DejaJude

After calling 911 I wouldn’t care. I’d gladly explain that in court.

We won’t even go into the Ditz trying to assault me.


24 posted on 07/13/2011 4:47:46 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Who is this person? Is it your wife? Girlfriend? Sister? Does this person have anything to do with the story?

Is it the deadbeat mom? The good Samaritan?

A CAPTION IS ALWAYS NICE.

25 posted on 07/13/2011 5:00:09 PM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: Scotsman will be Free
Losers always blame others for the consequences of their screwups.

When I did a google of her name, I got a hit on "Family says she is no monster" or something like that. They admit she made a mistake, but no harm done. Can we say Casey Anthony? I think we can.



26 posted on 07/13/2011 5:00:26 PM PDT by DejaJude
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To: DCBryan1

***Try that in Arkansas, and you could spend 1-5 years in the state prison for a felony.***

Especially after some jerk and friend around Bella Vista AR left his kids in a car while they “went hunting arrowheads”. The children died in a most horrible fashion.


27 posted on 07/13/2011 5:15:22 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare! NEW PHOTOS!)
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To: DejaJude

And when they eat their children the family will say the govt left her in the lurch because they didn’t help her.


28 posted on 07/13/2011 5:19:40 PM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: JLS
i'd settle for why she felt the need to assault her...
29 posted on 07/13/2011 5:20:38 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: faucetman

It’s your wazoo aperture.


30 posted on 07/13/2011 5:55:59 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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To: DejaJude
They admit she made a mistake, but no harm done.

Except for beating up a woman who cared more about her kids than she did. But other than that no harm done.

31 posted on 07/13/2011 6:16:23 PM PDT by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)
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To: Spirit of Liberty

“You’re as dumb as she is.”

What I am is an old guy who still remembers that some people struggle and barely get by in this world. Do I think it is ideal or even good to leave a 1 and 4 year old in a car alone in hot weather, of course not. Was the mother right out there when a stranger approached her kids, it seems so.

But I always error on the side of the parent not the state. So I want the facts, while you nanny state big government types want to immediately turn to government like you buds at Dim underground, etc.


32 posted on 07/13/2011 10:23:34 PM PDT by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: JLS

Sorry, ain’t working.

I grew up in the south without air conditioning; I know what heat is. Yeah, I played outside in the summer with temps near 100 but I wasn’t closed up in a car. I was in the shade with a breeze blowing. Drove for years without A/C in the car. It was miserable with windows down and moving-unbearable with the windows up.

I’m not sure where you get that the mother was right out there when a stranger approached her kids. The article states that Elliott approached the mother as she exited the store. You have no way of knowing if Elliott had found the kids 30 seconds before or 10 minutes before. You’re assuming.

I err on the side of the child. Since 1998, an average of 37 children have died in the United States after being left in or becoming trapped in a hot vehicle. I’d rather have them alive than dead. And I changed my mind-you’re DUMBER than she is.


33 posted on 07/14/2011 7:24:49 AM PDT by Spirit of Liberty
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To: Scotsman will be Free

she sounds like a sociopath.....I am reading The Sociopath Nextdoor....it claims one in four is a sociopath....sounds like this mom....fist she has no regard for the safety and health of her children leaving them in a hot car unattended...second she assaulted the woman who pointed that out.....at no point does she feel any guilt or remorse...classic symptoms.


34 posted on 07/14/2011 7:35:33 AM PDT by tioga
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To: tioga

25% sounds way too high, though I believe as a society we are making more all of the time.


35 posted on 07/14/2011 9:23:21 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

Not all turn into killers.....some are extremely successful biz men...others are the office bitch who lies and spreads havoc without doing much work at all.......there are all kinds......the husband who never works and let’s his wife support him......no conscience is the hallmark.


36 posted on 07/14/2011 9:59:43 AM PDT by tioga
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To: Spirit of Liberty

“I err on the side of the child.”

Nope you err on the side of the state taking children from parents. That is to coin a phrase hardly the spirit of liberty.

I certainly know broadly the data on children dying in cars, though I am surprised it is as few as 37 per year on average and I wonder how many of those are cases of a parent forgetting it was their day to take the kid to day care or school bus drivers failing to get all the kids off the bus. In the current case it appears to me the mother had her eye on the situation though while not ideal or even good, was maybe the best she could do that one day.

So I still err on the side of a parent working and trying to take care of their kids and not be a burden on the rest of us. That is the spirit of liberty, not a nannie calling for nannie state intervention whenever someone does not do things the way they would do it.


37 posted on 07/14/2011 7:31:19 PM PDT by JLS (How to turn a recession into a depression: elect a Dem president with a big majorities in Congress)
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To: DemforBush

A Tale of Two Heathers, fwtw.


38 posted on 07/14/2011 7:33:50 PM PDT by bvw
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