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Memo to Hill GOP: How to take the Social Security card out of Obama's hands
Washington Examiner -- Beltway Confidential ^ | 7-13-11 | Mark Tapscott

Posted on 07/13/2011 5:12:27 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

President Obama has more than a few congressional GOPers shaking in their boots with his threat to not pay Social Security checks after August 2 if Republicans don't cave in to his demand that they support tax increases and hiking the national debt limit.

It's a variation of the familiar Democratic tactic that has worked so often in the past. But here's how Republicans can snatch the Social Security weapon right out of Obama's hands: Congress has all of the ultimate weapons in any showdown with the president or the federal judiciary, thanks to its status as the First Branch and the one that controls the federal purse strings.

So when Obama threatens not to pay Social Security checks on time, the proper response of congressional Republicans should be to pass emergency legislation directing the Secretary of the Treasury to pay interest on the national debt, Social Security and Medicare, active-duty members of the military and...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: budget; debtceiling; debtdeal; scialsecurity; threats

1 posted on 07/13/2011 5:12:34 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Most of the DC elites, including the RINO’s are the ones who created this crisis.
Why would either party want to solve it? It’s not about protecting this great country.
It’s about the power.


2 posted on 07/13/2011 5:15:43 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: afraidfortherepublic

JimPethokoukis
JimPethokoukis
15 minutes ago
RT @zerohedge: OBAMA: “THIS MAY BRING MY PRESIDENCY DOWN BUT I WILL NOT YIELD ON THIS” — REPUBLICAN AIDE


4 posted on 07/13/2011 5:19:15 PM PDT by biggredd1
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To: afraidfortherepublic
This is how the GOP defeats Obama.
5 posted on 07/13/2011 5:19:20 PM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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6 posted on 07/13/2011 5:20:01 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Gee... I wonder why Obama didn’t mention a potential problem with paying 44.5 million people their average $282 in food stamps next month. How about Section 8 housing? How about the various “food for kids” programs? How about Welfare checks... or free cellphones... or energy “assistance”...etc.

I wonder why SS was the only thing he mentioned....hmmm.


7 posted on 07/13/2011 5:23:35 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Cementjungle

And why was it timed to be at the same time McConnell did his belly flop?


8 posted on 07/13/2011 5:25:18 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

“H.R.728
Latest Title: To require that the Government give priority to payment of all obligations on the debt held by the public, payment of Social Security benefits, and military funding in the event that the debt limit is reached.
Sponsor: Rep Stutzman, Marlin A. [IN-3] (introduced 2/15/2011) Cosponsors (None)
Related Bills:H.R.568, S.259
Latest Major Action: 2/15/2011 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on Ways and Means.


SUMMARY AS OF:
2/15/2011—Introduced.

Declares that, in the event the debt of the federal government reaches the statutory limit, the authority of the Department of the Treasury to pay with legal tender the principal and interest on debt held by the public, the authority of the Commissioner of Social Security to pay monthly old-age, survivors’, and disability insurance benefits under title II of the Social Security Act, and the authority to make any payments, or expend or obligate any funds, under any law administered by the Secretary of Defense (DOD), the Administrator for Nuclear Security, or any other administering Armed Forces Secretary, shall take priority over all other obligations incurred by the government.”

....

“Cosponsors (None) “


9 posted on 07/13/2011 5:25:24 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: tobyhill

When, oh when will the Republicans fight all of the lies that this admins. and the lying Dems put out everyday!! This is so the way to “stick them with the truth”!! They can NOT count on the media to call out the lies of the libs.


10 posted on 07/13/2011 5:30:09 PM PDT by kaki
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To: afraidfortherepublic

How can obama choose not to pay s/s? We pay the money in not by choice but under the promise that it would be saved for us - and supposedly there is a surplus now.

Is he admitting that the money has been stolen by our politicians???


11 posted on 07/13/2011 5:36:30 PM PDT by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: afraidfortherepublic
This is crunch time. We are getting ready to have a full blown constitutional crisis on our hands and we have a bunch of perfumed dandies in charge.
12 posted on 07/13/2011 5:38:48 PM PDT by oldbrowser (Breitbart for a Pulitzer Prize)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Mr. Tapscott,

It is quite telling when you have to clarify to the Congress how to use the Constitution and government balance of powers to direct us on a conservative path. It tells quite lucidly of the massive contrived political propaganda and sinister manipulations of the Media and the politicians Democrats and Republicans) who bend over for it, FOR YEARS.

The US federal government, in concert with the centrally controlled Media and a feckless population, have constructed the phoniest dependent society on Earth. It could have been all different, if just some courageous leaders had revealed what is going on. I had hopes once for GWB, but, as an establishment patrician, he failed. Now we have the most arrogant, self-consumed, and destructive, President that we have ever had. That by virtue of a ruthless (and savvy) global conspiracy, and a truly stupid electorate.

As Roddenberry of Star Trek declared over and over, there are only two paths in sentient life, that of authoritarian mindless dependence, or that of human dignity where one lives one's own decisions and moral consciousness.

Thank you for the clarification, but tragically there is no way that political careerists are going to put at risk their goodies for the constituency's long term stability. It happened in Rome too.

Johnny Suntrade

13 posted on 07/13/2011 5:42:06 PM PDT by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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To: Aria

I wish there was some way to ask your question to Baraq, Pelosi, and Reid on national tv.

I’d LOVE to hear the response.

I’m tempted to email AARP and ask them too. They seem to be the only ones outside the political elite who always tell us about how solid the “trust fund” is.


14 posted on 07/13/2011 5:42:29 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Most recipients aren't paid by check anyway, and they're trying to phase it out, not trying, mandating by 2013 or so.

SS is automatically deposited in the account of your choice in what appears by staggering Wednesdays, 1st Wed, 2nd Wed, 3rd Web, etc.

Maybe Obama himself doesn't understnd how it works, and unless there's a STOP PAY (there is probably some mechanism to inactive the interlocking programs that control the whole process) button, no way to easily stop auto deposits.

Sounds so much more theatrical when you threaten with colorful checks. Like he should be saying, seniors may have their auto deposited social security suspended starting Aug 3 (first Wed). AND those still receiving payments via checks may not be receiving them.

15 posted on 07/13/2011 5:43:59 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: mrsmith

I think Bloomberg News released a proposed list of what should get funded first in order of priority. Did anyone see that?


16 posted on 07/13/2011 5:50:34 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I believe that Newt Gingrich outlined this idea, or something similar to it, last night on "Hannity".

The problem is finding someone in the GOP who has the tenacity to cut Zero off at the knees. I don't see any takers of the challenge currently on the stage.

As the rule states, "NO GUTS, NO GLORY".

17 posted on 07/13/2011 5:52:03 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: biggredd1

Obammy keeps talking about self destruction. He’s knows himself even while he’s hidden himself from the public.


18 posted on 07/13/2011 5:59:11 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Great!

Now if Boehner was as “courageous” as some are saying, he’d do this tomorrow morning!


19 posted on 07/13/2011 6:02:04 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: nascarnation

Don’t trust AARP.


20 posted on 07/13/2011 6:08:49 PM PDT by donhunt (I am sick and tired of those bastards insulting and lying to me.)
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To: GeronL

No, I didn’t see it. I assume spending on GLBT programs was at the top...

Some funds for the Executive and Judicial branches are protected by the Constitution, and debt payments.


21 posted on 07/13/2011 6:09:59 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: donhunt

LOL

AARP is an operations branch of the Democrat party.


22 posted on 07/13/2011 6:11:15 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Aliska

Payment is the first Wednesday after the 15th of the month for me and my husband. If the Wednesday falls on the 15th for us, the 15th is pay day. I don’t remember if it is determined by the alphabet (our initial), or your birthday. We both have the same initial and our birthdays are the 15th and the 16th.


23 posted on 07/13/2011 6:30:39 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Rush was all over this today.
When will the GOP play hardball ?


24 posted on 07/13/2011 6:34:11 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Wow, that’s different. For me, electronic deposit is on the 3rd of the month. Unless the 3rd falls on a weekend or Holiday. Then it is on the Friday before but still in the same month. Like this month the 3rd was on Sunday, so I was paid on Friday the 1st.


25 posted on 07/13/2011 7:09:42 PM PDT by Petruchio (I Think . . . Therefor I FReep.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Payment is the first Wednesday after the 15th of the month for me and my husband. If the Wednesday falls on the 15th for us, the 15th is pay day. I don’t remember if it is determined by the alphabet (our initial), or your birthday. We both have the same initial and our birthdays are the 15th and the 16th.

Well, that's kind of different. I was told and do receive payment on the 3rd Wednesday of the month. I went through several months, and it works out the same as yours. My initial is G and my birthday is 17th, so I don't know what determines which day. You'd think mine would be sooner since G is the 7th letter of the alphabet, like batch on the 2nd Wed. It doesn't matter once the cycle starts and you get in sync with it.

Bottom line is I'm not receiving my ss on Aug 3 regardless of what happens lol. And neither are a lot of other people, no matter how this negotiating goes. If there is no disruption, I expect to receive mine Wed, Aug 17, my birthday this year.

They're not scaring me, doesn't work any more. I'm thankful for what I do get but I'll just work harder getting my supplemental income higher. There's not much incentive to get your supplemental income too high or they will tax all but 85% of your ss anyway. And that's not what you receive through auto dep but all your supplement ins premiums added to it for the year. To stay under the limit, you shouldn't have more than about $22,500 in supplemental income and not have to pay taxes on it. There's a calculation, it looks too tricky, but if you follow down the lines and do exactly what it says, you can figure it out yourself.

Since you're married, that part of it is probably similar but different thresholds for you plus you have the added option of filing jointly or married filing separately.

26 posted on 07/13/2011 7:20:21 PM PDT by Aliska
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