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'Rapture' Real Aftermath: Beheadings, Shootings, Mass Graves
World Net Daily ^ | July 13, 2011 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 07/13/2011 6:57:42 PM PDT by WXRGina

The executive director of a ministry that works with the persecuted church in the northern reaches of Vietnam says he's outraged that a "prophecy" by an American preacher apparently cost the lives of many tribal Hmong people who believed it.

The prediction by Harold Camping, 89, of Oakland, Calif.-based Family Radio, was that Jesus Christ would return to Earth to "rapture" his followers to heaven on May 21. Camping said mankind had run out of time, and the Creator of the universe would arrive on that Saturday.

The horrific aftermath of the unfulfilled prophecy was reported by James Jacob Prasch, a key leader of Moriel Ministries, which emphasizes the "last days apostasy" discussed in the Bible and ministers to persecuted church members.

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: eschatology; haroldcamping; rapture; vietnam
This is simply HORRIBLE.
1 posted on 07/13/2011 6:57:47 PM PDT by WXRGina
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To: WXRGina

Once again, I have a typo in the title.

Regardless, Harold Camping is going to regret his heresy.


2 posted on 07/13/2011 6:59:25 PM PDT by WXRGina
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To: WXRGina

Very interesting that the stroke primarily affected Camping’s speech.


3 posted on 07/13/2011 7:09:57 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: WXRGina

I am extremely skeptical of this story. WND is not exactly trustworthy.


4 posted on 07/13/2011 7:10:36 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

Got any examples???


5 posted on 07/13/2011 7:15:29 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: DManA

Indeed. If it’s not on CNN, it never happened...


6 posted on 07/13/2011 7:16:13 PM PDT by null and void (Day 904. When your only tools are a Hammer & Sickle, everything looks like a Capitalist...)
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To: DManA

What “proof” do you have that “WND is not exactly trustworthy”? Hmmmm???

This report is from a guy in the field who has no reason to make this stuff up. Is it so hard for you to believe that poor, impoverished Christians around the world are being persecuted in the most violent ways, just as Jesus said we would be?


7 posted on 07/13/2011 7:19:43 PM PDT by WXRGina
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To: WXRGina

The story writes Christians are murdered because of their membership in a church. Readers should be aware that the yellow skin Vietnamese despise the dark skin Montagnards as an inferior race. Montagnards vigorously supported America during the Vietnam war. The communists remember that and see that as reason enough to kill Montagnards. Religion may play a role, but it’s not the only one here.


8 posted on 07/13/2011 7:22:06 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: WXRGina

I don’t know why WND makes up stuff but they do.


9 posted on 07/13/2011 7:22:34 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

Again, I ask—give me an example of anything WND “made up.”


10 posted on 07/13/2011 7:24:29 PM PDT by WXRGina
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Your tagline gives away your off-base thinking.


11 posted on 07/13/2011 7:26:19 PM PDT by WXRGina
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To: WXRGina

The Vietnamese govt. persecutes Christians, but thank goodness smart and patriotic Americans like John McCain opened up “free trade” with Vietnam so we can enjoy cheap imports, just as we did in China (which also persecutes Christians). Those Asian Christians just have to realize that “free trade” is so much more important than their rights and American national security. /s


12 posted on 07/13/2011 7:26:45 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: WXRGina

I did a speedy read of the article and saw nothing that justified the Rapture Aftermath.

Camping is a crackpot hopefully confined to a nursing home, that said, the title is disingenuous.


13 posted on 07/13/2011 7:27:27 PM PDT by WestwardHo (Whom the gods would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: WestwardHo
You did a "speedy read" of the column? Yes, Camping is a lost man, but how do you not see the connection as reported by Prasch?

After listening to a translation of Camping's prediction 7,000 of these people (known in the West as Montagnards) gathered on a mountain praising God their suffering at the hands of the communist regime was about to end because Jesus was returning that day in May to establish a new kingdom.

The police and military police slaughtered many of them at gunpoint – beheading two pastors. Others were arrested. I am told by Hmong pastors that so many were shot dead that they were buried in mass graves bulldozed over in an episode that I read about in Britain but did not understand the magnitude of until I got here.

I guess you can equivocate in any number of ways. The fact remains that Americans are "blissfully" unaware of how bad Christians around the world are abused at the hands of hellish regimes.

14 posted on 07/13/2011 7:34:48 PM PDT by WXRGina
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To: WXRGina

Terrible, but then again it’s being reported by WND; so who knows what the truth of the story actually is.


15 posted on 07/13/2011 7:36:15 PM PDT by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: WXRGina

That’s telling him.


16 posted on 07/13/2011 7:37:27 PM PDT by Misterioso (Atlas Shrugged isn't a prophecy--it's an autopsy.)
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To: DManA

prove what fiction they write or continue to look the fool


17 posted on 07/13/2011 7:37:37 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Ron Paul is to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible.)
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To: WXRGina; DManA

>>> What “proof” do you have that “WND is not exactly trustworthy”? Hmmmm???

Personally I am still waiting for the Al Qaeda nukes to go off like WND promised. TOTALLY trustworthy.

Al-Qaida nukes already in U.S.
Terrorists, bombs smuggled across
Mexico border by MS-13 gangsters

Read more: Al-Qaida nukes already in U.S.
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=31232#ixzz1S2nQzK3O

“...thousands of al-Qaida sleeper agents have now been forward deployed into the U.S. to carry out their individual roles in the coming “American Hiroshima” plan.

Bin Laden’s goal, according to the book, is to kill at least 4 million Americans, 2 million of whom must be children.

The future plan, according to captured al-Qaida agents and documents, suggests the attacks will take place simultaneously in major cities throughout the country – including New York, Boston, Washington, Las Vegas, Miami, Chicago and Los Angeles.”


18 posted on 07/13/2011 8:06:03 PM PDT by tlb
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To: WXRGina

James Jacob Prasch, a key leader of Moriel Ministries

Go the Moriel Ministries website. Website states that James Prasch has health problems and will not be doing any traveling in 2011.
There is no mention of the Hmong massacre on their Latest News, Articles, and Information page.

No, we are not blissfully unaware that there is more Christian persecution going on in the world than in any time in history.
The story sounds like something that took place during the Viet Nam war. The red flags went up.


19 posted on 07/13/2011 8:12:25 PM PDT by WestwardHo (Whom the gods would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: tlb; WestwardHo

Okay, then. I guess we’ll just hide and wait for the enemy within to attack America.

Great plan, guys!


20 posted on 07/13/2011 8:16:39 PM PDT by WXRGina
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To: tlb

I’d feel a lot more confident about this if it shows up at Voice of the Martyrs. (www.persecution.com)


21 posted on 07/13/2011 8:18:42 PM PDT by Liberty1970 (For by grace are you saved through faith.)
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To: WXRGina

It is evil to lay the deaths of 7000 people on Harold Camping, especially when the story isn’t true.


22 posted on 07/13/2011 8:27:25 PM PDT by WestwardHo (Whom the gods would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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23 posted on 07/13/2011 8:28:18 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: WestwardHo

How do you know the story “isn’t true”?


24 posted on 07/13/2011 8:31:17 PM PDT by WXRGina
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

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25 posted on 07/13/2011 8:49:10 PM PDT by WXRGina
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To: WXRGina

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26 posted on 07/13/2011 8:49:57 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: WXRGina

How do you know the story “isn’t true”?

Go the Moriel Ministries website. Website states that James Prasch has health problems and will not be doing any traveling in 2011.
There is no mention of the Hmong massacre on their Latest News, Articles, and Information page

The accusation against Harold Camping is pretty serious.
The story is pretty sensational.
James Prasch can be the only person on earth that knows about it.
Many of the Hmong have relatives in the US. They would have heard something by now.
There’s enough evil in the world that we know for a fact without making stuff up.
Stay grounded in reality.


27 posted on 07/13/2011 9:00:54 PM PDT by WestwardHo (Whom the gods would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: tlb; hellbender; All

After 9/11 my son who is now in Special Forces attended a military conference in which Dirty Nukes was put forward as the most serious danger we might face. I don’t remember how long after 9/11 this was, but I see the article linked here was written in 2005. It is not recent. The Montaniards were our allies during the Vietnam war and certainly might be targeted by the communist regime.


28 posted on 07/13/2011 10:40:00 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: WXRGina

have you ever been to Vietnam and talked with the Vietnamese about their beliefs? I doubt it. And, show me where my tagline is not a historical truth. Did America inherit the Earth by being whipish? My recollection is they beat the snot out of the others up until your idol Obama the meek took charge.


29 posted on 07/14/2011 12:13:21 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: WXRGina

have you ever been to Vietnam and talked with the Vietnamese about their beliefs? I doubt it. And, show me where my tagline is not a historical truth. Did America inherit the Earth by being whipish? My recollection is they beat the snot out of the others up until your idol Obama the meek took charge.


30 posted on 07/14/2011 12:13:35 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Montagnards ARE a different race from the Vietnamese. The Montagnards, like the Champa or the Khmer in Cambodia are a Mon-Khmer people who are related to the Polynesian-Malay peoples. The Vietnamese were pushed down from Southern China by the Han Chinese in the 7th - 10th centuries and pushed out or assimilated the Montagnards.


31 posted on 07/14/2011 3:32:39 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego slynie.)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

You are mentally deranged to baselessly accuse me of having any fondness whatsoever for the communist Barry Soetoro.

Your tagline claims that Jesus is lying when he says the opposite. You clearly do not understand the meaning of Jesus’ words.


32 posted on 07/14/2011 6:15:39 AM PDT by WXRGina
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

Um, your tag line has nothing to do with history. The phrase “ shall not” is future tense. It should read “ have not” to be accurate. God says that the meek “ SHALL” inherit the earth and I’m inclined to go with that.


33 posted on 07/14/2011 7:17:40 AM PDT by thatjoeguy (Wind is just air, but pushier.)
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