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Mother arrested for 'leaving her children in hot car and attacking woman trying to rescue them'
Daily Mail ^ | 7/13/11 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 07/14/2011 9:52:10 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

A mother-of-two has been arrested after allegedly leaving her children in a baking hot car and then attacking a woman who tried to help them.

Heather Elliot told police she saw two boys, aged four and one, left unattended inside a car with the windows shut in the car park of a Kroger store in West Southport Road, Indianapolis.

But when she approached the boys' mother Heather Query, she claimed the 21-year-old began shouting at her and then punched her in the face.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: childabuse; elliot; hotcar; indianapolis
What is the deal with mothers killing their children?


1 posted on 07/14/2011 9:52:14 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
Full title (wouldn't fit):

"Mother-of-two arrested for 'leaving her children in baking hot car and attacking woman trying to rescue them'"

2 posted on 07/14/2011 9:53:41 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
"What is the deal with mothers killing their children?"

What? Have you never heard of abortion??

3 posted on 07/14/2011 9:54:38 AM PDT by jackibutterfly (The American Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

When Heathers collide, news at 11:00!


4 posted on 07/14/2011 9:54:44 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Maybe she DIDN”T try to kill her kids. Why her response then????


5 posted on 07/14/2011 9:55:24 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
Crazy eyes. Warning. Approach with caution, better yet, run.

Just a professional assesment from a guy that knows these things.

/johnny

6 posted on 07/14/2011 9:55:39 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: jackibutterfly

>>What? Have you never heard of abortion?? <<

No. Tell us all about it.

/s


7 posted on 07/14/2011 9:57:15 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
A lot of details missing from this story.

Had the mother just left the vehicle?
Was she on her way in to the store or on her way out?
Was the mother making a U-turn to retrieve the kids after realizing her mistake?
Were these kids screaming because of the heat or were they being brats and is it their habit to scream whenever they don't get their way?

All valid questions I think.
With all these types of stories in the news of late, it is just as likely that the kids were in no danger and Heather Elliot was being a busy-body who perceived herself the hero of the moment. As I said...many details missing here.

8 posted on 07/14/2011 10:01:19 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (If you think it's time to bury your weapons.....it's time to dig them up.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Spot on Johnny.


9 posted on 07/14/2011 10:01:31 AM PDT by Eddie01
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

If they were alone in the car, and unattended... how did the mother see the woman “approaching” and if I thought someone was trying to steal my kids... I’d attack them too!


10 posted on 07/14/2011 10:04:14 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
"Maybe she DIDN”T try to kill her kids. Why her response then????"

Cuz someone was trying to tell HER what to do, and we can't have that now, can we. I remember a couple of years ago, I was shopping at Target, and came across a child, probably no more than 6 or 7, all alone in a aisle. I asked her where her mother was, and she said, "Over there". Well, her mother was 2 aisles over, her view completely blocked from her child. I went over to her and calmly mentioned that it might not be a good idea to let her child be so far away from her. I just barely finished speaking, and she started screaming at me to mind my own business, SHE knew what she was doing, SHE had it under control, etc. I just backed away (didn't want to turn my back on her), and left. What can ya do? I probably should have taken the child by the hand and led her away for a few minutes to see what the mother would do when she couldn't find her child. But, I know how that would go.

11 posted on 07/14/2011 10:04:46 AM PDT by jackibutterfly (The American Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Fair questions.


12 posted on 07/14/2011 10:05:42 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Had a rather similar thing happen recently outside of a grocery store. We came upon several people who were trying to open a locked car with an elderly lady inside. The woman was not responding, but appeared to be in some distress. It was hot out, and the car was locked up but the sunroof was partially open.
A youngish couple and a couple of the grocery store workers were trying to figure out how to get the car open, as the old woman did seem to be very hot and could not communicate (it was difficult to tell if she was unresponsive because she was just always like that or if she was in distress.)
The grocery store made an announcement and about the time someone was able to get the car open (via the sunroof) a young woman came out, was very angry at all of us, said it was her Grandmother (I think she was a caregiver, she just didn’t look like the woman’s granddaughter and we live in an area where it’s very common for people to hire caregivers for the elderly but I have no proof of that) and drove quickly away. In hindsight I wish I had gotten a license number and reported it. That old woman was clearly not able to get out of the car on her own if she WAS in distress so she should never have been left alone in a locked car like that.
On the other hand, it was heartening to see people, both strangers and store employees so caring about a stranger.


13 posted on 07/14/2011 10:07:20 AM PDT by brytlea (Someone the other day said I'm not a nice person. How did they know?)
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To: jackibutterfly
But, I know how that would go.

Oh yeah. Better off just watching the kind via peripheral vision from a safe distance. Just to ensure the kid's ok until Grizzly Mom decides to forage back towards her cub.

14 posted on 07/14/2011 10:09:48 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (If you think it's time to bury your weapons.....it's time to dig them up.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I agree it is not clear at all if she had already been in the store, or why they say the kids were “unattended”, yet the 2 Heathers confronted each other. Clearly 88 degrees is too hot to leave them for any period of time - who knows if the mom would be delayed in the store, even if she only thought it would be a minute. But then regardless of the weather, these kids are too young to be left alone locked up anyway! She’s an idiot.


15 posted on 07/14/2011 10:10:26 AM PDT by GnuHere
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Another question would be the ages of the two children. The mom was 21.

Let’s say she had the first kid at 16 (to be generous). That would make the oldest kid 6, and the youngest kid anywhere from a few months to 5 years old.

This idiot is lucky her kids were NOT harmed, and she became the next mother-who-killed-her-kids-in-a-hot-car.

People amaze me quite often.


16 posted on 07/14/2011 10:12:40 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Kids were 1 and 4.


17 posted on 07/14/2011 10:15:17 AM PDT by brytlea (Someone the other day said I'm not a nice person. How did they know?)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

She figured if Casey Anthony got away with murder, she could too.


18 posted on 07/14/2011 10:18:03 AM PDT by crosshairs (Peace through superior firepower.)
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To: brytlea

There is too much of this crap going on for me to believe it’s all unintentional.


19 posted on 07/14/2011 10:18:23 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

If you come upon children left in a car is it wise to just go on your merry way “tra,la, la, las, la, la”?


20 posted on 07/14/2011 10:21:03 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Yeah, you’re right. The best solution, I guess. I’ll remember that. Thanks.


21 posted on 07/14/2011 10:21:44 AM PDT by jackibutterfly (The American Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people.)
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22 posted on 07/14/2011 10:21:52 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears
Regardless of the situation, unless it appears the children are unconscious or need immediate medical attention, the wise thing to do would have been to notify store management or the Police. In this day an age, trying to be a vigilante in a situation like this could very well get you shot, run over or beaten to a bloody pulp. You never know who you are dealing with, what if instead of a “mother” it had been a gang banger father and couple of his friends, this women would have been lucky to get out of the encounter alive.
23 posted on 07/14/2011 10:21:57 AM PDT by apillar
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Too much missing from the story.
The mom was right there to see the approach
of the ‘rescuer’; my first thought was
that Mom might have been returning the shopping wagon
to the corral.
I looking forward to the rest of the story.


24 posted on 07/14/2011 10:23:05 AM PDT by CaptainPhilFan
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To: jackibutterfly

The mother looks like a smug little dumbass who won’t listen to anyone which is likely why she was having babies while still a child.


25 posted on 07/14/2011 10:23:41 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Did she have an Obama bumper sticker on the car?


26 posted on 07/14/2011 10:23:41 AM PDT by DonkeyBonker
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To: jackibutterfly

The mother looks like a smug little dumbass who won’t listen to anyone which is likely why she was having babies while still a child.


27 posted on 07/14/2011 10:24:05 AM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: jackibutterfly

My wife and I were walking up a hill, beside us a family was out doing things in the front yard, their three year old was wandering out into the street and I could hear a big truck putting on the brakes as it went down the hill.

I said as casually as I could “Your toddler is toddling out into the street.”

The mother, rather than running after her child, started screaming at ME “I AM NOT A BAD MOTHER!!!!!”

I replied “irrespective of your skill as a mother, your child IS wandering out into the street.”

She got her child. I got a dirty look.


28 posted on 07/14/2011 10:24:43 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: apillar

Probably true, but in the case of a child in a car, I would feel compelled to do something. Since I wouldn’t know how to break into a locked car or the strength or weapon to break a window, I think I would just call 911 and hope it wasn’t too late.


29 posted on 07/14/2011 10:28:20 AM PDT by altura ( Palin/Ryan---or Palin/Perry (for the best looking ticket ever))
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Incidentally, the best clue I’ve ever read for parents who drop kids off at a caretaker on their way to work is to leave their purse or briefcase on the BACK seat so that when they retrieve it, they’ll find the child.


30 posted on 07/14/2011 10:34:59 AM PDT by kitkat ( I sure HOPE that it's time for a CHANGE from Obama.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Here’s what you do (this gained recently from personal experience): You call 911, you say I want to report a case of reckless endangerment, there are children (or pets) locked in a car in the parking lot of _________, the vehicle is a ___________, it’s tag number is______________. Then just stand back and watch the fun. It will be what I like to call a “significant emotional event” in the life of the idiot(s) who did it. And it is very doubtful that they will EVER do it again.


31 posted on 07/14/2011 10:34:59 AM PDT by pepperdog (Why are Democrats Afraid of a Voter ID Law?)
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To: kitkat
leave their purse or briefcase on the BACK seat

Or their weed.

32 posted on 07/14/2011 10:45:18 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Just once I'd like someone to call me 'Sir' without adding 'You're making a scene.' - Homer Simpson)
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To: pepperdog
Here’s what you do (this gained recently from personal experience): You call 911, you say I want to report a case of reckless endangerment, there are children (or pets) locked in a car in the parking lot of _________, the vehicle is a ___________, it’s tag number is______________. Then just stand back and watch the fun. It will be what I like to call a “significant emotional event” in the life of the idiot(s) who did it. And it is very doubtful that they will EVER do it again.

You left out an important part: Video the mayhem and publish it on YouTube.

33 posted on 07/14/2011 10:47:12 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Just once I'd like someone to call me 'Sir' without adding 'You're making a scene.' - Homer Simpson)
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To: allmendream

It seems that people are more concerned about being embarrassed or *dissed* than they are about almost anything else. I don’t know if this is new, or has always been. But that seems to be the first reaction of most people these days.


34 posted on 07/14/2011 10:52:58 AM PDT by brytlea (Someone the other day said I'm not a nice person. How did they know?)
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To: brytlea

It is nothing new, other than that the social impulses that would previously curtail such behavior have been abolished.

In the “self esteem” era - how DARE you point out that their child is wandering out into the street - why that is an attack upon their very being - their most precious asset - no, not the child, their own feeling of self worth.

“I am NOT a bad mother!” she screeched at me while her toddler wandered out into the street.


35 posted on 07/14/2011 10:57:26 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears

Wife and I watched some lady leave her two small kids in car seats while she went in to a cafe to join a guy for breakfast. It was hot outside.

We called 911 and watched the car to be sure the kids were OK. The cops got there (30 minutes) about the same time the lady came out of the cafe. That lady launched on everybody, us, the cops and any by-standers that had gathered to watch. The guy she was with just dissappeared.

Result: She went away in handcuffs. Kids went off with CPS. Car got towed.


36 posted on 07/14/2011 11:06:14 AM PDT by super7man
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To: arrogantsob
If you come upon children left in a car is it wise to just go on your merry way “tra,la, la, las, la, la”?

No, of course not. But a certain amount of observation would be in order. Whether this was done or not is not clear from the article.

37 posted on 07/14/2011 11:10:48 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (If you think it's time to bury your weapons.....it's time to dig them up.)
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To: pepperdog

Love it.


38 posted on 07/14/2011 11:14:30 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (If you think it's time to bury your weapons.....it's time to dig them up.)
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To: allmendream
their most precious asset - no, not the child, their own feeling of self worth.

Yes, exactly.

39 posted on 07/14/2011 11:21:40 AM PDT by brytlea (Someone the other day said I'm not a nice person. How did they know?)
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To: jackibutterfly

Apparently the mother you are talking about never heard of Adam Walsh.


40 posted on 07/14/2011 11:34:21 AM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: allmendream

I said as casually as I could “Your toddler is toddling out into the street.”

The mother, rather than running after her child, started screaming at ME “I AM NOT A BAD MOTHER!!!!!”

I replied “irrespective of your skill as a mother, your child IS wandering out into the street.”

I’d have called to the child,”Get on the sidewalk quick”
This would have alerted both the child and it’s parents to the impending danger. Years ago, we would have looked out for our neighbor’s children


41 posted on 07/14/2011 11:54:36 AM PDT by matchgirl ("He made it worse")
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To: matchgirl

If the mother wasn’t right there I might have, but not sure the child was understanding and/or responding to English at that point.

Toddler still had a way to toddle before it was actually OUT in the street, it was just lowering down over the curb when I told the mother.

But as I said, mother was more interested in clearing up any misconception I might have about her skills as a parent than in pulling the child out of the street.

Typical.

If the child were OUT in the street, or likely to be so imminently - I would have pulled the kid out of the street. As it was the mother was going to have PLENTY of time to avert danger - if that was her intent - apparently a secondary consideration to a verbal defense of her stunning parenting skills.


42 posted on 07/14/2011 12:37:02 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: CaptainPhilFan

YES!!!! I know that has happened to me before! I forgot all about that when you said that. I was returning the cart and someone was looking at my 2 year old squealing because she (like most 2 year olds) hated her car seat.

I still say if they were unattended, how did the mother see the approaching rescuer.


43 posted on 07/14/2011 1:30:44 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to the chariot wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: jackibutterfly

In hindsight it would have been fitting if you had told the kid that her mother wanted her to play hide-and-seek and she should go hide in the toy department, then go talk to store security about the mother.


44 posted on 07/14/2011 1:39:05 PM PDT by Two Kids' Dad ((((( )))))
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To: pepperdog

Assuming, of course, that the owners of the vehicle don’t get back in at least the forty minutes to two hours the police will take to get there.


45 posted on 07/14/2011 1:58:34 PM PDT by magslinger (Zombies make up much of the Democrat's base.)
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To: magslinger

Yes, that is a concern...but the very large firetruck arrived very quickly and found the owners. I guess you have to do whatever is necessary to save the kids or pups if someone doesn’t show up soon.


46 posted on 07/14/2011 2:32:33 PM PDT by pepperdog (Why are Democrats Afraid of a Voter ID Law?)
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To: pepperdog
Quite right. I had forgotten that the FD is likely to respond to such a call and would likely respond quickly and with the right tool for the job.

My daughter got to use one on a wrecked beater at a extrication exercise when she was taking her EMT class.

47 posted on 07/14/2011 3:06:22 PM PDT by magslinger (Zombies make up much of the Democrat's base.)
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