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McConnell: Not a single Republican will vote to raise debt limit (Then don't pass anything)
cbs ^ | 7/14/2011 | Stephanie Condon

Posted on 07/15/2011 3:53:56 AM PDT by tobyhill

President Obama is still trying to hash out a deficit reduction deal as part of a Congressional vote to raise the debt ceiling, but Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell suggested today that the president ultimately won't get any Republicans to work with him.

"I bet there won't be a single Republican vote to raise the debt ceiling at the end of the day," McConnell said in an interview with conservative talk radio host Laura Ingraham. The remark was in response to Ingraham's reference to a new Gallup poll showing that the plurality of Americans oppose raising the debt ceiling.

Mr. Obama and his economic team have warned of "economic catastrophe" should Congress fail to raise the debt ceiling by Aug. 2. Republicans, calling it irresponsible to raise the debt limit without fiscal reform, have insisted on massive spending cuts in exchange for their votes.

McConnell told Ingraham that there's no question the debt ceiling will be raised somehow. "If anybody seriously doubts that the U.S. is going to renig on its credit for the first time in history -- that's just not going to happen," he said.

Furthermore, the Senate leader said he's still interested in reaching a deal with the president "that cuts spending and makes a difference for the country."

However, McConnell said, Mr. Obama's interest in including revenue increases in the deal has left Republicans with two bad choices: "either sign onto a bad deal that raises taxes or go into default and allow us to have co-ownership of a bad economy."

McConnell acknowledged that the "back-up" plan he unveiled yesterday comes down largely to a political move. The plan would allow Mr. Obama to raise the debt limit without any Republican support.

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1 posted on 07/15/2011 3:53:59 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

“going to renig on its credit”

I wonder whether the author and her editor are really this stupid?


2 posted on 07/15/2011 4:04:42 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: tobyhill
Ok, what? Yesterday he wanted to abdicate responsibility and give Obama a blank check. Today he says not a single Republican will vote to raise the debt ceiling. But the debt ceiling will be raised.

I think he's losing his mind. How about he goes somewhere else to have his nervous breakdown and let someone with a spine take over?

3 posted on 07/15/2011 4:06:03 AM PDT by athelass (Proud Mom of a Sailor & 2 Marines! Not raising the debt ceiling is an automatic spending cut.)
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To: gusopol3
The House should pass a bill with REAL cuts equal to the amount of increase and tell the Senate and Obama to take it or leave it.
The GOP won't have to own it if Obama and the Rats reject it.
4 posted on 07/15/2011 4:10:22 AM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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To: gusopol3

They’ve got such niggardly public school educations, they barely speak English.


5 posted on 07/15/2011 4:10:55 AM PDT by RetroSexual
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To: tobyhill

This whole thing sucks. If a deal isn’t made, Republicans will get blamed. I know that the Democrats don’t want to do anything but raise taxes and spend,spend, spend.

Unfortunately, the vast majority of the American people will probably side with whomever the media decides to blame.....and that will be the GOP.

We can’t afford another Obama term. Hell, I’m not convinced this poor nation will make it through the first four.

I sure wish we had an honest media this country.


6 posted on 07/15/2011 4:12:35 AM PDT by Carbonsteel
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To: athelass
He's trying to bamboozle us into thinking that giving Obama all the power (by a vote) will negate his responsibility of a debt ceiling vote.
7 posted on 07/15/2011 4:14:13 AM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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To: tobyhill

What a transparently sleazy, corrupt form of politics: vote for a plan that means you don’t have to vote for the ceiling increase—because Obama can do it without Congressional approval.

(He only needs 1/3 of Congress, all Dems to enable him and he could simply veto the defense cuts that he himself proposes.)


8 posted on 07/15/2011 4:14:38 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: gusopol3

Maybe Wiktionary is the CBS spell checker of choice.

UGH!


9 posted on 07/15/2011 4:16:00 AM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: Carbonsteel
If the GOP will get blamed anyway then they have more incentive to just do what's right.

At every press conference they need to remind the MSM how the Rats and Obama shoved Obamacare down American’s throats without negotiations.

10 posted on 07/15/2011 4:17:29 AM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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To: tobyhill
mcconnell thinks we are stupid.

If the congress critters give the one the right to raise the debt limit without their voting for it and then expect us to believe that because they vote against the raise {but it still happens} that we won't blame them.

mcconnell has been in DC too long.

11 posted on 07/15/2011 4:18:14 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages.)
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To: 9YearLurker
It is sleazy. The House needs to vote on a bill with equal cuts to increase and force the Senate Rats and Obama to make their own decision.
12 posted on 07/15/2011 4:20:27 AM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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To: USS Alaska
If the congress critters give the one the right to raise the debt limit without their voting for it and then expect us to believe that because they vote against the raise {but it still happens} that we won't blame them. mcconnell has been in DC too long.

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They will figure out how to hoodwink Americans, like they did on the 'continuing resolution.' Promise one thing, deliver a another.

Just wait for weeks of sustained propaganda and lies by Obama and his piss-stream media wankers. The GOP wants to starve the poor people and use them for fertilizer! And, we've got to punish those private-jet owners!

We shall see....

To most normal Americans say cutting gov't spending by roughly 25% is the only 'real' thing to do.

obama-peas2

Barack Jackwagon's Campaign Agenda: More taxes, more debt, more unemployment and then default.

13 posted on 07/15/2011 4:27:22 AM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: athelass

How about he is negotiating. This is a classic way to negotiate especially when you have the upper hand. One day you will appear to give in to your opponent. The next day you will say that you never agreed to what you said the day before.

If you pay careful attention, Obama has been doing the same. You will read that he is open to entitlement cuts. Then in a subsequent story you will read that he will not consider entitlement cuts.

Both sides are trying to psych each other out. That is what is going on. You are falling for it hook, line and sinker.

What Obama does not know is how far MCConnell is willing to push. If he psych him out properly Obama will cave.

That is the dynamic here.


14 posted on 07/15/2011 4:27:33 AM PDT by GilGil
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To: tobyhill

Hey Boehner....PASS A TOUGH BILL!!!!! Make Obama VETO it!!


15 posted on 07/15/2011 4:28:39 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: tobyhill
If you repubic scum leadership drones raise the debt ceiling in any way at all... you sink your party for good. I despise you people almost as much as I despise the rats... and that is some fierce dislike... let me tell you!

1) They will raise the debt ceiling... whether it is through some political trickery or slight of hand or through outright capitulation.

2) The media will paint obama as a centrist and great leader.

3) obama will surge back up in the polls. (He already has... check rasmussen).

4) obama will win 4 more years of destruction and communist expansion.

Get ready for a third party... it is a slim chance but it may be our ONLY chance... if the republicrats perform the Final Sellout.

LLS

16 posted on 07/15/2011 4:30:30 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"! I choose LIBERTY and PALIN!)
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To: tobyhill

We have to get beyond the “blame game”. We have to sit back and look at the what the results do to help or harm our economy. Once that is visualized, then people will understand the value of of the politics played out.


17 posted on 07/15/2011 4:32:17 AM PDT by TennTuxedo
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To: GilGil

You will see the truth soon... but it will be too late. These people do not deserve the faith that you put into them... did you like the last continuing resolution? You are about to receive the Nuclear version.

LLS


18 posted on 07/15/2011 4:34:32 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"! I choose LIBERTY and PALIN!)
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To: tobyhill

Yep. They’ve got a strong majority in the House, and still they act like the beat-down minority party they were a few decades ago. Instead of negotiating with Biden and then crying for Obama to enter the discussions (how’s that working out for them?) they should have simply passed their own bill and let it move on to the Democrats in Senate and Obama.

All that work we all did to get the undeserving GOP Party back into the House majority and they blow it—over and over again.

(Remember this spring when they tried to make us believe that $300M in cuts was $100B in cuts—when $100B in cuts would have been a drop in the bucket of a $1.5T deficit?)


19 posted on 07/15/2011 4:37:11 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: gusopol3
"I wonder whether the author and her editor are really this stupid?"

Chances are very high.

20 posted on 07/15/2011 4:43:18 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (I'm sticking with Herman.)
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To: gusopol3
-- I wonder whether the author and her editor are really this stupid? --

Yes, they are that stupid.

Assume, for sake of argument, that the average intelligence of the public drops to that of a dog. At that point, the average IQ would still be "100."

21 posted on 07/15/2011 4:47:16 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: greatvikingone
renig (alt spelling: renege) has nothing to do with "negro" or "niggardly".
1540–50; earlier renegue < Medieval Latin renegāre, equivalent to re- re- + negāre to deny
22 posted on 07/15/2011 4:52:54 AM PDT by MrsEmmaPeel (a government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: LibLieSlayer

You give up too fast. I am amazed how people like you simply say that all is lost and that is the end of it. FR is 99% people who know we have lost. FR has very few people who know how to win.


23 posted on 07/15/2011 5:00:13 AM PDT by GilGil
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To: tobyhill

If you vote to give Hussein unchecked power to raise the debt limit, then you ARE voting to increase the debt limit....and, if the current plan remains, you’re getting nothing but an empty promise of “later cuts” in return.

That is stupid.


24 posted on 07/15/2011 5:02:30 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: athelass

I don’t believe anything anymore, these people are driving my BP up, the only thing that gives me glee is Obozo acting like a 2 year old.


25 posted on 07/15/2011 5:07:34 AM PDT by boomop1
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To: GilGil
FReepers know how to win, it's the GOP “Leaders” that don't know how to win.
26 posted on 07/15/2011 5:17:16 AM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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To: tobyhill

So in his mind he just said “Hey, let’s let Obama raise it without any votes needed. Voila!” This is how senators solve problems.


27 posted on 07/15/2011 5:31:54 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell suggested today that the president ultimately won't get any Republicans to work with him.
This would be world-class rope-a-dope, but Zero has all the subtlety of the Charge of the Light Brigade, coupled with the leadership qualities that resulted in the Battle of the Somme.


28 posted on 07/15/2011 5:33:00 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: tobyhill

Mitch if you and the cronies in the stupid/evil party give the Kenyan commie the power to raise the debt ceiling then the GOP has done just what you said they wouldn’t.


29 posted on 07/15/2011 5:34:32 AM PDT by erod (Unlike the President I am a true Chicagoan.)
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To: tobyhill; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ..
McConnell on Ingraham Show:

Quote 1: “ I bet there won't be a single Republican vote to raise the debt ceiling at the end of the day,” McConnell said in an interview with conservative talk radio host Laura Ingraham. The remark was in response to Ingraham’s reference to a new Gallup poll showing that the plurality of Americans oppose raising the debt ceiling.

Quote 2 “ McConnell told Ingraham that there's no question the debt ceiling will be raised somehow. “If anybody seriously doubts that the U.S. is going to renig on its credit for the first time in history — that's just not going to happen,” he said.

This interview is a couple of days old but the above shows a big problem with Republicans better than I can explain it, NO Republican will vote for it BUT it will get raised somehow?? This doesnt look good.

30 posted on 07/15/2011 5:36:36 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: tobyhill

Personally, I believe the GOP needs to tell Obama to put his plan in writing as after his budget was voted down 97-0 Obama has done zip except to make a speech. The CBO was asked what Obama meant and to score it. The head of the CBO stated we can’t/don’t score /put dollar figures to/on speeches. So, we know obama has done zip again. That is old news. I have been highly pissed with Mitch ever since he came up with this idea. Senator Corker was dead on when he stated the Senate would not make the tough choices. It is time that we vote out these spineless senators along with zero.


31 posted on 07/15/2011 5:48:43 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: GilGil
How about he is negotiating. This is a classic way to negotiate especially when you have the upper hand. One day you will appear to give in to your opponent. The next day you will say that you never agreed to what you said the day before.

What you are essentially saying is that McConnell is the same kind of lying, conniving, manipulative poseur as the Abomunist of Desolation. Not a very reassuring thought. If what you say is true, any 'victory' won will be pyrrhic, with devastating costs to us.

"Everything about socialism is sham and affectation." - Frédéric Bastiat

Cordially,

32 posted on 07/15/2011 5:50:09 AM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: Diamond

What does not kill you, makes you stronger. I just see it as a testament to those who identify themselves with money and wealth. We are not made to be rich but good stewards to the gifts God gives us.


33 posted on 07/15/2011 6:07:32 AM PDT by Baseballguy (If we knew what we know now in Oct would we do anything different?)
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To: GilGil

Oh we know how to win allright.

We just don’t know how we can elect a Congress that has the balls to do it.

As for McConnell he is saying not one Republican will vote to raiuse the debt limit ,but we will vote to give Obama a blank check to do it himself.

Yeah: THAT’s gonna work well.

I think he has lost what little mind he has left.


34 posted on 07/15/2011 6:12:30 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: tobyhill

I’m totally with you on this one. The GOP needs to come up with their deal and put it out there. They need to stand behind it and let the chips fall where they may.


35 posted on 07/15/2011 6:17:09 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: tobyhill
I believe my country's future depends on NOT raising the debt ceiling during the remainder of Obama’s term.

If the ceiling is not increased, the budget is immediately balanced, & Obama will be forced to ration revenues to cover debt servicing, entitlements, defense, & everything else.

If he fails to service the debt, the US is in default. If he fails to send out entitlement checks, seniors, the poor, & the Left will revolt. If he fails to pay the military, the military might revolt. Certainly, many Americans would be outraged if any of this happened.

If you look at the numbers, we have sufficient revenues to cover debt servicing, Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, & defense, but not much else.

So, Obama can continue to fund these items, but that leaves him with MASSIVE CUTS in bureaucratic gov’t such as EPA, Education, Obamacare, & many other functions that are totally unnecessary or are better performed at the state/local level. Thousands of bureaucrats would be laid off or fired. Obama will have to chose whether to fund the Justice dept. or ACORN & the like. The glaring waste of money will become immediately apparent & ended just as quickly.

There is no question that this will be chaotic for Federal gov’t & citizens. Hard choices will have to be made now, not 10 years from now(never). The markets may INITIALLY react negatively, but I believe will go positive when investors realize the bureaucracy & waste are severely curtailed.

But, we are already in the Obama Chaos & it gets worse by the day. Soon, there will no reversing the damage. When we REALLY default at some future date, & it is sure to come, we will be hard pressed to ever fully recover. Four more years of Obama is sure to bring us to unavoidable default & world chaos.

There are 2 HARD truths here that trump everything else:

1. Obama is not going to preside over a contrived default & the resulting world economic chaos if he has the money to service the debt. This would seal his fate as the worst president in history, & enrage the rest of the world. Obama would be the biggest welsher in the world. He loves himself way too much to do that.

2. If the debt ceiling is raised, the money will be used to reelect Obama & maintain the incredibly failed leadership in Congress. You can hem & haw about associated spending cuts & a BBA, but the money will go to maintain the status quo, which is the last thing we need. (Note that nobody is talking about what the extra trillion or 2 will be used for beyond servicing the debt.)

36 posted on 07/15/2011 6:17:21 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: Carbonsteel

“This whole thing sucks. If a deal isn’t made, Republicans will get blamed. I know that the Democrats don’t want to do anything but raise taxes and spend,spend, spend.”

I watched Boehner yesterday on Gretta while putzing around the shop, and it was clear that you are spot on. Obama will not put any thing on paper, and he keeps changing his toon.

Obama knows he helped destroy this already fragile economy (sorry, but both parties have been spending like drunken sailors for 12+ years), and he knows that it will affect him in 2012, so he is trying to pin this on the R’s destroying the economy. Negotiate? He won’t even put anything on the table. They don’t want a deal. He wants to campaign on how we were on the “road to recovery” and then the R’s came in and destroyed the markets. Will it work? Not with us here, but who knows about swing voters with the media on his side.

The R’s should go home, pass a budged, that specifically calls for funding the basics, like interest payments, SS, medicare, the military, call it temporary, and defund everything else until the president puts a plan in writing that they can debate on.

This is why politicians have no business in politics. They negotiate out of fear of their local constituents, instead of negotiating for the good of the country. Plus, most politicians have no business background and have never negotiated anything harder than trying to get a few more bucks out of a campaign donor.


37 posted on 07/15/2011 6:24:36 AM PDT by esoxmagnum (The rats have been trained to pull the D voting lever to get their little food pellet)
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To: Mister Da

By Jove I believe you’ve got it!!


38 posted on 07/15/2011 6:38:07 AM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver
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To: sickoflibs; tobyhill; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; indylindy; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; ...

What have I been posting for 2 years?

Get rid of Boner & McConnell, or NOTHING WILL CHANGE!!

They will cave....I GUARANTEE you that they will cave. You can’t negotiate with a Bill Ayers/Cloward-Piven protege!


39 posted on 07/15/2011 6:40:13 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: GilGil
I am not giving up FRiend... I am making contingency plans... to deny who and what these republican leaders are is to be a fool. All that I am saying is that we all must be prepared for our own backup plan. History proves that mcconnell and boehner are both liars and progressives and cannot be trusted by their words alone. Giving a scorpion a ride on your back and expecting that scorpion to not bite you... is just insanity. Ignore my words if you wish... but you do so in the face of overwhelming evidence that what I say is true... and you have to look no further back than the lies of the last continuing resolution.

LLS

40 posted on 07/15/2011 6:59:32 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"! I choose LIBERTY and PALIN!)
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To: Lumper20

“Personally, I believe the GOP needs to tell Obama to put his plan in writing as after his budget was voted down 97-0 Obama”

They missed THAT opportunity... obama has now demanded that THEY submit a plan by end of business today... obama controls the debate... the media... the discussions and the content. boehner and mcconnell have handed him his reelection on a golden platter of INCREASED future debt.

The question is... where do we go from here?

LLS


41 posted on 07/15/2011 7:03:19 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"! I choose LIBERTY and PALIN!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

You are a man that sees the world clearly and as it is.

LLS


42 posted on 07/15/2011 7:06:26 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"! I choose LIBERTY and PALIN!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I wish I could fix it. Easier said than done.


43 posted on 07/15/2011 7:33:46 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: tobyhill

Wonder how he is going to coral Snowe, Collins and Gramanesty? the 3 RINOS who need RETIRING ASAP.


44 posted on 07/15/2011 7:42:01 AM PDT by GailA (NO DEMOCRATS, NO RINOS in 2012!)
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To: tobyhill

Every one of these congress critters should take a 25% pay cut, and the President, VP too, also all vacation junkets are canceled until further notice. That includes the fancy expensive food served by moochelle at the WH. And we quit buying their clothes. They are multi millionaires and can afford to purchase such things out of their own pockets. Not the TAX SERFS.


45 posted on 07/15/2011 7:45:43 AM PDT by GailA (NO DEMOCRATS, NO RINOS in 2012!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

You cannot fix what is broken in DC... we must rid ourselves of the elected diseases that infect our government... there is no other solution short of civil war. I am not certain that enough Americans have the strength or will to even save themselves... much less our Republic.

LLS


46 posted on 07/15/2011 7:46:09 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"! I choose LIBERTY and PALIN!)
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To: tobyhill

The only thing that Boehner and McConnell are worried about is they don’t get blamed for whatever happens. Raise the debt ceiling, don’t raise the debt ceiling, cut spending, raise taxes......they don’t want people pointing fingers at THEM.


47 posted on 07/15/2011 7:48:38 AM PDT by Spirit of Liberty
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To: tobyhill

Excellent!!!!!


48 posted on 07/15/2011 7:56:45 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: LibLieSlayer

” I am not certain that enough Americans have the strength or will to even save themselves... much less our Republic.”

Arizona, Montana and Texas will not be plundered. Don’t know about other states.


49 posted on 07/15/2011 8:32:28 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Tell Obama-”You blew it. You used us for fools based on your word too many times” We will not and flat out refuse to deal with you again, as you have proven time after time that your word is no good.


50 posted on 07/15/2011 10:25:23 AM PDT by Lumper20
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