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Boehner: 'Too many people' in the room (Then leave and take all the GOP with you)
Politico ^ | 7/15/2011 | Jennifer Epstein

Posted on 07/15/2011 5:24:33 AM PDT by tobyhill

There are “too many people” in the room to work out a deal to raise the debt ceiling, House Speaker John Boehner complained on Thursday night as negotiations between President Barack Obama and congressional Republicans stay stuck in a stalemate.

“Whatever gets suggested, it gets debated to no end,” the Ohio Republican said on Fox News’s “On the Record with Greta Van Susteren.”

“The room’s too big. You know, too many people are in there trying to negotiate what is a very difficult — could be and will be a very difficult agreement. And there’s just too many people in there pouring cold water on virtually every idea that gets thrown on the table.”

The negotiations, Boehner said, have left the president “frustrated” and “the rest of us are frustrated, too.”

“I’ve been pushing the president all year to address this in a big way,” he said. “I don’t want to do some half-hearted thing. I don’t want to do some half-baked gimmick. We’ve got a problem. The American people sent us here to solve the problem. So why don’t we do what we’re supposed to do, solve the problem?”

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: boehner; dncrico; rico; rinos4obama; secretdeals
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1 posted on 07/15/2011 5:24:38 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill
"all the GOP?"

That's a slip.

2 posted on 07/15/2011 5:26:43 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: tobyhill

So revealing.

NO TAXATION WITHOUT TOO MANY PEOPLE IN THE ROOM . . .

Or something like that.


3 posted on 07/15/2011 5:27:02 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: tobyhill
If you're arguing about process, the goal is rarely achieved.

It's official: This administration is the least competent since....Fillmore?

4 posted on 07/15/2011 5:27:55 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: tobyhill
I suspect the addition of Pelousi has accelerated this negotiation from very difficult to IMPOSSIBLE. I knew it would get worse when she started demanding a ‘seat at the table’.
5 posted on 07/15/2011 5:28:37 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: tobyhill

Read as: There are too many people in the room... for me to cave and make a secret deal with my golfing buddy.”


6 posted on 07/15/2011 5:29:29 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: tobyhill

Boehner should not worry about ‘how many’ people are in the room, and instead worry about letting a ‘Minority Leader’ taking over the GOP agenda.


7 posted on 07/15/2011 5:30:15 AM PDT by The Bronze Titan
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To: tobyhill

He’s right.


8 posted on 07/15/2011 5:30:33 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (I'm sticking with Herman.)
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To: tobyhill

I don’t believe a single word from the Marxist pigs at politico. These no-talent hacks are rejects from the putrid washington post.


9 posted on 07/15/2011 5:30:43 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: tobyhill

The proper room is the floor of the House with 435 people.


10 posted on 07/15/2011 5:30:58 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: 1rudeboy

Take all the GOP out of the room.


11 posted on 07/15/2011 5:31:04 AM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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To: tobyhill
They should just dismiss Obama and deal directly with Valerie Jarrett. Eliminate the middle man.
12 posted on 07/15/2011 5:31:45 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: snowrip
>> Read as: There are too many people in the room... for me to cave and make a secret deal with my golfing buddy.”<<

That’s exactly right. I say the others better stay and make sure Boner doesn’t give away the farm.

13 posted on 07/15/2011 5:31:48 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: Paladin2

Right on! We are being sold down the river. The secret “Deal”. Sucks.


14 posted on 07/15/2011 5:34:22 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: tobyhill
The negotiations, Boehner said, have left the president “frustrated” and “the rest of us are frustrated, too.”

Oh my! To think Dear Leader is "frustrated" simply will not do, will it, you pusilanimous, RINO?

Hey Bone-Er, new flash: THAT IS YOUR JOB, DIMWIT!!!

Im sure I'm not alone is thinking this is going to end very badly and we are going to take it in the shorts again.

This wuss, Weeper of the House, NEVER even, attacked the Community Agitator when he had the opportunity when he was asked about O'Bozzo's threat that Seniors/Military retirees might not get their checks.

He simply mumbled something and avoided challenging the Messiah.

These Republi-Tards (after decades) STILL don't know how to fight like the Rats do and are sooooo afraid of their own shadows (and being villified by the Lame Stream Media...which ain't ever gonna change) that we stand 0 chance of ever reversing all of the damage the Neo-Commie Fascist has wrought, even, if we were to take control of the Senate and win the WH in 2012.

I am so angry and frustrated, that (ala Beck) blood is shooting from my eyes!

Is it too early to hit the bottle? lol

15 posted on 07/15/2011 5:34:24 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Time for a 2nd Party. We do not need a 3rd Party. We need a 2nd Party.


16 posted on 07/15/2011 5:35:54 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: tobyhill
This whole thing is really insane. Why are they even negotiating?

The house should simply pass a bill raising the debt limit for one month with dollar for dollar spending cuts. The bill should also spell out how spending will be prioritized in any circumstance. Send it to the senate and let Reid and Obama be responsible for any fallout.

17 posted on 07/15/2011 5:38:09 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (We .. have a purpose .. no longer to please every dictator with a vote at the UN. PM Harper)
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To: tobyhill
"The American people sent us here to solve the problem. So why don’t we do what we’re supposed to do, solve the problem?”

An excellent question, Mr. Boehner, and one which, I suspect, you are not prepared to answer.

The problem will be solved when the number of Democrats + Republicans in the House is <218, or when the 82nd Airborne retakes the capital.

18 posted on 07/15/2011 5:38:48 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Freedom is the freedom to say 2+2=4. If that is granted, all else follows.)
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To: originalbuckeye

“I knew it would get worse when she started demanding a ‘seat at the table’.”

She and the other windbags are part of Obama’s stalling game.


19 posted on 07/15/2011 5:40:38 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: tobyhill

What Boehner really means is there’s too many people in the room keeping an eye on him so he can’t cave in the way he usually does.


20 posted on 07/15/2011 5:40:52 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: CynicalBear

Boehner and the republicans should be holding a press conference everuy damn day. In no uncertain terms, they should be telling Americans EXACTLY what the democrat party wants to do.

Instead, they’re letting themselves get pushed around because of their PTSD-like fear that someone might call them unfair. Wake the fuck up, GOP... our country is at stake.


21 posted on 07/15/2011 5:40:59 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
This whole thing is really insane. Why are they even negotiating?

Well, that's an excellent question.

The President has a role in this process, which is to sign, veto, or take no action on a budget passed by the House and the Senate.

Why leaders of the House are even TALKING to him now is most curious.

22 posted on 07/15/2011 5:42:01 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Freedom is the freedom to say 2+2=4. If that is granted, all else follows.)
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To: tobyhill

Actually, he should eliminate the White House from the negotiations. The budget is the responsibility of the House. Caligula is included only as a courtesy. He has worn out his welcome and should be shown the door.

HA! That would be fun to watch.


23 posted on 07/15/2011 5:42:59 AM PDT by Jemian
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To: tobyhill

“”The American people sent us here to solve the problem. So why don’t we do what we’re supposed to do, solve the problem?”””

I heard him say this last night as I walked through the living room. Is he kidding? We NEVER send them there to SOLVE PROBLEMS. They cause our problems, why would we ask them to solve them? We send them there to do the right thing - as easy as ABC and yet it always develops into this crap!


24 posted on 07/15/2011 5:44:13 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: snowrip
In no uncertain terms, they should be telling Americans EXACTLY what the democrat party wants to do.

By their own actions, they are showing us what THEY want to do.

Forget the democrats - pay attention to the Republicans, because THAT'S where the problem is at the moment.

25 posted on 07/15/2011 5:44:18 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Freedom is the freedom to say 2+2=4. If that is granted, all else follows.)
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To: liberalh8ter
"Eliminate the middle man"

Absolutely. Replace Boner and Cantor with people that really run the GOP.

Grover Norquist. Bill Kristol. Rush Limbaugh. Koch Brothers. Gary Bauer. Tony Perkins

26 posted on 07/15/2011 5:44:18 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet
This is the face of capitulation on the part of the GOP. It is that simple. Taking defeat from the jaws of victory is another. Hey Bonehead, I don't give a damn if his excellency is frustrated, I want no increase in the debt load and if there is one, I want 4 dollars in immediate cuts for every dollar the debt goes up without any increase in revenues...got it. We are not dealing from a zero deficit point, we are already 14.5T in debt with deficits running over 1T as far as the eye can see....that is country killing so if der leader is frustrated, F..K him, I care about the country, my family and my dependents.

They are buying into the scare tactics. Let me get this straight, if the government goes along with a 2.5T raise in the debt level which brings it to over 17T, which it will reach in 18 months, which also means more than a 15% increase now, our interest rates will not be affected? This is all BS. It gets even worse when they say, well, we will seek a balanced budget amendment, IN FIVE YEARS OUT.

My advice, don't raise the debt limit, go on a pay as you go basis. Everything beyond the line of income just does not get paid, period, end of story.

Meanwhile, from what I see now, Bonehead is going along with the POS’ plan now. He is stiffing the conservatives in his party and is using these scare tactics as the reason why. Not only is he sinking the country in debt beyond repair, he has just handed the POS reelection and ensured the GOP will be the minority party forever.

27 posted on 07/15/2011 5:44:43 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: tobyhill

Dump Obama and things will get done the proper way.


28 posted on 07/15/2011 5:45:00 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: tobyhill
-- "I don't want to do some half-hearted thing. I don't want to do some half-baked gimmick. We've got a problem. The American people sent us here to solve the problem. So why don't we do what we're supposed to do, solve the problem?" --

The GOP has a majority in the House; which means his ultimate rhetorical question here is really aimed at his own performance.

So, why doesn't Boehner with his GOP majority in Congress solve the problem, and pass legislation to effect fiscal sanity? That's what they were sent to Congress to do, and they aren't doing it.

29 posted on 07/15/2011 5:46:19 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Former Proud Canadian
The house should simply pass a bill raising the debt limit by zer0 (zer0!!) dollars. That is, make a bold statement to end these closed door shenanigans. Nov 2010 was about recognizing the recent crazy jump in spending, not locking in "one-time" stimuli, and NOT raising any debt ceiling.


30 posted on 07/15/2011 5:46:28 AM PDT by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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To: tobyhill
BoneHead after that CR debacle, YOU ARE NOT any form of negotiator and second, Adi Amin Coo Coo Boo Hoo ,is NO President,so stay out of it and let the sober Tea Party Men handle it.
31 posted on 07/15/2011 5:47:24 AM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: Cheetahcat

Whatever happened to committee hearings and open meetings with “debate” leading to the proposal of a bill. How old fashioned, I guess.


32 posted on 07/15/2011 5:49:30 AM PDT by hal ogen
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To: Vaduz
-- Dump Obama and things will get done the proper way. --

Nope. He's just a convenient dumb-ass scapegoat, at this point.

CONGRESS has complete and total control over both federal spending and federal borrowing. It can dissolve the Federal Reserve tomorrow, if it has the will.

33 posted on 07/15/2011 5:50:54 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Mouton
There are some people who have said from the beginning that this is all theater. A made up play to manipulate the markets and crush the dollar. I am beginning to believe they are correct. Why the House just doesn't pass a budget and move the fight to the Senate and on to 0 is beyond me. A straight forward passed budget from the Reps three months ago would of put this in a whole other light. Something is very wrong.
34 posted on 07/15/2011 5:52:09 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (If you voted for Obama to prove you are not racist, vote against him to prove you are not an idiot.)
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To: tobyhill

Boehner and company need an exit summary such as:

“America’s debt and spending problems will NOT be solved by threats, cliches, and sound bites. That is why Senator Cantor and I have come prepared with plans, policies, and proposals, to tackle these difficult issues. The President and his people have failed to present any budget or plan to curtail the current spending trend and cap the current debt crisis. The government needs to get out of the way of free enterprise, provide a predictable regulatory environment, and stop penalizing success!”
Any pretense that government spending and regulation can possibly replace free enterprise is contrary to lessons of failed policies, throughout history.”


35 posted on 07/15/2011 5:52:49 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: tobyhill
"There are “too many people” in the room to work out a deal to raise the debt ceiling"

DAMMIT~! DAMMIT~! DAMMIT~! DAMMIT~! DAMMIT~!

WE DONT WANT TO "RAISE THE DEBT CEILING" - CUT OFF HIS CREDIT CARD~!

RAISE IT AND YOU ARE FUNDING YOUR OWN DESTRUCTION IN THE NEXT ELECTION

36 posted on 07/15/2011 5:53:14 AM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: tobyhill

I’ll tell you why there are SO many people involved with this.
What ever the ‘solution’ is...NO ONE wants his/her fingerprints on it!!!
The initiative and decisiveness necessary to getting things done and done properly, has been bred out of Americans.... LONG ago. Instead of individuals who are accountable and competent, we now have ‘committees’, groups, agencies.... NO ONE wants to (knows how to) take responsibility.

I wish we had a Harry Truman, Margaret Thatcher or a Reagan.... a stand alone, honorable and decisive individual who has the strength of his/her convictions and the resolve to follow through on the plan


37 posted on 07/15/2011 5:54:26 AM PDT by SMARTY (A claim for equality of material position can be met only by a government with totalitarian powers.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

You are exactly correct.

This negotiation with the Executive Branch is simply put...wrong. It is not how our legislature is supposed to operate.

The President is not part of the House or Senate. He should not be in the room. He is trying to micromanage the GOP and the GOP has fallen into the trap.

We need to get Boehner out of the room, back to presiding over the floor of the House, and pushing a debt ceiling bill up to the Senate.


38 posted on 07/15/2011 5:54:34 AM PDT by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: Cboldt

CONGRESS won’t make a move it’s more about party power then the budget the dems fear what Obama can do to them if they lift a finger,Pelosi is arm twisting now it’s why she isn’t in io the talks.


39 posted on 07/15/2011 6:05:39 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: tobyhill
The "Delphi Study" from a few years back reached the conclusion that (I'm paraphrasing here) apparent group consensus could be reached when a few loud mouths in a room agreed with each other.

That only works, however, when the rest of the room is passive. The GOP is (finally) no longer passive, thanks to the TEA parties, in my opinion. The house will simply not pass a tax hike, nor a stand-alone debt limit increase, no matter what the Loudmouth-in-Chief says.

40 posted on 07/15/2011 6:08:02 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: tobyhill

Sounds like a shot at Cantor to me. My pure speculation is that WH would tell Boehner that he needs to get rid of Cantor before getting anything meaningful out of them...pure speculation though.


41 posted on 07/15/2011 6:09:20 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: tobyhill

Agreed. Tell Mitch McConnell to STFU and leave.


42 posted on 07/15/2011 6:20:24 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: liberalh8ter
They should just dismiss Obama and deal directly with Valerie Jarrett. Eliminate the middle man.

Or George Soros. That's who the regime answers to, anyway.

43 posted on 07/15/2011 6:30:37 AM PDT by ScottinVA (As a party that gives Obama what he wants, what again is the GOP`s 2012 selling point?)
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To: mad_as_he$$

“Why the House just doesn’t pass a budget and move the fight to the Senate and on to 0 is beyond me. A straight forward passed budget from the Reps three months ago would of put this in a whole other light. Something is very wrong.”

Trying to avoid a veto at the 11th hour.

His policies and decisions over the past two years have been subversive. They know what they’re dealing with, up close and personal (though his malignant tendencies are now quite apparent to the casual observer).

They’re trying to avoid being saddled with the blame for his intransigence by “negotiating”.

No one but a marxist idealogue benefits from a US financial meltdown.


44 posted on 07/15/2011 6:31:58 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: hal ogen

“Whatever happened to committee hearings and open meetings with “debate” leading to the proposal of a bill. How old fashioned, I guess.”

That was when we had employees of the people,Now they are our rulers!


45 posted on 07/15/2011 6:32:49 AM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: ScottinVA
Yeah but he's Too busy scouring the globe for wounded currencies/companies/individuals from which to ravage wealth from. You've heard of fiscal hawks? Soros is a fiscal buzzard. Jarrett has to do his bidding so he can keep funneling his blood money to the liberals so they can continue to decimate America.
46 posted on 07/15/2011 6:34:52 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: BlatherNaut
Chess vs poker. 0 plays chess (being the unamerican he is) and the Reps are playing poker. The only way they meet is over the body of the taxpayer. Meanwhile the Reps continue to lose the PR war.
47 posted on 07/15/2011 6:36:05 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (If you voted for Obama to prove you are not racist, vote against him to prove you are not an idiot.)
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To: tobyhill

I would like to hope he is talking about Pelosi, but fear that he’s actually talking about Cantor...


48 posted on 07/15/2011 6:41:49 AM PDT by MNlurker
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To: MNlurker

The house should send a bill to the senate this is BS...the GOP will cave...Sarah is the only one with any balls..Wall street is going nuts saying this must be done...


49 posted on 07/15/2011 6:44:32 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: MNlurker

The house should send a bill to the senate this is BS...the GOP will cave...Sarah is the only one with any balls..Wall street is going nuts saying this must be done...


50 posted on 07/15/2011 6:44:51 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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