Skip to comments.Michele Bachmann Leaves Church Accused of Anti-Catholic Bias ["I Love Catholics"-Bachmann]
Posted on 07/15/2011 2:23:55 PM PDT by Steelfish
Michele Bachmann Leaves Church Accused of Anti-Catholic Bias
By James Oliphant July 15, 2011 Taking a page from President Obamas political playbook, Michele Bachmann has formally left a church in Minnesota accused of holding anti-Catholic views.
According to CNN, the church that Michele Bachmann and her husband Marcus had attended for more than a decade, Salem Lutheran in Stillwater, Minn., granted the couples request to be released from their membership last month, a week after Bachmann told a national audience that she would run for the Republican presidential nomination.
The Bachmanns had approached their pastor and verbally made the request a few weeks before the church council granted the request, said Joel Hochmuth, a spokesman for the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod, the governing body for the church
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That would have given them something to talk about that would have been tasty, instead of this.
I am a Catholic, but not offended by this. I am offended that she’s using Ed Rollins.
How this “non-news” can even be compared to Obama and the America-hating church that he subscribed to (until it became public) is a joke. The by-line says it all.
I mean, what are Protestants supposed to be ~ a sort of RC lite?
That’s the politically correct way to be. See, in liberal lalaland, all religions are the same no matter how different, so any religious person who has the audacity to separate the orthodox from the heterodox must be an intolerant bigot.
Maybe this stuff would go away when a Papal Catholic received a GOP nomination for President. I wonder who it will be?
Facts are stubborn things....
Things have changed, but we're still down by half. Get busy and convert those Christmas/Easter folks to the true political faith!
If it is true that she gave up her church for political gain, I’d scratch her from my list of possible candidates, no matter how ‘pure’ she seems on the issues.
Of course, I don’t have any respect for Henry IV, either.
Well that would mean actually saying that you believed us to be Catholic brothers and sisters in Christ.
If you can do that, great.
“It is possible to love and respect individual Catholics and at the same time oppose the teaching and structure of the RCC”
Catholics won’t buy into this. It’s no different than saying you can love Christ but don’t buy into the Church He established though St. Peter and his apostles.
Do you have respect for Bessie?
Luther, Calvin, Knox and the Westminster assembly all labeled the Pope as either "an" or "the" antichrist. Mrs. Bachmann hate the theology and love the people, but never leave the church for the love of the world.
It’s a really simple question.
As an evangelical protestant, they need to ask themselves,
“would I vote for someone who believed that I was a heretic?”
Do you think Jews would go for this? I like individual Jews but I don't buy into Israel.
“Well that would mean actually saying that you believed us to be Catholic brothers and sisters in Christ.
If you can do that, great.”
I know some Catholics are brothers and sisters in Christ.
“love Roman Catholic members,(we are to love our enemies)”
Again, would you vote for someone who considered you the enemy? I sincerely doubt this to be true.
I’m a Catholic and I’ll still vote for Bachmann.
What is news is that the LA Times is concerned about the bigotry against the Catholic Church.
First, this story was planted by a radical leftist, Adam Green whose goal was to create chaos among allies.
The bum succeeded. This story does not deserve this kind of hysteria.
Second, of course there are differences of opinion among members of churches, otherwise we would all belong to the same church.
There is truth to the story but those who are reacting should understand there are differences and it can also be said that Catholics think that all non-Catholics are heretics and are going to hell.
We've all been getting along and to take this liberal's bait does no one any good except liberals.
The Roman Catholics used to enforce parish bounds (did so when I was a kid but I understand things have loosened up these days with the demise of the parochial school system).
I guess Michele belonged to one of those churches where it's expected for you to request to move your membership.
We were analyzing the records of an old Baptist church on the frontier way back when (for genealogical purposes). It was very interesting. One gentleman who'd run afoul of the Deacons and Elders by requesting permission to leave the congregation was actually beaten nearly to death by them ~ and it sounded like they re-baptised him repeatedly.
Put the fear of God into the rest of them I'll tell you.
I doubt any modern Christian body would do that although that's still the Islamic standard ~ and they kill people.
So why did this Oliphant guy think any of this was peculiar?
There’s the heretic issue but even worse, I think, politically, is the RC church endorsement of the whole “social justice” thing. Either they are ignorant that is code talk for socialism/equal outcome (of misery) or they do know it, and that’s why we had Teddy going nuts with the taxpayer dollars. Not to say there aren’t many others who are doing the same thing in Congress, but I believe that is what the driving force was for Teddy.
And I know some protestant brothers and sisters in Christ. :)
We’re fighting the same battle. Blasting the Catholic church isn’t going to help you, anymore then if I were to blast your church for the same. You consider your congregation personal, but do not consider that Catholics feel the same.
We love the Church for what she is, just as you do. I know we have legitimate differences and disagreements, but much of the disagreement is heat and light.
I think you’re criticizing Bachmann for leaving her church and I agree. It makes one wonder what she really believes.
“Theres the heretic issue but even worse, I think, politically, is the RC church endorsement of the whole social justice thing. Either they are ignorant that is code talk for socialism/equal outcome (of misery) or they do know it, and thats why we had Teddy going nuts with the taxpayer dollars. Not to say there arent many others who are doing the same thing in Congress, but I believe that is what the driving force was for Teddy.”
Kennedy was an abomination, but please understand that there are many faithful Catholics who share your same qualms with the social justice agenda peddled by some of the bishops. Teddy, thankfully does not speak for the entirety of the Church, and the bishops do not speak for the entirety of the Church either. There are many, like Tim Dolan f’rinstance who agree with you and are vocal.
Thank you. If I agreed with CAtholic teachings, I would be Catholic. I don’t agree with Catholic teaching BUT I certainly believe there are many very devout Christians in the Catholic church. One of my best friends is Catholic and I know he worries about my salvation because I do not believe all the doctrine of the Catholic church BUT we agree on so much that we pray together and we have no problems. This is the way it should be.
His poor father had held out until his end in 1598 for a return of the Protestants to the RC fold. Of course it didn't happen.
Interesting that the United States is predominantly Protestant of some kind ~ just as imagined by Philippe III ~ but I also think he may have had in mind the idea that we'd come up with some new way here.
That's why we are talking, and I certainly hope working for Republican candidates.
Indeed. I’ve found the same myself. We are not the antichrist. One family in Christ with family disagreements...
Barack Obama is the precedent for the fact that, regardless of what’s preached in your church, you are not politically liable for what is preached there.
Michelle Bachmann is in the clear.
The most bigoted things I hear about Catholics these days comes from liberals, including liberal Christians.
Wisconsin Synod is one of the most conservative of Lutheran groups. Having said that, Lutherans of all stripes have railed against Catholics for centuries—since, like, LUTHER. Nothing new there. In fact, “anti-Catholic” is probably one of the issues that most closely unites all Lutherans from the Wisconsin Synod to the Missouri Synod to the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America. No news here—it’s part of Lutheran identity.
BUT... It would have been fun to see main-stream media types take on Lutherans as EXTREME. Oh, well.... Maybe she’ll join the Missouri Synod crowd and we can still have some entertainment; they are still fairly conservative.
I have to agree with posters above—you don’t change churches for politics. Makes me disappointed in you, Michelle. The political winds must be stronger than your faith commitment.....hmmmmm.
Well, thanks pal! LOL!
Duh. Can’t imagine a LUTHERAN church that has problems with the CATHOLIC church. /s/
Like oil and water for centuries?
FWIW, I am LCMS and totally believe the official doctrine of the LCMS, however, one of the most famous LCMS legislators was that liberal, Paul Simon. I have NOTHING in common with him except our membership was at the same church but he deserved to be excommunicated just like the wack job liberals who call themselves Catholics. They're no more Catholic than Paul Simon was LCMS.
Divide and conquer.. mock fight between catholics and lutherans..
I say expose the democrat weasles....
She left her church for politics? Not good. Not good at all.
The article doesn’t mention where she will be worshiping next. I wonder if she’s thinking of attending RCIA classes?
She probably left because she didn’t want her church to be attacked by the pathetic MSM and Left. I suppose they would attack it either way but it just shows how desperate they are (or how much they fear her). Doesn’t Rush always say the reason the Left goes after Palin so much is because they fear her?
Duh. Cant imagine a LUTHERAN church that has problems with the CATHOLIC church. /s/
LOL Good one!
Archbishop Dolan once mentioned our selfish use of oil in a blog post on his website. He's pro amnesty and government healthcare.
BTW, I am a Catholic in the NY Archdiocese.
Well, the name Protestant would assume they are protesting something, and Lutherans in particular could be assumed to be "anti" Catholic. Luther split from the Catholic Church after all.
I wonder if her Lutheran Pastor ever screamed, "Hillary ain't never been called a mackerel snapper lite!"
Sad that this is a story at all. And I'm a Catholic.
I have heard good things about him, but I defer to greater experience.
That’s a disappointment.
Boy, she’s becoming Pander Woman! I used to kind of like her, but she’s looking more and more like a distaff Huckleberry, I mean, Huckabee.
No argument there, but I do think it’s possible for a faithful protestant to believe that he has Catholic brothers and sisters in Christ. A church should exist for what it believes, not in opposition to those who it rejects.