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80 Percent of Americans Side With Obama in Debt Limit Talks? Not Quite (Obama lies, again)
Fox News ^ | 7/15/2011 | fox news

Posted on 07/15/2011 4:45:59 PM PDT by tobyhill

Seeking leverage against Republicans in the debt-limit standoff, President Obama on Friday declared a vast majority of Americans support his "balanced approach" to getting the nation's fiscal house in order.

"You have 80 percent of the American people who support a balanced approach. Eighty percent of the American people support an approach that includes revenues and includes cuts. So the notion that somehow the American people aren't sold is not the problem," Obama said at a White House briefing room news conference. "The problem is members of Congress are dug in ideologically into various positions because they boxed themselves in with previous statements."

But the president's numbers don't quite add up in the poll results he appears to be citing.

A Gallup poll released this week does show that only 20 percent favor the Republican approach that relies only on spending cuts. But that doesn't mean the other 80 percent favor the Democratic mix of tax increases and spending cuts.

In fact, 32 percent said they support spending cuts equally with tax increases. Another 30 percent said they prefer mostly spending cuts while 7 percent favored mostly tax increases. Just 4 percent threw their support behind tax increases alone.

Even so, it would have been fair to say at least 73 percent are open to some tax increases, and 69 percent are open to some mix of spending cuts and tax increases.

The extremes who prefer only spending cuts or only tax increases, however, are clearly in the minority.

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KEYWORDS: commiesraus; debtceiling; democrats; obama; youlie
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1 posted on 07/15/2011 4:46:01 PM PDT by tobyhill
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2 posted on 07/15/2011 4:46:53 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: tobyhill

To the Obama faithful, he doesn’t lie, but creates reality with his own pronouncements. That’s why you can’t argue with them and they will never, ever break from their Messiah. It’s both spiritual and pathological at the same time. This mentality makes people loyal to the death, and makes people walk into public places wired with explosives and nails dipped in rat poison. It’s the last stop for those who worship their emotions and become devoid of reason.


3 posted on 07/15/2011 4:52:52 PM PDT by Spok
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To: tobyhill

WHAT “balanced approach”?

As Speaker Boehner stated, it is like working with Jell-O - there is no “there” there.

If the titular head of the now failing obama regime cannot or will not commit any plans as to what he is willing to deal with, on paper, somewhere, then this really has been an exercise in futility.

And that cannot be good for anybody’s digestion.


4 posted on 07/15/2011 4:53:12 PM PDT by alloysteel ("Devastate your rivals, take no prisoners, smash mouths, glare meaningfully.")
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To: tobyhill

All Federal employees should pay an additional 5% income tax to help with the deficit. Including congress.


5 posted on 07/15/2011 5:00:36 PM PDT by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: tobyhill
If you send washington a dime, it will spend a quarter. So why give them more dimes, only realizing increased spending in quarters?

Dumb frickin American populace.........

Don't send money to Washington. It only encourages them that you can afford more, even when you die.

6 posted on 07/15/2011 5:01:44 PM PDT by blackdog (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop)
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To: alloysteel
"WHAT “balanced approach”?"

That would be where the balance was handicapped by starting with Moose Shell on one side.

7 posted on 07/15/2011 5:01:54 PM PDT by Paladin2
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In general, the GOP should reluctantly accept a 4:1 ratio of spending cuts to tax increases, making the increases non zero.

BUT.

The spending increases front load and the tax increases back load. Simply that. They want to talk about 10 years? Fine, 2.4 trillion over 10, with 300 billion in cuts in FY 2012, 30 billion in tax increases in FY2012.

And NO BS about it. When we say cuts, we mean cubicles empty. Government workers shown the door. And the tax increases? Those real, too. Wanna close a loophole for 20 billion in revenue? Go ahead. But if the economy sinks and you don’t get your 20 billion, tough. Those cubicles stay empty.

Now that’s a deal. Just remember, everyone. The whole subterfuge is about out years. The 10 year manure is manure. They want 10 years? Fine. But the cuts front load.


8 posted on 07/15/2011 5:02:01 PM PDT by Owen
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To: musicman

“Eighty percent of the American people support an approach that includes revenues and includes cuts.”

I remember when Hillary was out there calling taxes “contributions”. It sounded less silly then “revenues” for some reason.

We could tell Obama that if you’d get out of the way of the private sector and let it grow, “revenues” would increase automagically so long as the percentage of revenue extorted from people who actually pay into that “revenue stream” remains reasonable. Then again, there would be no crisis going to waste ... these people sicken me.


9 posted on 07/15/2011 5:03:26 PM PDT by edh (I need a better tagline)
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To: tobyhill

Obama lies again, yet, still, always...


10 posted on 07/15/2011 5:06:44 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Owen
When we say cuts, we mean cubicles empty. Government workers shown the door.

Unfortunately I don't believe that any of these so-called “cuts” being discussed are anything like that. These “cuts” are small decreases in the growth rate. You know, growing the budget of agency X by 5% instead of 8% is termed a “cut” in this sick national political dialog. (I would love to be proved wrong on this, but I ain't expecting it.)

11 posted on 07/15/2011 5:08:09 PM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: Spok
Obama is betting the 2012 Election on all this. Why not? All his failures are placed at the feet of the Republicans. He isn't accountable by the media.
12 posted on 07/15/2011 5:08:34 PM PDT by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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To: tobyhill

He also said 80% of the people want open homosexuality in the military.


13 posted on 07/15/2011 5:10:30 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: tobyhill

"Yes. Yes. I assure you. 80%. Why would I lie?"
14 posted on 07/15/2011 5:10:37 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: tobyhill

Obama is delusional and heavily, heavily medicated. The train wreck is happening right in front of us. He actually believes he is in control of events. Amazing to watch.


15 posted on 07/15/2011 5:11:26 PM PDT by hflynn
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To: tobyhill
Apparently getting in this soulless halfrican marxists crooks face and calling him an arch criminal who has stolen 2 trillion dollars from capitalists and small business and spread it out to his degenerate sex pervert friends in the US and overseas is beyond the capacity of the fossils that pass for GOP "leadership" to accomplish.

Hussein is evil incarnate.

Only default will cause the imbeciles that vote for socialists to stop watching reality TV and take notice.

Not that they will draw the correct conclusion, but at least the communist in chief will get whats coming to him and his comrades.

16 posted on 07/15/2011 5:14:00 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: hflynn

The man is getting desperate.


17 posted on 07/15/2011 5:14:47 PM PDT by donhunt (I am sick and tired of those bastards insulting and lying to me.)
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To: tobyhill

Actually, he is correct in a way. I’m sure that 80% of his people want higher taxes and more government handouts. Obama doesn’t have a clue what people in flyover country think or say. His worldview is New York City, Chicago, and Washington D.C. His associates are the parasites of our Country.


18 posted on 07/15/2011 5:22:24 PM PDT by CharlyFord (t)
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To: Rome2000

The GOP will never do what you say because they agree with most of the spending. A spendthrift Congress got us into this mess, why would anyone expect them to get us out?


19 posted on 07/15/2011 5:25:18 PM PDT by sheana
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To: CharlyFord

48% of Americans pay NO FEDERAL INCOME TAXES and lot o them get MONEY BACK from US!!!!! FLAT TAX NOW!!! Everyone needs to have skin in the game!


20 posted on 07/15/2011 5:26:57 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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