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Congress Must Prevent Harmful Cuts to Social Security and Medicare
AARP ^ | 7/12/2011 | Government Affairs and Campaigns

Posted on 07/15/2011 6:42:50 PM PDT by Mangia E Statti Zitto

Right now, President Obama and Congress are considering a deal to pay the nation's bills that could cut the Social Security and Medicare benefits seniors have earned through a lifetime of hard work.

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KEYWORDS: aarp; debt; default; economy; obama; socialism; socialsecurity
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1 posted on 07/15/2011 6:42:52 PM PDT by Mangia E Statti Zitto
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto

What plan and who is considering it??


2 posted on 07/15/2011 6:46:12 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto

AARP needs to be split up. The senior advocacy function should be a separate operation from the insurance function. AARP is suffering from a big conflict of interest.


3 posted on 07/15/2011 6:49:52 PM PDT by CharlyFord (t)
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto

Irresponsibility for a vested interest at its finest.

Go ahead AARP, for decades all of us have known these programs are going insolvent.

What selfish fools.


4 posted on 07/15/2011 6:50:53 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (EX Congressman Anthony Weiner: "Celebrate 'Perversity'")
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To: CharlyFord

Screw the AARP. Join AMAC instead. They have the insurance et al


5 posted on 07/15/2011 6:51:30 PM PDT by Pafreedom
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto
Obamacare, which AARP supports, cuts $4.95 trillion from Medicare. The AARP is just another mouthpiece of the Obama administration.
6 posted on 07/15/2011 6:52:23 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto
The Communists and Socialists of AARP are speaking out in favor of Obama. Who's surprised? Nobody.

Many people get Social Security benefits without putting much money into the system.

7 posted on 07/15/2011 6:54:07 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto

I guess the $500 BILLION cut in medicare is not harmful, since it was put in place with a ‘rat-run congress.


8 posted on 07/15/2011 6:54:13 PM PDT by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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To: death2tyrants

Obama BOUGHT AARP to get their endorsement. They are as evil as he is.


9 posted on 07/15/2011 6:54:13 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: death2tyrants

I am not sure how much is cut from Medicare, but certainly AARP is Obama’s mouthpiece and can KMA.


10 posted on 07/15/2011 6:54:22 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto
Gee, where were these phony, hypocritical, bloodsuckers last year when their (then) Messiah was cutting $500 BILLION from Medicare?

Oh, that's right, they were pushing Dear Leader's "Death Care" for all these bottom-feeding, scumbags were worth, knowing they stood to make a pile of dough from kickbacks in insurance policies they hawked to gullible Seniors.

Tore my membership card up 3 years ago and every person I can convince to drop there membership, I do.

11 posted on 07/15/2011 6:55:00 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto
AARP are Bolsheviks

12 posted on 07/15/2011 6:57:59 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

“...seniors have earned through a lifetime of hard work.”

Jefferson said each generation has the right to enter life free of debt; no generation has the right to force the following one to pay its debts (to do so is to make the living slaves to the dead).

Today’s “seniors” acquiesced in all the foolish spending
of the past decades—spending as if there was no tomorrow; now it is their moral duty to bear the burden and pay off those debts.


13 posted on 07/15/2011 6:58:32 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto

Just wondering though. What happens when the government messed up some senior’s credit because they’ve withheld their SS checks?


14 posted on 07/15/2011 7:00:39 PM PDT by SkyDancer (You know, they invented wheelbarrows to teach FAA inspectors to walk on their hind legs.)
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To: CondorFlight; qam1; bamahead
no generation has the right to force the following one to pay its debts (to do so is to make the living slaves to the dead)

Ah, but you forget the meaning of democracy: three wolves and a lamb deciding what's for dinner.

Today's "seniors" will not vote to sell their own children and grandchildren as slaves, but they will vote to sell each other's children and grandchildren as slaves.

15 posted on 07/15/2011 7:04:09 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: C210N
I guess the $500 BILLION cut in medicare is not harmful, since it was put in place with a ‘rat-run congress.

You beat me to it. They say NOTHING while they are promoting the Obamacare fiasco which included massive changes to medicare, and now want to express concern about proposed necessary changes?!? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.

AARP is nothing but a group of insurance hucksters. Why anyone continues to be a member is beyond my comprehension.

16 posted on 07/15/2011 7:04:51 PM PDT by RobertClark (On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.)
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto

This is the same group that threw out its own base when said base refused to back Obamacare.


17 posted on 07/15/2011 7:05:27 PM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto

Then Stop supporting Damn COMMUNISTS!! GOT IT?


18 posted on 07/15/2011 7:06:18 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto

The AARP would sell my parents if they could.

I hope someone shoves them up Obama’s smelly Obama.


19 posted on 07/15/2011 7:06:28 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: rabscuttle385
Today's "seniors" will not vote to sell their own children and grandchildren as slaves, but they will vote to sell each other's children and grandchildren as slaves.

Touche !!!

20 posted on 07/15/2011 7:07:55 PM PDT by RobertClark (On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.)
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto

Nobody is talking about cutting benefits for those already retired.


21 posted on 07/15/2011 7:09:44 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto

Then the AARP needs to stand up and call for cuts to the EPA, NEA, DOE, HUD.......


22 posted on 07/15/2011 7:10:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto; All

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Seniors may not get cost of living raises anymore and have their ss checks withheld, but Omuslim is going to take care of his muzzie bros!

THIS is the sh*t that should be cut!

BILLIONS FOR JIHAD!

Obama’s 2009 Supplemental Appropriations for Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Pandemic Flu was revised and “passed by the full committee.”
It gives billions http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2009/05/13/obamas-supplemental-bill-passes-gives-billions-to-enemies/
of U.S. taxpayer dollars to countries and entities that support Sharia law and/or harbor, hide and support those who want to destroy the U.S. and our allies.
Read the summary from David Obey’s office that was quietly released last week with nary a word from any media.

• $3.6 billion, matching the request, to expand and improve capabilities of the Afghan security forces

• $400 million, as requested, to build the counterinsurgency capabilities of the Pakistani security forces

• Afghanistan: $1.52 billion, $86 million above the request

• West Bank and Gaza: $665 million in bilateral economic, humanitarian, and security assistance for the West Bank and Gaza

• Jordan: $250 million, $250 million above the request, including $100 million for economic and $150 million for security assistance

• Egypt: $360 million, $310 million above the request, including $50 million for economic assistance, $50 million for border security, and $260 million for security assistance

• Pakistan: $1.9 billion, $591 million above the request

• Iraq: $968 million, $336 million above the request

• Oversight: $20 million, $13 million above the request, to expand oversight capacity of the State Department, USAID, and the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan to review programs in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq
• Lebanon: $74 million

• International Food Assistance: $500 million, $200 million above the request, for PL 480 international food assistance to alleviate suffering during the global economic crisis

• Refugee Assistance: $343 million, $50 million above the request, …including humanitarian assistance for Gaza. Funding for the UN Relief and Works Agency programs in the West Bank and Gaza is limited to $119 million (Note: Gaza = Hamas)

• Disaster Assistance: $200 million to avert famines and provide life-saving assistance during natural disasters and for internally displaced people around the world, including Somalia, Zimbabwe, Ethiopia, the Middle East and South Asia

•Peacekeeping: $837 million for United Nations
peacekeeping operations, including an expanded mission in the Democratic Republic of the Congo and a new mission in Chad and the Central African Republic

• Department of Justice: $17 million, matching the request, for counter-terrorism activities and to provide training and assistance for the Iraqi criminal justice system
The mainstream media remains silent on this but the International News has now picked up the story http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=22164
— and then there is Obama’s $108 billion IMF bailout scheme http://michellemalkin.com/2009/05/13/obamas-100-billion-imf-bailout-scheme/
in addition to the Supplemental.
And THIS is what Obama is doing to American taxpayers:
THE BIGGEST TAX HIKE IN AMERICAN HISTORY:
http://www.atr.org/days-thebr-largest-tax-hikes-history-a5370
PDF Version:
http://www.atr.org/files/files/090310pr-jan2011taxes.pdf
Obama gives your tax dollars to rebuild Muslim mosques around the world
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/26990#

ACCORDING TO THE ASSOCIATED PRESS, THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION WILL GIVE AWAY NEARLY $6 MILLION OF AMERICAN TAX DOLLARS TO RESTORE 63 HISTORIC AND CULTURAL SITES, INCLUDING ISLAMIC MOSQUES AND MINARETS, IN 55 NATIONS. See the State Department document here.
http://exchanges.state.gov/media/pdfs/office-of-policy-and-evaluations/ambassadors-fund/afcp2010list.pdf

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23 posted on 07/15/2011 7:14:11 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto
FUAARP
24 posted on 07/15/2011 7:14:21 PM PDT by Brandonmark (2012: Our Hope IS Change!)
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto

I once belonged to AARP...till I found out about their radical leftist views.

Funny thing is that I joined because of their travel discounts. I found out I could get better discounts from other sources. My father too found out he could get better insurance at lower rates elsewhere.


25 posted on 07/15/2011 7:14:45 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: fatnotlazy

AARP insurance for idiots. You have to be one to have it. They are like brainwashed Zombies playing a never ending game of shuffleboard.


26 posted on 07/15/2011 7:19:51 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto

Just prevent the harmful cuts. The ordinary cuts are still okay.


27 posted on 07/15/2011 7:21:19 PM PDT by jimfree (In 2012 Sarah Palin will have more quality executive experience than Barack Obama.)
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To: topher

“Many people get Social Security benefits without putting much money into the system.”

Correction: “Many people get Social Security benefits without putting much money into the Ponzi.”

I’d say they are the smart ones.


28 posted on 07/15/2011 7:22:12 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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29 posted on 07/15/2011 7:22:17 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: CondorFlight
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome. But once again, I'll give it a shot.

The Social Security Act, Medicare and (if you remember) Obamacare were not on a referendum for people to vote on. They were forced taxes that the US government guaranteed certain things. This isn't Enron, where certain individuals could be brought to justice. It is the freaking US government. We would have to prosecute every CongressCritter for the last 80 years for complicity. Acquiescence's wasn't the issue...people were forced into these programs.

Do I think SS and Medicare need to be reformed..I absolutely do. I hope they are in a way that is fair to all.

Do we need to pare the over bloated government in a way that they can keep their promises to our lenders and citizens? Yes. And that can be done by shutting down non-constitutional departments (DOE, EPA..etc). That could be done by term limits and the dissolution of pensions and special benefits. Put them all on the same “plan” we are on and maybe we will get a few statesmen...and not professional politicians.

Please quit blaming people that had no choice. Please look to the root of the problem.

30 posted on 07/15/2011 7:31:25 PM PDT by berdie
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To: CharlyFord

They helped Obama get elected. enough said


31 posted on 07/15/2011 7:37:55 PM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: Brandonmark; All

Well-stated! Great thread! Thanks to all posters.

DEFUND socialist collectives, foreign and domestic.


32 posted on 07/15/2011 7:38:47 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Pafreedom
What is AMAC? My supplemental carriers dropped me last year. The best plan I could find was AARP MedicareComplete. It has the same plan # as my plan last year which I'd have to go look up what it was called. I decided to get proactive and try to find the best plan myself. I told them I didn't want anything to do with AARP. The agent tried to convince me that it wasn't really AARP, but I didn't believe it. So I didn't sign up.

Then my son who sells ins looks into what they were recommending for their seniors this year. AARP MC, the same plan I found. I said well I can call and sign up then, but he said if I went through him he'd get the commission.

I don't know if there is a reliable better deal out there for next year.

I never joined AARP. As a govt worker, they started on me early, finally gave up lol. In those days, I thought they were probably a benign organization, just don't like more piddley payments for dues. They didn't have anything I wanted really.

33 posted on 07/15/2011 7:40:17 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: berdie; DoughtyOne; stephenjohnbanker; calcowgirl; BufordP; roamer_1; bamahead; Wolfie; randita
Please quit blaming people that had no choice.

They did have choices...many choices.

Please look to the root of the problem.

Look in the mirror. That's the problem.

Americans for decades convinced themselves that the only "viable" and "electable" choices were tax-and-spend Democrats and borrow-and-spend Republicans.

Now those same Americans don't want to pay for the consequences of their electoral retardation.

34 posted on 07/15/2011 7:48:22 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: berdie

Well said. My Dad was a world war II veteran who only got about $800 per month. He never voted for a Democrat. He never agreed with all this socialist crap.

He never made much money, but if he could have invested what the government took, maybe he would have done better. This blame game pretending that the “elderly” are all a bunch of liberal socialist scum is beyond ridiculous.

I asked my Grandpa what he thought about Medicare back when it passed. Tears came to his eyes. He did not want it, but Blue Cross Blue Sheild was discontinuing the white cross policy for old folks, and with pre-existing conditions it was his only option. White Cross at that time was better insurance than what was foisted on him.

He was a World War I veteran, and he didn’t like creeping socialism either.


35 posted on 07/15/2011 7:52:05 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Well, they ARE going to rue the day, but they took us down with them!


36 posted on 07/15/2011 7:56:37 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

True, and these are the same fools who pushed Obamacare. The Democrat party is the party of unintended consequences because its constituents are incapable of critical thinking and rational thought.


37 posted on 07/15/2011 8:06:47 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: CondorFlight
..now it is their moral duty to bear the burden and pay off those debts.

Sorry Charlie. We seniors make up the largest voting bloc in the country - and we've just started.

I'm just messing with you of course. But the end game will not be pretty. Seniors and Boomers (and most Freepers are Boomers) will not give up their SS or Medicare. So it will all end at some point in a massive collapse. Yep. A meltdown.

38 posted on 07/15/2011 8:19:11 PM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto
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39 posted on 07/15/2011 8:21:45 PM PDT by cashless (Unlike Obama and his supporters, I'd rather be a TEA BAGGER thaln a TEA BAGGEE.)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

Husband and I have been out of AARP for a long time; joined an alternate group not Chicago thug controlled. AARP like to have wore me out; started agging on me the best I can remember before I turned 50. They still send their magazines, cards and stuff even though we cancelled a long time ago. Son is 45; he’s in for a cheery greeting from AARP before he knows it!


40 posted on 07/15/2011 8:23:46 PM PDT by Twinkie (For whoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:13)
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To: rabscuttle385

Absolutely!

I see the current electorate changing things in monumental ways!! /s


41 posted on 07/15/2011 8:25:45 PM PDT by berdie
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To: stephenjohnbanker

“Obama BOUGHT AARP to get their endorsement. They are as evil as he is.”

I like the plain and honest talk from freepers.

Thanks.


42 posted on 07/15/2011 8:27:23 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: rabscuttle385

Obama and crew love this. Pit the young against the old, the “poor” against the “rich”, black against white, and on and on.

We’re seniors and still working. I’ve tried to always vote conservative, but the Republican Party has gone further left, and the Democrat Party is corrupt Socialist through and through. You’re mistaken.


43 posted on 07/15/2011 8:30:03 PM PDT by Twinkie (For whoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:13)
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To: Twinkie

I, too, dumped AARP a long time ago when I discovered what a bunch of leftists they are. Even told them why I wasn’t renewing.

I still get their “stuff” with no conrtibution.


44 posted on 07/15/2011 8:36:23 PM PDT by berdie
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To: rabscuttle385; ItsOurTimeNow; PresbyRev; Fraulein; StoneColdGOP; Clemenza; m18436572; InShanghai; ..

Xer Ping

Ping list for the discussion of the politics and social (and sometimes nostalgic) aspects that directly effects Generation Reagan / Generation-X (Those born from 1965-1981) including all the spending previous generations are doing that Gen-X and Y will end up paying for.

Freep mail me to be added or dropped. See my home page for details and previous articles.  

45 posted on 07/15/2011 8:37:01 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Your post troubles me.

This is not generational warfare.

It is government mismanagement..plain and simple.


46 posted on 07/15/2011 8:39:12 PM PDT by berdie
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To: Twinkie
Obama and crew love this. Pit the young against the old, the “poor” against the “rich”

I hear about cuts to social security and medicare constantly.

Has anyone heard even one word about cutting welfare benefits? subsidized housing? healthcare for illegals? food stamps?

47 posted on 07/15/2011 8:39:49 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Mangia E Statti Zitto

AARP got in bed with SEIU over Obamacare and lost a lot of their members. They also lied to Seniors because of insurance dollar signs.


48 posted on 07/15/2011 8:45:21 PM PDT by Grey Eagle
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To: ladyjane

Nope. Not a peep about welfare, subsidized housing, illegals’ welfare, food stamps.

I’m willing to do my part to help solve this mess. I’ll pay my own medical bills. We’re still working at 68 & 65.


49 posted on 07/15/2011 8:49:44 PM PDT by Twinkie (For whoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Romans 10:13)
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To: berdie
Do I think SS and Medicare need to be reformed..I absolutely do. I hope they are in a way that is fair to all. Do we need to pare the over bloated government in a way that they can keep their promises to our lenders and citizens? Yes. And that can be done by shutting down non-constitutional departments (DOE, EPA..etc).

Yes the Republicans are stupid.

I would like to see both programs phased out

But from a political stand point SS and Medicare should be last, not 1st on the chopping block

Cut Obama's Czars, cut foreign aid, cut medicaid and welfare, cut Farm subsidies, The environment and education are no longer the third rails they once were so you can target the NEA and EPA also.

How can you tell a senior you are cutting their social security but we are still going to give James Hansen billions for his global warming nonsense or billions to Archer Daniels Midland.

Make Obama defend those

After the government is stripped down, then go for SS & medicare.

50 posted on 07/15/2011 8:53:51 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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