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Seahawks' Golden Tate criticizes NASCAR driver Jimmie Johnson
Seattle Times ^ | 7-15-2011 | Associated Press

Posted on 07/15/2011 10:50:36 PM PDT by Route797

LOUDON, N.H. — Jimmie Johnson has two titles he is especially proud to have linked to his name. Five-time NASCAR champion. AP Male Athlete of the Year.

Johnson was swept into a brief Twitter feud this week because of his inclusion as a nominee for male athlete of the year at the ESPY Awards.

Seahawks receiver Golden Tate posted on his account, @ShowtimeTate, "Jimmy johnson up for best athlete???? Um nooo .. Driving a car does not show athleticism."

Tate, 22, angered NASCAR fans and posted, "12th man get these rednecks off me."

More Tate tweets:

• "I've driven a car on unknown roads at night at 90mph no big deal. No sign of athletism."

• "Guarantee he couldn't in million year play any SPORT."

• "give me 6 months of training and I bet I could compete."

NASCAR defenders got Tate's attention.

"Apologies for my offensive comment to NASCAR fans. I actually read up on it and NO I couldn't race a car 150 mph," he wrote.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


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KEYWORDS: football; nascar; nfl; seahawks
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Maybe Golden Tate could enter the Daytona 500 and Jimmie Johnson could line up for the Seahawks. They could compare notes after they each got out of the hospital.
1 posted on 07/15/2011 10:50:43 PM PDT by Route797
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To: Route797
"I've driven a car on unknown roads at night at 90mph no big deal. No sign of athletism."

90? ...lol.

Race car driving requires great hand-eye coordination and stamina.

2 posted on 07/15/2011 10:53:36 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Route797
NASCAR defenders got Tate's attention. "Apologies for my offensive comment to NASCAR fans. I actually read up on it and NO I couldn't race a car 150 mph," he wrote."

Sounds like his agent screamed at him to apologize and shut up.

3 posted on 07/15/2011 10:56:52 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Route797
They could compare notes after they each got out of the hospital.

Unlikely.

Golden Tate would be dead.

4 posted on 07/15/2011 11:00:15 PM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Route797
... "Jimmy johnson up for best athlete???? Um nooo .. Driving a car does not show athleticism."

Look, I'm not defending NASCAR here, Mister Tate, but why don't you shut up? You play for the SEAHAWKS.

You only look particularly spectacular because the Seahawks are so spectacularly lousy.

5 posted on 07/15/2011 11:01:35 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Route797

Keep idiots away from Twitter. One reason I don’t tweet.


6 posted on 07/15/2011 11:03:09 PM PDT by karnage
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To: buccaneer81

At Daytona and Talledega, 150 is what they slow down to in the turns.

My advice to Golden Tate, should he ever be foolhardy enough to actually try to race in NASCAR:

Drink a gallon of Colyte prep and take a Fleet enema the night before the race. It’ll make your driving suit a lot more comfortable.


7 posted on 07/15/2011 11:04:36 PM PDT by shibumi (While Pablo was wily, William Blake was even more wilier. But the wiliest of all was Desdinova.)
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To: shibumi

Football only requires 1 ball....NASCAR requires 2...nuff said. And yes I root for Seahawks being the local team here.


8 posted on 07/15/2011 11:14:35 PM PDT by freebird5850 (Of course Obama loves his country...it's just that Sarah Palin loves mine!)
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To: Route797

How many minutes out of 60 is Tate actually doing something? A 500-mile race will take three hours or more to complete with the driver never leaving the car which can be 130 deg. inside, making split-second decisions constantly.

Nobody seems to have an problem calling golfers athletes.


9 posted on 07/15/2011 11:19:34 PM PDT by beelzepug (" Shaved ice for me and my monkey, please.")
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To: Route797

It’s really funny when ‘athletes’ bag on racers as not being “athletes.” I’m not a big NASCAR guy but to be amped on adrenaline almost non stop for 500 miles at 200 mph... Most people are exhausted after a 2 hour trip in the passenger seat.

I challenge anyone thinking that racing requires no athletic ability to strap in to the passenger seat of a SCORE off-road Trophy Truck and do 1000 miles in Baja.

750 Horsepower 30 inches of wheel travel and no Air conditioning or onboard entertainment systems. Takes about 20 hours or so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXWHE7toicA

Nope, just a Sunday afternoon drive ;)


10 posted on 07/15/2011 11:22:08 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Route797

I would think that Golden Tate would be right if the NASCARs had air conditioning. But doing that for several hours wearing all that gear has got to be taxing. I’ll bet racing cars is more athletic than golf.


11 posted on 07/15/2011 11:22:52 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: Route797

Rednecks? Why not Crackers?


12 posted on 07/15/2011 11:29:54 PM PDT by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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To: beelzepug; Route797
>>> Nobody seems to have an problem calling golfers athletes

Certainly not I.


13 posted on 07/15/2011 11:32:17 PM PDT by tlb
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To: Route797

I’ll bet racing a car requires more physical and mental stamina, and heat-tolerance, than being a baseball player. Baseball requires quick bursts of strength and speed, but there’s a lot of rest time in between. In baseball, you’re spending 95% of your time standing around (and you’re guaranteed half the game, minus at-bat and on-base, sitting in a shaded dugout with iced gatorade at the ready). I don’t see any big controversy over whether baseball players are athletes or not.


14 posted on 07/15/2011 11:35:45 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: Route797
"Apologies for my offensive comment to NASCAR fans. I actually read up on it and NO I couldn't race a car 150 mph," he wrote.

Try 200 while drafting. I did spot for Super Late Model (not those speeds) for a couple of years. Funny, I enjoyed watching the race more than spotting. Golden Tate should take a couple of hot laps for an attitude adjustment.
15 posted on 07/15/2011 11:38:41 PM PDT by PA Engineer (SP/AW12: Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: freebird5850

Hawks’ fan here as well. You’d think would weed out the idiots with the Pete carroll era.


16 posted on 07/15/2011 11:44:34 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: buccaneer81

He’s not fit to scrape mud off a redneck’s farm boots.


17 posted on 07/15/2011 11:56:59 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: PA Engineer

Every racer I ever saw getting out of a car (or truck) was soaked in swear and clearly ‘exerted’ if not outright tired. Even the local limited lap events are pretty demanding. It gets pretty hot in there with no insulation on the floor/firewall.

Years ago one of the off-road magazines ran a series on one of the sport’s biggest name stars of the day, Ivan “Ironman” Stewart and his physical training routine. Most race fans have probably heard the name somewhere along the lines - Toyota truck commercials, video games etc. It was pretty much Olympic caliber training stuff. Stewart got the name from racing, and repeatedly winning, the Baja 1000 solo.

He was far away from ‘not an athelete.”


18 posted on 07/15/2011 11:58:34 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: tlb

OK, ‘fess up. When did you take my picture?


19 posted on 07/16/2011 12:02:21 AM PDT by beelzepug (" Shaved ice for me and my monkey, please.")
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To: tlb
Not to mention John Daly is likely drunk as a skunk too. But man can that guy drive! A golf ball that is.

Actually Nascar drivers are in very good physical shape. They need to be for the stamina it takes. I don't know of a fat Nascar driver. But I see plenty of morbidly obese football players. 400 lb. linemen? That ain't muscle weight.

20 posted on 07/16/2011 12:02:28 AM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: Route797

If sitting on your ass behind the wheel, no matter how many labs you make, makes you an athlete, then I guess we will see car racing in the Olympics next year.


21 posted on 07/16/2011 12:02:30 AM PDT by fish hawk (Don't worry about old age, it doesn't last that long!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Who would you think is more the athlete. A guy racing by foot around that track one time or a driver going around 20 times? A guy sits on his ass for many days on the way to the moon in a rocket. Everyone knows that takes skill and talent and he has to be in shape. I guess that makes him an athlete????


22 posted on 07/16/2011 12:09:12 AM PDT by fish hawk (Don't worry about old age, it doesn't last that long!)
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>> Tate: “give me 6 months of training and I bet I could compete.”

Why would Tate train for a non-athletic competition?


23 posted on 07/16/2011 12:10:25 AM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: Route797

Kyle Busch sucks!

Now that that’s outta the way.....the following are NOT athletes.....Horses......NASCAR drivers....Golfers.....Bowlers....The Houston Astros. :)


24 posted on 07/16/2011 12:23:55 AM PDT by Sporke (USS-Iowa BB-61)
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To: Norm Lenhart
He was far away from ‘not an athelete.”

I would kid my driver (friend) on the fire suit (black) being stained in sweat. He wore it as a baptismal badge. I would marvel on track signing day that he would stand out there in the hot sun signing the long line from t-shirts to hats. I would hunker in the air conditioned featherlite.

Foot injuries were the most damaging. They were very prevalent and debilitating. I could not imagine driving that way. I did adjustment laps. I enjoyed it, but only if I did not have to share with 20+ cars.

With all due respect to the female drivers I gained an appreciation for the brass ones needed to compete in this sport (not to mention the technical aspects).
25 posted on 07/16/2011 12:32:36 AM PDT by PA Engineer (SP/AW12: Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: PA Engineer; Salamander

Oh, ovaries occasionally come in brass too :-)


26 posted on 07/16/2011 12:44:00 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: fish hawk

Depends on the track.

Having known a few of the top level Off-Road racers and having sat shotgun with a few of them in actual races in Baja, I can tell you that many are every bit as athletic as some Baseball players. The absolute pounding the body takes is something that has to be experienced. My non athletic self had to be helped out of the truck at 250 miles. Took a few days to even want to move again.

Hey, if you think it’s a bunch of fat guys cruising with one hand on the wheel, so be it. If you saw the post I made above I mentioned a series a mag did with Ivan Stewart. As another part of it, they sent him up with a figher jock in a jet and did the routine. Then the jock got in the truck with Stewart and they went through that routine.

Unless you think a fighter pilot isn’t an athlete, the man said it was one of the most intense and physically grueling things he’d ever experienced.


27 posted on 07/16/2011 12:47:39 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Route797

To my mind auto racing involves the test of a machine, not a human. Therefore, it’s not truly athleticism, regardless of the driver’s physical abilities. Kind of like being a horse jockey: it’s the horse who’s competing.


28 posted on 07/16/2011 12:53:47 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: PA Engineer

Not much tin between a 250 degree engine and an even hotter tranny and ‘Yo Arse” ;) That nomex isn’t the coolest stuff I ever wore either.

These guys crack me up. “Athlete” isn’t only a running back or Wide receiver or an Olympic power lifter (lets see one of them run around the other poster’s race track for a lap - of they even could. But they can bench 500 lbs. while the runner struggles with 200 or less.) Hell most athletes say most sport is more mental than physical anyway.


29 posted on 07/16/2011 12:57:01 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Oh, ovaries occasionally come in brass too :-)

Yep. :-)
30 posted on 07/16/2011 12:57:45 AM PDT by PA Engineer (SP/AW12: Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I remember this one...

Ricky Rudd doing an interview in victory lane - on his back:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCtddIpHWLM&feature=related


31 posted on 07/16/2011 1:01:47 AM PDT by RedCell (Honor thy Father (9/6/07) - Semper Fi / "...it is their duty, to throw off such government...")
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Mr. R, Have a look at this if you would

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pED0nMJH_F4&NR=1


32 posted on 07/16/2011 1:06:26 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Route797

There are only two professional sports; Golf and autopmobile racing. You have to win to get paid. All the other “professional sportr” are just business. The workers are on SALARY.


33 posted on 07/16/2011 1:07:07 AM PDT by snowtigger (.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
That nomex isn’t the coolest stuff I ever wore either.

LOL. We still do wings and they remind me of my first radio words. "Dude, where's the breeze!"
34 posted on 07/16/2011 1:07:33 AM PDT by PA Engineer (SP/AW12: Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: Route797

People who have never raced don’t really understand what they are talking about. When I was 21, I raced a dirt modified. I was in very good physical condition and I was always exhausted after 20 laps. Sometimes, I was breathing as heavily as after running a mile. I was driving a 4,000 lb. car with a 400 HP motor 80 mph entering the turn on a 1/4 mile track. With 20+ cars around me. I promise you, the car does not do all the work. When you are turning a car 180 degrees with turns the same radius as a running track, you are pulling a lot of G’s. Not to mention wearing a 3-layer firesuit, fireproof underwear, neck brace, and helmet in 100 degree temps here in Texas.

I know NASCAR is different, but I can assure you, the above is nothing like getting in the car and running to the mall.


35 posted on 07/16/2011 1:15:11 AM PDT by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: Tex Pete

Not to mention the fact that you have to be completely focused the whole time you are racing, whether in a 6 lap heat race or a 500 mile race at Daytona. Focus and adrenaline. Not sure I can think of any other sport that requires that kind of focus for the duration of the event.


36 posted on 07/16/2011 1:18:02 AM PDT by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

There’s no doubt that racing requires physical prowess.


37 posted on 07/16/2011 1:32:37 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Tex Pete

Exactly what I was getting at. The absolute concentration, situational awareness and adrenaline sustained for that amount of time is incredible. I’m sure you know the stories (true stories) how racers, very much physically fit people have had heart attacks in the car.

Every turn - adrenaline rush. Every bump from another car - adrenaline rush/impact, Every over/understeer - adrenaline rush...over and over and over and over for X dozen/hundred miles. On top of the physical aspect of handeling an on the edge of control 2 ton projectile of metal and composites.

Nope, just a leisurely Sunday drive. Some people will never experience that kind of joy...sucks to be them ;)


38 posted on 07/16/2011 1:32:49 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Tex Pete

And if you lose that focus, you could very easily end up dead.


39 posted on 07/16/2011 1:32:49 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Yup, lots of it. It’s just a different kind of athleticism. It’s far from traditional as we often define it, but it still can be defined as athletic.

Same with Bass fishing...

OK, Now I’m kidding ;)


40 posted on 07/16/2011 1:35:56 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Fresh Wind

Sad but true.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9jWe3xab98

1995. Driver lived, co-driver seriously injured, later passed away.


41 posted on 07/16/2011 1:40:29 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
Same with Bass fishing...
OK, Now I’m kidding ;)

No, not really! Bass fishing requires physical prowess as well. I confess, not as much as other sports, but physical prowess nonetheless. But really, if we're not ready to accept bass fishing as a form of athleticism, we need to ask ourselves why, and seek to find some standard by which we can say that one kind or degree of physical activity is athletic and another kind or degree is not.

42 posted on 07/16/2011 1:41:58 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: beelzepug
Nobody seems to have an problem calling golfers athletes.

What made Tiger Woods "Athlete of the Year" was his performance *away* from the links, not on them.

43 posted on 07/16/2011 1:43:52 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Simple! The standard is that if you can partake in the ‘sport’ while simultaneously “casually” drinking a beer, You might be Redneck... but not an athlete ... how’s that? ;)

Normie (Genuine AZ Redneck)


44 posted on 07/16/2011 1:47:30 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: Sporke
Horses?

It's like tennis, you can have a lazy set of mixed doubles, or Wimbledon.

A fox hunt where the hounds find 3-4 times, or a three-day event, calls for stamina, athletic ability, and skill. You might make it through a walking trail ride on an old fat grade horse, but not either of those.

45 posted on 07/16/2011 1:54:44 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: shibumi
At Daytona and Talledega, 150 is what they slow down to in the turns.

Actually, I think that at those two tracks, they'd be overrun if they slowed to 150 in the turns!

46 posted on 07/16/2011 1:55:42 AM PDT by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I had mine bronzed.

:)


47 posted on 07/16/2011 2:01:28 AM PDT by Salamander (I'm your pain.)
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To: Flycatcher
Golden Tate would be dead.

Nah. Although Golden Tate would almost certainly wreck out of the race within the first 5 laps, he wouldn't be dead--those cars are virtually deathproof now.

48 posted on 07/16/2011 2:03:29 AM PDT by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: Norm Lenhart
The standard is that if you can partake in the ‘sport’ while simultaneously “casually” drinking a beer, You might be Redneck... but not an athlete ... how’s that? ;)

Just as I thought! Baseball is not a sport!

49 posted on 07/16/2011 2:12:21 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

But your batting average drops considerably swinging a bat one handed!


50 posted on 07/16/2011 2:13:47 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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