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Homeless in Hawaii Baffle Liberals in Government
Honolulu Star Advertiser ^ | 07/15/2011 | Leila Fujimori

Posted on 07/16/2011 12:42:35 PM PDT by Lornik

City Transportation Services Director Wayne Yoshi­oka says the city is not setting a precedent by moving a Kapiolani bus stop because of complaints about a homeless woman who had taken up residence at the shelter near Keeaumoku Street.

The city received complaints from bus riders who didn't like having to wait for the bus near the homeless woman, who has hygiene issues.

Tessie Cadelina, 66, who catches the bus daily to and from work, said Thursday, "I no like sit down if the lady stay there. The smell."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: homeless; honolulu; liberal; waikiki
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1 posted on 07/16/2011 12:42:39 PM PDT by Lornik
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To: Lornik
"I no like sit down if the lady stay there. The smell."

Atlanta public school education victim.

2 posted on 07/16/2011 12:46:32 PM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: Lornik

Evidently the ‘homeless’ lady is not so homeless.


3 posted on 07/16/2011 12:51:33 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle
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To: Lornik

If I had to be homeless somewhere, Hawaii wouldn’t be so bad. I love the beach and could sleep on the beach every night of the year.


4 posted on 07/16/2011 12:53:27 PM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: Balding_Eagle

Hose her down and move her to a bus stop near the zoo. She’ll blend right in.


5 posted on 07/16/2011 12:54:31 PM PDT by donhunt (I am sick and tired of those bastards insulting and lying to me.)
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To: Lornik
a homeless woman who had taken up residence at the [bus] shelter near Keeaumoku Street.

Why doesn't the homeless woman take up residence at the Governor's Mansion? I'm sure it's much nicer there, and they have showers.

I mean if public facilities are not allowed to be dedicated to a specific purpose, why not?

ML/NJ

6 posted on 07/16/2011 12:56:12 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Lornik
Those are not homeless ladies they are liberal cows..Remember they let the hair under their arms grow and do not wear deodorant bath very seldom if at all..dress like bag ladies..No I doubt those are homeless women..
7 posted on 07/16/2011 12:57:25 PM PDT by PLD
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To: Lornik

Nothing a fire hose wouldn’t cure.


8 posted on 07/16/2011 12:57:33 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Lornik
One comment from the news site:

When I deposited my mother at that bus stop a couple years ago, I felt it was an ideal location for her to meet more people and enjoy her retirement years. Also, she stunk up my carport.

If those of you complaining would only treat your family with as much care and love as I do (I stop by at least twice a week with McDouble cheeseburgers and handi-wipes), you might be more likely to understand the desire for alternative living arrangements of today's ecologically sensitive seniors. She is living off the land and loving every minute of it, and I fully support her individuality. Except when she is defecating in discarded coffee cups, that is just gross.

9 posted on 07/16/2011 12:57:42 PM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: murron

LOL....Me too!

I can’t think of a better place to be homeless.


10 posted on 07/16/2011 1:01:09 PM PDT by Gator113 (Palin 2012, period.....)
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To: Gator113

San diego not a bad spot either....


11 posted on 07/16/2011 1:04:14 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: Lornik
Liberals in government have, basically, two states:
  1. raise taxes on everything productive or enjoyable
  2. bafflement when this doesn't produce Heaven on Earth.
State 1 is accompanied by lots of rhetoric about how it's bad for some people to have more money than other people and that means that their quest for more and more tax revenue is actually a virtue.

State 2 is accompanied by all kinds of excuses and fingerpointing at various boogiemen. See Vast Right Wing Conspiracy for more on this.

12 posted on 07/16/2011 1:04:30 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Lornik

When I was a kid in the ‘60’s there were no homeless. You could go anywhere downtown and not be bothered. Then, the ACLU sued during the Carter administration and forced all people being held in mental institutions without their consent to be released; instant homeless problem. The vast majority of the homeless have mental issues that prevent them from being productive members of society. But they can’t be institutionalized unless they’re a danger to themselves or others. Now, the mandated costs of institutionalization make it unlikely anybody will be institutionalized even for the 2 week detox period officials used from the Reagan administration until the present. It just cost too many taxpayer dollars. So, people who are incredibly dangerous simply do damage until they get put into the prison system; where they remain dangerous but temporarily out of action.

The main public library downtown has a full-time armed police guard who patrols every corner of all four floors continuously. There have been rapes, muggings and all manner of assaults. They can’t kick the homeless out until the library closes. The librarians told me they won’t go into some areas without the cop. The homeless pee and poop in the corners. This problem mostly exists because there’s a homeless shelter a block away.


13 posted on 07/16/2011 1:04:30 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gator113

San Diego not a bad spot either....


14 posted on 07/16/2011 1:04:42 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: Gen.Blather
But they can’t be institutionalized unless they’re a danger to themselves or others.

In practice, this statement becomes "but they can't be institutionalized until they kill at least one person."

15 posted on 07/16/2011 1:07:59 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: submarinerswife
...you might be more likely to understand the desire for alternative living arrangements of today's ecologically sensitive seniors.
She is living off the land and loving every minute of it, and I fully support her individuality.
Except when she is defecating in discarded coffee cups, that is just gross.

LL!
*stunned*
*o.m.g.*
*chuckle*

"pass the wipes!" :)


16 posted on 07/16/2011 1:08:29 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (You do not have to smear (Pharaoh / Imam / DumboEars) Obama w/ lies....the truth does a fine job. :)
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To: Lornik
Years back, when NYC under Dinkins was a cesspoll, and you had thousands of homeless people LIVING in Grand Central Station, I was in midtown Manhattan for a meeting with some out of town HQ execs. It's about 9am, I'm having coffee, and I see these two ladies from the HO get off the elevator..they look like they'd seen a ghost...I walked over, asked what happend, and they said that they're crossing 45ths..near 6th ave, and there is this large street lady, squatting and taking a DUMP between two parked cars...

Yes folks, it WAS that bad..till Rudy cleaned it up. We forget..

17 posted on 07/16/2011 1:08:58 PM PDT by ken5050 (Save the earth..it's the ONLY planet with CHOCOLATE!!!)
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To: Lornik

The city received complaints from bus riders who didn’t like having to wait for the bus near the homeless woman, who has hygiene issues.

Tessie Cadelina, 66, who catches the bus daily to and from work, said Thursday, “I no like sit down if the lady stay there. The smell.”


Bar of soap. tub of water, chain gang from the local or county jail. Problem solved.


18 posted on 07/16/2011 1:12:18 PM PDT by Grunthor (Faster than the speed of smell.)
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To: delchiante

I’ve heard that, but it’s a bit too close to the border for my liking. ;>)


19 posted on 07/16/2011 1:15:55 PM PDT by Gator113 (Palin 2012, period.....)
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To: Grunthor

Well, you can wash them up once but they just keep pooping.


20 posted on 07/16/2011 1:17:15 PM PDT by squarebarb
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To: Gen.Blather
About two years ago, there was a homeless guy here in E-Town with some mental issues who set fire to a historic log cabin that Thomas Lincoln had helped build, almost gutting it. He was released from jail a few months later after being ruled incompetent to stand trial. Two days later, he attacked a woman in Freeman Lake Park and attempted to rape her right in front of her two young children. Fortunately there were some joggers nearby who came to her rescue.

The guy ended up pleading to the attempted rape charges and got 7-10. If they'd locked him up after he burned down the cabin, this wouldn't have happened.

21 posted on 07/16/2011 1:19:24 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: ken5050
Yes, Rudy Giuliani ~ he did it. I remember a trip up there at the time he was mayor ~ all those overhanging marquees hanging out over the sidewalks WERE BEING CLEANED ~ the mountains of garbage and debris that'd fall on them through the years were being taken away.

And that was right after being nearly shocked out of my seat when we went through the TUNNEL and found out those were not black tiles!

Yes, people forget.

22 posted on 07/16/2011 1:22:16 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Lornik

Move her to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave,The Smell would be no problem there and the Obamas have made that into a crack Den.


23 posted on 07/16/2011 1:24:24 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: submarinerswife

Is this woman your mother-in-law or something?


24 posted on 07/16/2011 1:32:30 PM PDT by donhunt (I am sick and tired of those bastards insulting and lying to me.)
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To: Steely Tom
But they can’t be institutionalized unless they’re a danger to themselves or others.

One of my friends is a doctor's nurse and she told me that last week her doctor was called in to remove several paper clips and a plastic spoon from the stomach of a homeless man. this is the third time this guy has swallowed metal objects. He does not have insurance and she said he is probably doing it to obtain the pain medication, or maybe he is just crazy.

25 posted on 07/16/2011 1:33:23 PM PDT by oldbrowser (Generations from now Obama will still be the worst president ever.)
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To: Lornik

“THE SMELL” makes the mind wander in places it don’t want to go...


26 posted on 07/16/2011 1:37:26 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Steely Tom

“In practice, this statement becomes “but they can’t be institutionalized until they kill at least one person.””
About 25 years ago there was a homeless man in Tampa named Billy Ferry. His family had begged civic authorities to get him help. He was violent and abusive. He’d committed numerous crimes but kept getting out. One day he got a gallon bucket, filled it with gasoline and walked into a crowded supermarket. He slung the gas over the waiting queues and lit it. If I recall about 20 people eventually died of their burns and I don’t know how many were scarred. Finally, they put Billy away.

His family had significant documentation showing he should have been committed long before he killed so many people and the family had kept track of the number of visits they’d made to various agencies seeking help. There were two issues; the liberal “it’s not the homeless’ fault” and the fact that it costs money to put people into the hospital systems.


27 posted on 07/16/2011 1:40:49 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather
There were two issues; the liberal “it’s not the homeless’ fault” and the fact that it costs money to put people into the hospital systems.

Oh, it's worse than that. Many liberals believe that the mayhem these people cause is deserved by society. They actually enjoy seeing the pain and destruction that insane homeless people inflict on the innocent.

28 posted on 07/16/2011 1:44:30 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Grunthor

Hawaii is one of the few places in the US where being homeless isn’t all that tragic.

There is potable water and showers at all the beaches; mango trees are fairly plentiful; a considerable amount of tourism where some offering of manual labor is marginably compensated, and the moderate tropical climate allows year-round living outdoors. No worries about freezing to death or suffering from heat exhaustion.

With a little imagination, fishing isn’t that infeasible from nearby the shores.

On the other hand, if you are homeless and jobless in Hawaii, it’s alot more costly to make it out of the area without becoming a stowaway.

If the woman has a problem with hygiene, it isn’t due to lack or nonavailability of facilities. Every beach has public showers, accessible even at night, and the ocean swim in waste deep waters is also very accessible, then a rinse in the shower, even wearing clothes.


29 posted on 07/16/2011 1:48:42 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Gen.Blather

Well when I was a kid there were homeless, they were called hobos or bums. We lived by a large field that train tracks ran through. They used to camp out in the field at night. Our parents told us ‘stay away’ but when they were not looking we would go out there. They were all very nice to us and would even offer us beans from their pot.
Couldn’t do that today.


30 posted on 07/16/2011 1:52:56 PM PDT by sheana
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To: Steely Tom

“Oh, it’s worse than that. Many liberals believe that the mayhem these people cause is deserved by society. They actually enjoy seeing the pain and destruction that insane homeless people inflict on the innocent.”

A liberal group operates a homeless shelter in the middle of the capital city; three blocks from the capital building. This shelter brings the homeless like a bird feeder brings birds. It’s only open at night, so during the day the homeless go in search of drugs, money, food and whatever they can steal. I’d venture to say 70-80% of the downtown crime is caused by the homeless. Several times the city has offered to supply a huge, modern building, acreage, amenities and numerous incentives to move the shelter to a rural area. The shelter owners have said, “We want it downtown where the homeless are in everybody’s faces every day. We want the homeless problem solved once and for all.”

First, the people behind this live mostly in gated communities. Second, the homeless problem is not something that can be solved. They’re homeless because they (mostly) have severe mental issues; drug and alcohol abuse being top symptoms. Personally, if I were the prosecutor, I’d be looking for ways to make the people running the shelter accessories to the crimes they’re enabling. But, the prosecutor who has been in office over 40 years is a liberal.


31 posted on 07/16/2011 1:55:50 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: submarinerswife

Why are you picking on Atlanta? This person could have been educated almost anywhere in the U.S. Besides, this took place in Hawaii.


32 posted on 07/16/2011 1:56:21 PM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: submarinerswife
Atlanta public school education victim.

No, Hawaiian semi-pidgin. Nothing to do with ebonics.

33 posted on 07/16/2011 1:57:31 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Gen.Blather
When I was a kid in the ‘60’s there were no homeless. You could go anywhere downtown and not be bothered. Then, the ACLU sued during the Carter administration and forced all people being held in mental institutions without their consent to be released; instant homeless problem.

The law the ACLU was using was a John F. Kennedy law emptying the mental institutions.

34 posted on 07/16/2011 2:02:19 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" becomes New York Times, best seller.)
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To: submarinerswife

LOL, good one.


35 posted on 07/16/2011 2:04:05 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" becomes New York Times, best seller.)
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To: Cheetahcat

Thanks for the laugh.


36 posted on 07/16/2011 2:05:59 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: Gen.Blather

Good heavens, where do you live????
They relieve themselves in the corners? Does the library not have bathrooms?
I don’t understand.


37 posted on 07/16/2011 2:15:07 PM PDT by Conservaliberty (Ancient Chinese Curse: "May you live in interesting times....and may you always get what you want.")
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To: submarinerswife

LOL. Sounds more like “no tickee, no laundry”


38 posted on 07/16/2011 2:22:19 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Grunthor

I had a boss many years ago who grew up in St. Louis. He said in the late 40s and 50 the police beat patrols would whack the bums sleeping in doorways across the soles of their feet with nightsticks to keep them moving and head for the “outskirts.” That tended to solve the problem, too. Civil society was MUCH more civil in that era. Now the public square in many parts of the nation is a true cesspool.


40 posted on 07/16/2011 2:26:54 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Conservaliberty

“They relieve themselves in the corners? Does the library not have bathrooms?
I don’t understand.”

Tallahassee. This isn’t a bathroom problem, it’s a mental issue. Last time I was in Tampa the ground floor of the downtown library had become a homeless center. The remote corners stunk of urine. That was 30 years ago and I’ve never been back to an in-town library since: except for a quick run-through in Tallahassee. I decided I’d never go back there either.

When I was in the Smithsonian several years ago, I told a guard that a homeless person was peeing on one of the cases. He rolled his eyes and told me; “Unless I see it myself I can’t throw them out. Even if I do, they just come back in. We can’t throw them out until we close. This is a public building and they’re the public. That’s the law.”


41 posted on 07/16/2011 2:27:14 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: doorgunner69

That’s what I thought. Lots of Hawaiians talk like that. Usually the compassionate liberal reporter “cleans up” the quote so it appears as though the speaker is using the King’s English. Notice how you NEVER see a news report that accurately transcribes how Obama really speaks? There’s never a “ah, ah ah...let me be ah clear...ah...the republicans are... ah going to take your social security...ah... away.”


42 posted on 07/16/2011 2:31:11 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: murron

>If I had to be homeless somewhere, Hawaii wouldn’t be so bad. I love the beach and could sleep on the beach every night of the year.<

Then you’ll love it here in Santa Monica, CA..


43 posted on 07/16/2011 2:45:50 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: Gen.Blather

>The main public library downtown has a full-time armed police guard who patrols every corner of all four floors continuously. There have been rapes, muggings and all manner of assaults. They can’t kick the homeless out until the library closes. The librarians told me they won’t go into some areas without the cop. The homeless pee and poop in the corners. This problem mostly exists because there’s a homeless shelter a block away.<

Which library? Our Central library in L.A. is like that. The architecture is comparable to NY’s. When it opens at 10 am, you will find the security guards walking to each of the 9 floors and waking up the bums at 11 am. They take over the couches, the cubicles etc..

It’s a couple of blocks away from Skid Row but located in the financial district. And people will think of me as racist when I say this, they’re all black. Not even mexican..


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45 posted on 07/16/2011 3:16:44 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: max americana

“Which library? Our Central library in L.A. is like that.”
The only two downtown libraries I’m familiar with are in Tallahassee and Tampa. I don’t go to either because of the homeless. Actually, I’m beginning to think it’s time to get rid of libraries. We live in the information age. I can either buy the book I want for next to nothing on Amazon.com or just download the factoid I need. Is it worth paying the library’s operating costs and the pension costs? I think not as libraries have become babysitting services and hostels for the homeless; neither of which taxpayers should pay for. Actually, I think we could get rid of 50-90% of government and we’d all be better off.


46 posted on 07/16/2011 3:24:16 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: ken5050
and there is this large street lady, squatting and taking a DUMP between two parked cars...

Yes folks, it WAS that bad..till Rudy cleaned it up. We forget..

I'd vote for Rudy for a job of cleaning poop from between parked cars but not for POTUS.

47 posted on 07/16/2011 3:53:20 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (I not only know nothing, I don't even suspect anything.)
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To: Rocky
Why are you picking on Atlanta?

It's fashionable among some to look down their noses at anything southern, Atlanta is southern.......

48 posted on 07/16/2011 3:58:42 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (I not only know nothing, I don't even suspect anything.)
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To: max americana

Maybe I’ll just become a gypsy and live on different beaches all over the country.


49 posted on 07/16/2011 8:10:24 PM PDT by murron (Proud Mom of a Marine Vet)
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To: donhunt
Is this woman your mother-in-law or something?

Yes.

50 posted on 07/17/2011 1:47:05 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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