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Was John F. Kennedy the flat-out absolute worst U.S. president of the 20th century?
Foreign Policy ^ | 07/15/2011 | Thomas Ricks

Posted on 07/17/2011 5:32:01 PM PDT by izzatzo

As I studied the Vietnam war over the last 14 months, I began to think that John F. Kennedy probably was the worst American president of the previous century.

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The truth will out--eventually.
1 posted on 07/17/2011 5:32:12 PM PDT by izzatzo
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To: izzatzo

But, let’s not totally disregard Jimmah Carter.


2 posted on 07/17/2011 5:33:26 PM PDT by izzatzo (Palin2012, she's one of us.)
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To: izzatzo

You mean worse than Carter?
The only president in history worse than Carter is Obama.


3 posted on 07/17/2011 5:34:10 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (2012 is the opportunity to get rid of Obama and his Empire of Lies.)
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To: izzatzo

He was not a good president but he was better than LBJ, Carter, and of course Obama. He wasn’t that much worse than the Bushes.


4 posted on 07/17/2011 5:34:20 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: yarddog
At least he was not an America-hating a-hole who went around the world apologizing for the existence of the US.
5 posted on 07/17/2011 5:35:37 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: izzatzo

The twentieth century had more than it’s share of bad Presidents.


6 posted on 07/17/2011 5:36:51 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: izzatzo

“But, let’s not totally disregard Jimmah Carter.”

Nor Woodrow Wilsom

Nor FDR

Nor LBJ

Nor Bill Clinton

Tough, tough bracket to win. I don’t think JFK wins this bracket at all.


7 posted on 07/17/2011 5:37:21 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: izzatzo

LBJ, Carter and Wilson were all a good deal worse, IMHO


8 posted on 07/17/2011 5:38:31 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing an idiot)
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To: izzatzo
the worst American president of the previous century

No, that "honor" goes to Woodrow Wilson.

Income taxes, the Fed, and WWI-the progressive trifecta that gave rise to FDR, LBJ, eugenics, and all the rest.

9 posted on 07/17/2011 5:38:40 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: izzatzo

I’ve been of the opinion that if JFK was still alive, he’s be a Republican by now.

Or else, the democrats would not have become communists.


10 posted on 07/17/2011 5:39:56 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: izzatzo

My vote is for that sanctimonious racist, Woodrow Wilson. We tend to forget how much of a mess he made in the close of WW1. First trying to get all of the ‘tribes’ into their own countries and then allowed the British and especially the French to totally eviscerate Germany to the point of preparing the ground for Hitler and WW2. He did a pretty good job on the US too until his stroke and absent presidency.


11 posted on 07/17/2011 5:40:02 PM PDT by SES1066 (1776 to 2011, 235 years and counting in the GRAND EXPERIMENT!)
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To: izzatzo

JFK was to the right of today’s Republican Party. If he’d succeeded in putting us back on the gold standard, we wouldn’t be where we are today - a dying and bankrupt economy. But the Progressives would never have allowed that!


12 posted on 07/17/2011 5:40:36 PM PDT by Paperdoll (NO MORE BUSHS!)
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To: izzatzo

Only if you don’t consider Wilson, FDR, Carter, Johnson and Truman.
Then yes, definitly yes, the worst!


13 posted on 07/17/2011 5:41:30 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: izzatzo

My father always said that JFK’s greatest “accomplishment” was getting assassinated. If he would have survived and completed two terms, (assuming he got reelected) he would be remembered similarly to how Johnson is remembered, that is to say a below average to average president.


14 posted on 07/17/2011 5:42:39 PM PDT by apillar
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To: yarddog

Oh, I forgot Clinton. Always among the worst no matter what the company.


15 posted on 07/17/2011 5:42:44 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: izzatzo

Hey my history professor back in 1981 thought Kennedy was the worst.


16 posted on 07/17/2011 5:43:31 PM PDT by republicangel
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To: izzatzo
One of the first things JFK did upon taking office was to authorize the use of herbicides in SE Asia. Dec. 1961. Op Ranch Hand began a month later. Formerly known as Op Hades.

Was it a good thing? A bad thing? An evil thing?

Folks from New Foundland to Korea to Vietnam/Laos would like to know. As well as 2.6 million VN vets (or what's left of us).

17 posted on 07/17/2011 5:43:31 PM PDT by donozark (Never loan money to a preacher...)
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To: izzatzo

The worst president of the last century was unquestionably Woodrow Wilson. If you’re going to pick one worse than all the rest you pretty much have to count bodies. I believe if Wilson had not given the British assurances in 1916 there would have been a negotiated end to WWI. Then there would have been no WWII, no Soviet Union, and no Mao Tse Tung.


18 posted on 07/17/2011 5:43:52 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: izzatzo

I do know, and have posted, that the most damaging Presidency in our history was JFK’s, if he had lost to Eisenhower’s Vice President, then this would be a completely, different nation, the 60s and Vietnam, immigration, Johnson, and much, much, more would never have happened.


19 posted on 07/17/2011 5:47:15 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
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To: izzatzo

Most over rated president


20 posted on 07/17/2011 5:47:58 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: yarddog
Concur, but give FDR an honorable mention.
21 posted on 07/17/2011 5:48:19 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: izzatzo

The crabs in Kennedy’s underwear were a better president than Carter.


22 posted on 07/17/2011 5:48:59 PM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I’ve been of the opinion that if JFK was still alive, he’s be a Republican by now.

Me, too. In many ways he was as conservative as today's RINOs, if not more so.

Didn't JFK and RFK think MLK was a communist.

I didn't like RFK.

23 posted on 07/17/2011 5:54:05 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: izzatzo

For my 50 plus years it would be Carter for my memories.


24 posted on 07/17/2011 5:55:30 PM PDT by badpacifist (All species have subspecies... in some species the subspecies appears to be the dominate one.)
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To: izzatzo

JFK cut the tax rates which elevates him above most 20th Century Democrat Presidents. Jimmah Carter was the worst in the second half of the 20th Century and a candidate for the most incompetent/clueless of all time, until the current occupant. Wilson, FDR ... now we’re talking “worst” of the 20th century.


25 posted on 07/17/2011 5:55:32 PM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: Psalm 144
That's what I was going to say also. Lots of competition for that title.

But then reality stepped in, 0 wins hands down.

26 posted on 07/17/2011 5:55:49 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: izzatzo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna_summit

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Crisis_of_1961

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_Missile_Crisis

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1963_South_Vietnamese_coup

His presidency was one foreign policy catastrophe after another. But you’re not allowed to criticize him since he got his head blown off after just 3 years.


27 posted on 07/17/2011 5:57:37 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: SES1066
My vote is for that sanctimonious racist, Woodrow Wilson.

I consider Woodrow Wilson to be one of the two Presidents who injected the greatest quantity of slow-acting poisons into the political bloodstream of the United States of America. Unlike his competition for the "worst," Wilson was something of a proto-Obama insofar as absolutely nothing he did by design or accident was actually beneficial to the US.

JFK doesn't even come close to being the worst; moreover, he is now only runner-up in the category of "Most Media Sycophants."

Mr. niteowl77

28 posted on 07/17/2011 5:58:11 PM PDT by niteowl77 ("Born in a well? Let me see that birth certificate again!")
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To: izzatzo

The worst?
Next to 0bammy, Carter and Johnson? Not even close.
0 is gonna really reset the standard for worst presidents.


29 posted on 07/17/2011 5:58:25 PM PDT by sillsfan (Reagan and Sarah are right- WE win, they lose!)
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To: izzatzo

Gee, the Washington Post hates JFK like they do Republicans.

The Wapo is universally wrong anyhow.


30 posted on 07/17/2011 5:59:07 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: izzatzo

The term “worst” is ambiguous. Does one mean the most corrupt, then of course LBJ; does one mean an inept administrator, then of course Carter; Kennedy was an average individual who was totally created by the media. Kennedy was probably the first president in history to have the honor of being an absolute creation.


31 posted on 07/17/2011 5:59:59 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: izzatzo

Jimmah Cawtuh was just a hayseed doofus, but FDR and Wilson did massive damage to the economy. I’d put Kennedy way down the list.


32 posted on 07/17/2011 6:00:35 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Waco

The JFK Presidency, is what killed America.


34 posted on 07/17/2011 6:03:02 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
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To: izzatzo

Keep reading.

There’s little disagreement that Warren G. Harding, President of the United States from 1921-23, was the worst president of all.


35 posted on 07/17/2011 6:03:17 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: lonestar

Yep, JFK would have been thrown out of the Democrat Party if he was alive today...he definitely was far more conservative than most Republicans in D.C. right now....I read a book on JFK and Nixon and it talk about that both of them were not that far apart on issues or thinking and both were FRIENDS!

Joe Kennedy even donated $1,000 to Nixons Senatorial campaign

JFK said once that he describing himself as a “fighting conservative”


36 posted on 07/17/2011 6:07:56 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Paperdoll; Army Air Corps

“However, if there is one man who can take the most credit for the 1965 act, it is John F. Kennedy. Kennedy seems to have inherited the resentment his father Joseph felt as an outsider in Boston’s WASP aristocracy. He voted against the McCarran-Walter Act of 1952, and supported various refugee acts throughout the 1950s. In 1958 he wrote a book, A Nation of Immigrants, which attacked the quota system as illogical and without purpose, and the book served as Kennedy’s blueprint for immigration reform after he became president in 1960. In the summer of 1963, Kennedy sent Congress a proposal calling for the elimination of the national origins quota system. He wanted immigrants admitted on the basis of family reunification and needed skills, without regard to national origin. After his assassination in November, his brother Robert took up the cause of immigration reform, calling it JFK’s legacy. In the forward to a revised edition of A Nation of Immigrants, issued in 1964 to gain support for the new law, he wrote, “I know of no cause which President Kennedy championed more warmly than the improvement of our immigration policies.” Sold as a memorial to JFK, there was very little opposition to what became known as the Immigration Act of 1965.”


37 posted on 07/17/2011 6:08:45 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
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To: izzatzo

No. Actually, JFK might’ve been the best Democrat President since the 19th century.

Obama, worse
Clinton, worse
Carter, worse
LBJ, worse
Truman, worse
FDR, worse
Wilson, worse


38 posted on 07/17/2011 6:11:15 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: izzatzo
We have the gay Jesuit priest Tom Dooley to thank for bringing Vietnam to JFK's attention.

We also have Tom Dooley to thank for JFK's creation of the Peace Corps.

39 posted on 07/17/2011 6:11:15 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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To: izzatzo

And let’s not forget it was JFK that unionized Federal employees.


40 posted on 07/17/2011 6:12:05 PM PDT by bushbuddy
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To: donozark
One of the first things JFK did upon taking office was to

Let us not forget The Bay of Pigs.

41 posted on 07/17/2011 6:12:26 PM PDT by itsahoot (--I will vote for Sarah Palin, even if I have to write her in. --He that hath an ear, let him hear.)
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To: bigbob

Wilson, FDR, LBJ really really expanded the Fed Gov, JFK not so much, and he did do the United States Notes.


42 posted on 07/17/2011 6:14:04 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: sillsfan
0 is gonna really reset the standard for worst presidents.

He may actually be the last president, if the people of this country don't wake up.

43 posted on 07/17/2011 6:16:02 PM PDT by itsahoot (--I will vote for Sarah Palin, even if I have to write her in. --He that hath an ear, let him hear.)
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To: truthfreedom; bushbuddy; bigbob

“In 1962, President John F. Kennedy signed Executive Order 10988. This order permitted federal workers to engage in collective bargaining and opened the door for states and cities to do the same. In my opinion, it is the biggest single act that has led America to our current financial nightmare. Why? I agree with the Roosevelts.

President Teddy Roosevelt vehemently opposed such a decision and extended policies prohibiting federal union workers from even talking to Congress. In 1902, he issued Executive Order 163 prohibiting union workers from,”individually or through associations, [soliciting] an increase of pay, or to influence or to attempt to influence in their own interest any legislation whatever, either before Congress or its Committees, or in any way save through the heads of the Departments in or under which they serve, on penalty of dismissal from the government service.” He twice issued Executive Orders expanding the restrictions on collective bargaining for federal workers.

Even President Franklin Delano Roosevelt said allowing government employees to organize and strike against the taxpayers was “unthinkable and intolerable.” In 1955, George Meany (what a great name for a union leader), President of the AFL-CIO said, “It is impossible to collectively bargain with the government.” When you permit weak, self-interested, voter-loving politicians and self-interested, dues-loving labor leaders in the same room with taxpayers’ money, only bad things will happen.”


44 posted on 07/17/2011 6:16:58 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Yup, Wilson, and for those reasons. Tack on Prohibition and the first Federal Drug Laws. But you got the big 3.


45 posted on 07/17/2011 6:17:31 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: izzatzo

Worst Dems in my lifetime....
Obama, Carter, LBJ, Clinton and a distant last JFK. Who knows how Vietnam war would have ended if JFK lived for another term.


46 posted on 07/17/2011 6:19:30 PM PDT by tflabo ( to have been selected)
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To: steelyourfaith

I agree. Wilson and FDR battle for the top two slots in the “Worst Presidents of the 20th Century” list.


47 posted on 07/17/2011 6:21:04 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: apillar

Someone recently told me JFK was assassinated by the powers that be because he was getting ready to mint gold coins to use as legal tender. Just sayin...


48 posted on 07/17/2011 6:21:21 PM PDT by Rennes Templar
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To: truthfreedom; rabscuttle385

You guys are naming things that you don’t like and that were bad, but that could be changed, JFK actually destroyed the nation, and made it to where we can never recover.

JFK’s presidency actually destroyed the nation.


49 posted on 07/17/2011 6:23:33 PM PDT by ansel12 ( Bristol Palin's book "Not Afraid Of Life: My Journey So Far" became a New York Times, best seller.)
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To: izzatzo

No that would be Woodrow Wilson. Then FDR. Followed by LBJ. Then BHO. Then Jimmy Carter. Then Hubert Hoover. Then JFK.


50 posted on 07/17/2011 6:24:17 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (I have no time to worry about turbot, a parrot is eating my house)
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