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Rick Santorum picks a fight with Michele Bachmann [over debt limit]
Politico ^ | July 18, 2011 | Alexander Burns

Posted on 07/18/2011 6:11:54 PM PDT by ejdrapes

Rick Santorum picks a fight with Michele Bachmann
By ALEXANDER BURNS | 7/18/11 6:25 PM EDT

The former Pennsylvania senator is trying to start something, Dan Hirschhorn reports:

Rick Santorum isn't impressed with Michele Bachmann's debt ceiling theatrics, telling POLITICO that the tea party firebrand is "playing politics instead of providing real leadership in the debt limit debate."

"We have the President of the United States scaring seniors by saying they might not receive their Social Security checks. We have Minority Leader Mitch McConnell wanting to cede authority to the President, and we have Michele Bachmann playing politics instead of providing real leadership in the debt limit debate," Santorum said in a statement. "I think America has seen enough grandstanding and political posturing in Washington. Since 1990, the debt limit has been raised a total of $10.1 trillion, but nearly half of that increase has occurred since September 2007. This is a serious issue and the American people deserve it to be handled that way."

It's the first time Santorum has gone directly at Bachmann, who's already taking away from the base of Iowa social conservatives that Santorum had hoped to capture when Mike Huckabee exited the race.

The only substantive difference between Santorum and Bachmann on the debt limit issue is that Bachmann wants a complete repeal of "Obamacare" before an increase, while Santorum hasn't gone that far. He's been consistent in saying that dollar-for-dollar spending cuts and a balanced budget amendment, as laid out in the Cut, Cap, Balance" pledge would be enough. Bachmann signed the pledge at a news conference today, but wrote in her own additional line about a full health care repeal.



TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Minnesota; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2012; bachmann; michelebachmann; minnesota; mitchmcconnell; obamacare; pennsylvania; politico; ricksantorum; santorum; whinywhinyloser
So unless you support some deal you're playing politics? So does that mean the millions of Americans who do not want to see the debt ceiling increased under any circumstances are also playing politics? My fear is there will be strings attached to the cut, cap and balance vote. That Boehner will expect support for some compromise in return for allowing a vote on cut, cap and balance. I agree with Mark Levin. We need to hold the GOP accountable for EVERY vote.
1 posted on 07/18/2011 6:11:57 PM PDT by ejdrapes
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To: ejdrapes

Sayeth Santorum from the sidelines.


2 posted on 07/18/2011 6:14:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: ejdrapes

Santorum talks to Politico? WTF? Why would a conservative EVER respond to a question from Politico, a left wing rag that exists only to smear conservatives. Have Palin, Bachmann, Cain or Perry ever responded to a question from Politico?


3 posted on 07/18/2011 6:16:00 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (SP12: They called Reagan "unelectable", too.)
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To: All
Bachmann signs ‘Cut, Cap, and Balance’ pledge, adds promise to defund Obamacare

The same Monday President Obama promised he will veto a balanced budget amendment, presidential candidate Michele Bachmann signed the “Cut, Cap, and Balance” pledge during a campaign stop in Columbia, S.C.

“The principles found in this Pledge are a historic step in the right direction toward the fundamental restructuring we need in the way Washington spends taxpayer dollars,” Bachmann said.

Along with her support for the initiative Bachmann added her own personal line to the pledge: the repeal and defunding of Obamacare.

“In signing the Pledge, I am adding a line; I also pledge that along with cutting spending, putting in place enforceable spending caps, and passing a balanced budget amendment, we must repeal and defund Obamacare,” Bachmann said.

“Obamacare is the largest spending and entitlement program in our nation’s history,” she added. “Without its repeal, we cannot have real economic reform.”

Bachmann is the ninth Republican presidential candidate to sign the pledge.

4 posted on 07/18/2011 6:16:43 PM PDT by ejdrapes (Can we keep our attacks focused on the real enemy: Obama)
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To: ejdrapes
Little Ricky Santorum truly believes he is smarter than all the other kids. I've seen that behavior up close.

But here's the thing: He's one of the most insecure individuals ever to grace the capital steps.

Off with you now, Little Ricky.

5 posted on 07/18/2011 6:20:00 PM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
Santorum talks to Politico? WTF? Why would a conservative EVER respond to a question from Politico

I'm beginning to lose a lot of respect for Santorum. Everything Bachmann has said is appropriate considering what Obambi has done to our nation. But to grant interviews to a libtard rag is very bad judgement.

6 posted on 07/18/2011 6:20:54 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: ejdrapes
Machts nichts. Nobody cares what Rick Specter Santorum says or thinks.
7 posted on 07/18/2011 6:21:21 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: ejdrapes

RINO vs Conservative Republican! Film at 11...


8 posted on 07/18/2011 6:25:58 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: hinckley buzzard

I thought he was going to be a breath of fresh air but he was just another tool for the GOP RINO machine here in PA,
one who was pro-life but otherwise very much the insider.

I remember him on Fox News last year praising the idea of a Lisa Murkowski win over Tea Party GOP candidate Joe Miller.

Santorum flew out to Alaska in 2004 to twist arms for Lisa in the GOP Primary.


9 posted on 07/18/2011 6:26:02 PM PDT by Nextrush (President Sarah Palin sounds just right to me)
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To: ejdrapes

I simply disagree with a balanced budget amendment. It will result in a California mentality of.. oops we are out of money so we must increase taxes, by law. It does not work.


10 posted on 07/18/2011 6:26:02 PM PDT by momincombatboots (Look out Left Coast, we are coming and we have Bibles and Guns! LOL)
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To: laweeks

He’s just feeding the media narrative that Bachmann tilts at windmills. I even heard Bill O’Reilly bitch about Bachmann wanting defunding of Obamacare added to the cut, cap and balance pledge because he said it would never happen. Well we know cut, cap and balance is DOA in the senate and even if it did pass Obama would veto it. So should we abandon that too?


11 posted on 07/18/2011 6:26:47 PM PDT by ejdrapes (Can we keep our attacks focused on the real enemy: Obama)
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To: ejdrapes

(Scratches Santorum off the list...) Attack Obama, not your fellow republicans, you’re toast!


12 posted on 07/18/2011 6:28:14 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: ejdrapes

Santorum’s trying to break out of the 1-2% bracket.

I predict he’ll only go down further.


13 posted on 07/18/2011 6:30:27 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: momincombatboots

I think the BBA being pushed includes spending caps and a 2/3 majority to raise taxes.


14 posted on 07/18/2011 6:32:16 PM PDT by ejdrapes (Can we keep our attacks focused on the real enemy: Obama)
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To: ejdrapes

We all know that Obamacare must go. At present we only control,at best,one-third of the debate/budget process.

In the last week Zero has used his mainstream media pals to spin, twist, lie, distort, plus you name it to bump up his standing. Obamacare was passed because the left had all three branches of Gov. The more plans that Reps put out there-the more confused the average Joe gets.

It is Obama’s job to put the damn budget plan out. That is what should be demanded now and it must be in writing. 800 plus days and no budget.


15 posted on 07/18/2011 6:34:48 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: ejdrapes
The only substantive difference between Santorum and Bachmann on the debt limit issue is that Bachmann wants a complete repeal of "Obamacare" before an increase, while Santorum hasn't gone that far.

I'm with Michele. It's inexcusable that after 8 months the house still hasn't passed a repeal of O-care. I don't care if it would die in the Senate, or Obama would veto it. Attach it to every spending bill except for Defense and let them kill it. As for McConnell, that turncoat rat bastard needs to be replaced as minority leader now. He is embodies everything wrong with the RINO class. I predeicted in November he would sell us out, and I am unfortunately right again.

16 posted on 07/18/2011 6:36:10 PM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: ejdrapes

Accusing her publicly of playing politics is playing politics.


17 posted on 07/18/2011 6:39:12 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: momincombatboots
It will result in a California mentality of.. oops we are out of money so we must increase taxes, by law. It does not work.

There is no such law in CA. The RATS can pass whatever budget and spending bills they want by a simple majority, but they still need a 2/3 vote (two pubs) in both houses and the governors signature, or voter approval to raise taxes. So their spening bills don't mean jack if they run out of money to pay for them.

18 posted on 07/18/2011 6:41:30 PM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: ejdrapes

Anyone besides me notice how the republican so easily attack the girls but never a harsh word for Mitt. Ricky, Timmy, Rudy, Karl, yada yada

Something defiantly wrong with boys in this party. They are catching metrosexual disease or something


19 posted on 07/18/2011 6:50:09 PM PDT by Breto (never accept the premise)
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To: ejdrapes

I have repeatedly posted that Santorum is a RINO who voted for Amtrak Pork, subsidizing ethanol (clearly to prevent Global Warming), and flip-flopped on abortion in 1990. His hid his true position on abortion for political purposes. He wants to disallow it only if it is proven that the baby is radiating brain waves. He also supported Arlen Specter.


20 posted on 07/18/2011 6:51:40 PM PDT by JimWayne
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To: Breto

Good observation. My take is that RINO Santorum is positioning himself to be the VP candidate if Mitt Romney gets the nomination. Then many FReepers will advise us how we should all go along with Mitt Romney for the sake of the real conservative Santorum (who voted for ethanol, once supported abortion, voted for amtrak pork and supported Arlen Specter).


21 posted on 07/18/2011 6:54:02 PM PDT by JimWayne
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To: ejdrapes

Has anyone ever counted up how many different Repuke positions there are on this phony baloney debt “ceiling” issue?

And this was SUCH an easy one.

Just vote No on raising the Obo’s credit limit and the spending then reduces.

And if he still keeps printing funny money, impeach his sorry butt.

When will the Repukes take a single, sensible position and hold to it???

(Yeah, I know. NEVER.)


22 posted on 07/18/2011 6:59:38 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: ejdrapes
A balanced budget amendment isn't going to get it done it will take years to get the states to pass it.I propose that since spending must originate in the house that each department be reviewed for cuts for example the department of Education 20% cut every year for 5 years,NPR/PBS 50% cuts for 2 years.I think if we have politicians who actually will put their balls on the table we can defund big government in a hurry.I would also tell the democrats and rinos that if we really,really need revenue that badly it's time to start taxing the so called poor,it's theft when only 45% of the population are paying all the taxes pulling the other 55% in the free loader wagon.
23 posted on 07/18/2011 7:01:32 PM PDT by bonehead4freedom
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To: ejdrapes
santorum is not a conservative... and his own words prove that. He only attacked Bachmann because it got him in the news cycle... and that is about the only thing that ever would. He and michael steele are good friends... and they co hosted Bill Bennett's Morning in America Radio show. They both said (after obama won) that the “Era of Reagan is indeed over”... that “he electorate had moved in a more progressive direction... that the party must embrace more diversity with an open tent and move closer to the position of the electorate”.

That is in no way a Conservative thought or wordage. I am not a big Bachmann supporter but this is just total BS. santorum is a phony and this attack is as phony as he himself is.

LLS

24 posted on 07/18/2011 7:06:50 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"! I choose LIBERTY and PALIN!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

And what exactly does he mean when he says she’s playing politics? I would assume most of the grass roots republicans/tea party types are against raising the debt ceiling. How is supporting their position playing politics?


25 posted on 07/18/2011 7:17:51 PM PDT by ejdrapes (Can we keep our attacks focused on the real enemy: Obama)
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To: Breto

” Anyone besides me notice how the republican so easily attack the girls but never a harsh word for Mitt. Ricky, Timmy, Rudy, Karl, yada yada.
Something defiantly wrong with boys in this party. They are catching metrosexual disease or something. “ <<<

Let me offer up to expect more of the same, soon, thanks to the all girl, all the time, public school curriculum, with sweaty recesses long ago dumped in exchange for Ritalin meds for the boys. Feminists are after the boys and have so far won hands down. Maybe the guys are angry at the all girls promotion going on in every tier of the culture. They have taken over all the formitive institutions; the schools, the churches, and are fast working over the military.


26 posted on 07/18/2011 7:20:13 PM PDT by RitaOK (We hang together or will hang separately. 2012, or bust)
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To: laweeks

Indeed. I have no clue what he was thinking.


27 posted on 07/18/2011 7:26:05 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (SP12: They called Reagan "unelectable", too.)
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To: ejdrapes

Oops. Santorum just stepped in it.

Not really surprising. His ATU rating is atrocious.

The House pubbies need to hold the line on debt ceiling negotiations. Anything less than big cuts in discretionary spending effective immediately doesn’t do us any good fiscally. If we can get Obama to sign-off on some cuts, we can revisit entitlement reform and repealing or defunding Obamacare in 2013. If we try that now, he’ll just veto til til we kick him out of office.


28 posted on 07/18/2011 7:28:36 PM PDT by CowboyJay
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To: Nextrush

You got that right. He lost to Bob Casey by 20 points. 20 points!!! He’s a holier-than-thou hypocrite RINO. Yeah, let me rush right out and vote for that guy. This debt debacle will really narrow the field of GOP contenders. I predict any type of business as usual GOP nominee will lose to Obama.


29 posted on 07/18/2011 7:36:56 PM PDT by Big E
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To: PaleoBob

Does it seem to anybody else that there is kind of a disconnect between the leadership and the membership in the House? And tension between the Senate and the House? And a bit of a patronizing attitude by the Senators toward the House? It appears to me there just is NO party unity.


30 posted on 07/18/2011 7:37:56 PM PDT by ngat
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To: ejdrapes

Sorry Ricky, your 15 minutes is up.


31 posted on 07/18/2011 7:39:56 PM PDT by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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To: ngat

Does it seem to anybody else that there is kind of a disconnect between the leadership and the membership in the House? And tension between the Senate and the House? And a bit of a patronizing attitude by the Senators toward the House? It appears to me there just is NO party unity.


The Odumbsky originally wanted a “clean vote” on the limit. So, give him a clean NO. How much leadership would that have required?

The Repuke has to be the dumbest creature on this planet.


32 posted on 07/18/2011 7:41:37 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: PaleoBob

There just seems to be no consensus on how to counter what is obviously a naked power-grab by the executive from the legislative branch of government. Are our elected house representatives incapable of writing legislation themselves? There was a time when if a senator tried to pull off what McConnell and Coburn are trying, the Speaker would have gone nuclear on them. He would have TOLD them where the bills originate.


33 posted on 07/18/2011 7:57:35 PM PDT by ngat
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To: ejdrapes

“Sanitarium” can sack it up. Ball game for him is over. He said Senator McCain knew “nothing about enhanced interrogation”. That is such a knee slapping belly laugh !!


34 posted on 07/18/2011 8:27:36 PM PDT by waltorr
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To: All; ejdrapes
Santorum is right. Michele Bachmann is AWOL.

Like Obama, she's long on talk but not put forth a plan in legislation form.

35 posted on 07/18/2011 8:37:37 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: Breto

I disagree with you. I have no use for a single one of these people. We need a businessman/woman and that man/woman is not Romney. I like Cain.


36 posted on 07/18/2011 8:40:26 PM PDT by Lumper20
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To: ejdrapes; Carry_Okie; calcowgirl; tubebender; Grampa Dave; Ernest_at_the_Beach; budwiesest; ...
From my personal perspective, this consistent stand of hers against the Democrat "sin" against the people's will of Obamacare, more than ANY other candidate, puts her in the top two of GOP candidates with Tea Party backing!!!

I'm getting tickled at the rapid increase in cheap shots and even threads about them here on FR by the minute!!!

She should take all this flack as evidence she's hovering right over the target and should open the bombay doors!!!

I agree with Mark Levin, also!!!

37 posted on 07/18/2011 9:27:12 PM PDT by SierraWasp (I'm done being disappointed by "He/She is the only one who can win" and being embarrassed later!!!)
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To: ejdrapes

Dear little rick, you do not have a snow balls chance in hell of getting elected, so take newt and go watch gaga with little Timmy.


38 posted on 07/18/2011 9:56:18 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: newzjunkey

Your candidate is not running so call off the attack dogs. Not raising the debt limit is a plan, it is telling all the different government departments you have this much to spend, get your ducks in a row.


39 posted on 07/18/2011 10:01:11 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: ejdrapes
He's been consistent in saying that dollar-for-dollar spending cuts and a balanced budget amendment, as laid out in the Cut, Cap, Balance" pledge would be enough.

It's not really 'cut, cap and balance,' it's 'tinker, obfuscate, borrow and spend.'

In the last election campaign, the Republicans pledged to reduce spending to pre-2008 levels. And now they're talking about balancing the budget somewhere over the rainbow?

If they actually did that NOW, there wouldn't be any need to raise the debt ceiling.

Any pledges from these people to do something to rein in this monster in the future are utterly worthless. And that goes for both legs of the socialist beast, the Dems and the GOP.

40 posted on 07/18/2011 10:06:31 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (It's not really 'cut, cap and balance,' it's 'tinker, obfuscate, borrow and spend.')
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To: ejdrapes
Maybe they are really fighting over who gets to have “angry sex” with degenerate Dan Savage—the sick socialist smegma stain wants them both.
41 posted on 07/18/2011 10:23:28 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("Will Geico save you 15% on your insurance? Is Obama an evil Marxist tyrannical son of a bitch?")
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To: ejdrapes
He is projecting what he is doing upon her... as all leftists do... they project that which they are and do upon others... and santorum is all about projection... just like when he defended specter.

LLS

42 posted on 07/19/2011 4:36:58 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"! I choose LIBERTY and PALIN!)
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To: Lumper20

disagree? we totally agree on a “not Romney” solution


43 posted on 07/19/2011 7:20:58 AM PDT by Breto (never accept the premise)
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To: Nextrush

I am sure he would have next hired Ed Rollins, but Bachmann beat him to it


44 posted on 07/19/2011 7:38:13 AM PDT by Friendofgeorge (DID I MENTION...SARAH PALIN OR FLIPPIN BUST)
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To: Hugin

Ok... The similarity then is th 2/3rds vote to increase spending. Is that working in ca? Either way, this GOP budget is very Californian in nature. Is that a viable model?


45 posted on 07/19/2011 9:09:57 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Look out Left Coast, we are coming and we have Bibles and Guns! LOL)
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