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Downtown L.A.: A Nightmare on Every Street (op-ed in L.A Times)
L.A. Times (really) ^ | July 17, 2911

Posted on 07/18/2011 8:15:32 PM PDT by doug from upland

Downtown Los Angeles boasts some big-city perks like spacious lofts and trendy restaurants, but living there is a different kind of beast.

By Mike Armstrong

July 17, 2011 "Look, Daddy, that man's going to the bathroom!"

No, not the words any daddy wants to hear from his 10-year-old daughter, especially during a stroll through their brand-new neighborhood.

Moving my wife and kids into a downtown Los Angeles loft may not win me "Dumbest Dad of the Year" honors, but it should at least get me into the quarterfinals. The loft itself was great. More like a movie set than an apartment. High ceilings, new appliances, breathtaking views and a deck with a Jacuzzi that was used at least once every six months during our year there. It wasn't what was inside the building that broke the deal; it was what was out there on the mean and strange streets of downtown Los Angeles.

Why we moved there is academic. More space for less money, a new environment, cool restaurants and various other meaningless enticements. I got sucked in; I was wrong, and I admit it. I've apologized to everybody involved, and I will continue to do so until I am either dead or forgiven. In the meantime, let me tell you about my downtown L.A.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: bigone; earthquake; liberalinsanity; losangeles; seeya; slideintotheocean; thanksmexico; thirdworldhellhole
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Thank you to the liberals for turning a once great city into a sanctuary city third world hellhole.
1 posted on 07/18/2011 8:15:40 PM PDT by doug from upland
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Within a week or so after our arrival, there were ominous signs that the neighborhood was still working out its kinks. There were two murders in two hotels within three blocks of our new home. What I thought were firecrackers at 4 a.m. on the Fourth of July were in fact gunshots in front of our building. And there must have been something about me that made me a target for every heroin dealer on the block, like the fact that I was breathing.


2 posted on 07/18/2011 8:17:55 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: doug from upland
I remember the 70s. Cities were rough: crime, grafitti, and burned out buildings were common. Real estate was rather cheap, because no one wanted to be in the city.

We're going back there, I guess.

Only one thing -- back in the 70s, we had decent music.

3 posted on 07/18/2011 8:19:26 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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To: doug from upland

si.


4 posted on 07/18/2011 8:20:21 PM PDT by ken21 (liberal + rino progressive media hate palin, bachman, cain...)
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To: doug from upland

The writer of this letter seems like just another selfish conservative who doesn’t want to share the wealth (his wealth). Crack-heads have to eat too. Show some compassion, brothers.


5 posted on 07/18/2011 8:21:16 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reducation Camp?)
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To: doug from upland

This moron ignored the first duty of a father: Protect your children!


6 posted on 07/18/2011 8:21:43 PM PDT by OldCorps
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To: doug from upland

Downtown LA is a sewer that comes alive at night with all sorts of dangerous freaks.

The author should consider himself lucky that he and his daughter got out of there unscathed...


7 posted on 07/18/2011 8:25:27 PM PDT by Beaten Valve
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To: doug from upland

>>Thank you to the liberals for turning a once great city into a sanctuary city third world hellhole.<<

In my entire 50 years in the L.A. area, no one ever wanted to being in downtown L.A. after the sun sets.

And I even spent time in downtown L.A. (work paid for the hotel) after the sun set and I wouldn’t venture outside.


8 posted on 07/18/2011 8:27:31 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: doug from upland
Why we moved there is academic. More space for less money, a new environment, cool restaurants and various other meaningless enticements. I got sucked in...

Let me see: A father and husband was more enticed by "cool restaurants" than by any prudent consideration of the safety of a young daughter and wife.

I don't think I could formulate a more damning indictment of the values and priorities of the "typical" liberal.

9 posted on 07/18/2011 8:27:48 PM PDT by mojito
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To: doug from upland; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; randita; calcowgirl; 'smith; Liz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBOQiMxwk1o


10 posted on 07/18/2011 8:29:10 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: doug from upland

I know the area. Actually one of my buds moved into one of those lofts on Broadway and 10th LOL.

Look, for a single dude, you can hit the bars at night..only if you go in packs. And there’s a reason why single white women always have attack dogs with them: to fend off the homeless blacks that come out at night after 10 PM. Heck, even the jews in that area near pershing square warn me that this it becomes a ghost town at night. When you are 6 blocks away from Skid Row, anything can happen. Then again, I;ve been to the dive bars around the area and the parking is a rip off. So the lesson is don’t go walking alone at night unless you own a pit bull or Rottie. I will admit, it’s a hip place during the day,,during the day.


11 posted on 07/18/2011 8:29:12 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: ClearCase_guy

>>Only one thing — back in the 70s, we had decent music. <<

You must remember the 1870s.

The fact that 1990s+ music has stunk doesn’t make 1970s music “good” (well, except the good stuff in ‘70-’73).


12 posted on 07/18/2011 8:29:28 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: doug from upland
The wonderful world of liberalism. Social garbage being reduced to animals. (Sorry, didn't mean to give animals a bad name)
13 posted on 07/18/2011 8:29:43 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: doug from upland
This is the City. Los Angeles, California, home to every thug, mug, pug, low life & pervert that are alowed to mingle with civilized humans. Calling Joe Friday. Paging Sargent Friday.
Where have you gone Joe Friday?
14 posted on 07/18/2011 8:32:49 PM PDT by Tupelo ( 2012 TEA PARTY or no party)
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To: freedumb2003

Yup. It’s like zombieland. It really is like night and day. My Jew bud has a store in the garment district and after 6, it’s like you are the only person on earth except for the LAPD cops.


15 posted on 07/18/2011 8:33:55 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: OldCorps

This moron ignored the first duty of a father: Protect your children!

Real easy, isn’t it? I think most Americans are to stupid to survive


16 posted on 07/18/2011 8:33:55 PM PDT by lookout88 (.combat officer's dad)
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To: doug from upland

Okay, what idiot doesn’t scout a neighborhood at night as well as during the day before moving in???


17 posted on 07/18/2011 8:35:12 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: doug from upland

Urban “liiving” [sic] ????

To prove his worldly creds, of course, he had to finish off his article with a meow about some intrepid street preacher attempting to bring a little godliness to that ungodly spot. Even if it was at the top of his lungs.


18 posted on 07/18/2011 8:36:52 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution)
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To: doug from upland

Casey Anthony should fit in real well in LA.


19 posted on 07/18/2011 8:37:05 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Tupelo
You don't want Joe Friday. You want Mike Hammer, with his luckies and his service 1911.
20 posted on 07/18/2011 8:38:04 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: doug from upland

These people are the product of liberalism,and there is NO cure for them.


21 posted on 07/18/2011 8:38:33 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: max americana; doug from upland

>>Yup. It’s like zombieland. It really is like night and day. My Jew bud has a store in the garment district and after 6, it’s like you are the only person on earth except for the LAPD cops.<<

There is nothing in IMDB or Wkpedia to say so, but you have to wonder whether Downtown L.A. wasn’t the inspiration for “From Dusk ‘till Dawn.”


22 posted on 07/18/2011 8:38:47 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: mojito

I agree. And Hell is a “new environment”, too.


23 posted on 07/18/2011 8:39:35 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture (Could be worst in 40 years))
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To: Beaten Valve

Yes, and plenty of illegal aliens abound!


24 posted on 07/18/2011 8:40:40 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: mojito

“Let me see: A father and husband was more enticed by “cool restaurants” than by any prudent consideration of the safety of a young daughter and wife.

I don’t think I could formulate a more damning indictment of the values and priorities of the “typical” liberal.”

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Well said.

Pathological narcicissm defines the Left.

Besides, EVERY major city has “cool” restaurants, and they might even be ...gasp....”hip”. What is the big deal?


25 posted on 07/18/2011 8:44:38 PM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: Tupelo

Joe gave up the LAPD after the weekly mandatory tolerance and diversity meetings got to be too much and they enacted a no-pursuit policy. Sargent Friday remembered the stories his old partner Ben Romero told him about Texas, and after his mother passed he moved to Gun Barrel City, Texas where he’s now Deputy Chief.


26 posted on 07/18/2011 8:44:59 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: lookout88

I know the downtown area quite well. You have to be really naive to move there thinking it’s a safe location. While it has progressively become worse (progressive being the cause and the key word), it wasn’t a safe area 20 years ago. But, it’s not just the downtown area. In the general vicinity, you have numerous options for dangerous neighborhoods.


27 posted on 07/18/2011 8:45:26 PM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: doug from upland
Petula Clark: Downtown
28 posted on 07/18/2011 8:45:48 PM PDT by TChad
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To: hinckley buzzard

Mike Hammer moved to Phoenix.


29 posted on 07/18/2011 8:46:36 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“back in the 70s, we had decent music”

Like the captain and tenile?


30 posted on 07/18/2011 8:48:10 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Freedom is the freedom to say 2+2=4. If that is granted, all else follows.)
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To: doug from upland

I am literally speechless that this moron would actually move his children downtown. And near Broadway and 7th, yet!


31 posted on 07/18/2011 8:53:04 PM PDT by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: Cheetahcat

Liberalism tends to “cure” itself over time.

In the ashes comes another round of sanity.


32 posted on 07/18/2011 8:53:12 PM PDT by DB
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To: doug from upland

I remember driving through downtown LA in 1958.

It was no better then than it is now. Less Hispanics, but just as crawling with criminality and filth as it is now.


33 posted on 07/18/2011 8:54:29 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Cheetahcat

And some of the liberal asshat comments from the story, wow what a crowd. He;s so evil for commenting on the human wasteland that is Los Angeles. And a classic comment from a liberal idiot who excoriates him, from the comfort of her 24 hour per day security condo.


34 posted on 07/18/2011 8:55:02 PM PDT by Newtoidaho (Fight organized crime. Vote out all incumbent Democrats!)
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To: Jim Noble

Like Led Zeppelin, The Who and many others...


35 posted on 07/18/2011 8:56:01 PM PDT by DB
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To: Jim Noble

“Like the captain and tenille?

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No.

Like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKueHdKJ0jg


36 posted on 07/18/2011 8:59:08 PM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: Newtoidaho

“And some of the liberal asshat comments from the story, wow what a crowd. He;s so evil for commenting on the human wasteland that is Los Angeles. And a classic comment from a liberal idiot who excoriates him, from the comfort of her 24 hour per day security condo.”

I saw that,this is going to get much worse. when the money tightens up!
Then there will be NO safe zones.


37 posted on 07/18/2011 9:00:01 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: doug from upland
I also took the subtle hints from my daughters. "Daddy, I hate living downtown. Why did you bring us here? I thought you loved us."

That's the sad part for liberal men. Even a ten-year-old child has more gonads and common sense. There was no subtle hint in her statement to you daddy-o. Girlfriend was giving it to you straight up.

As I put my daughters to bed in our new, somewhat safer and more boring neighborhood, I tell them to "Sleep tight," "Don't let the bed bugs bite," and "Not everybody who reads the Bible screams it at the top of his lungs."
It may take awhile, but I'm determined to drop that last part.

HUH??! Really? THAT anti Christian vileness is the take away? To think these are the people whose writing influences our children in papers, film, and television. Explains a lot doesn't. Never miss an opportunity to pound on either Christians or Republicans.

Never thought other influences could have carved out this hell on earth did you daddy? /rant. Glad to hear the daughter has a much safer home in which to grow up.

38 posted on 07/18/2011 9:00:26 PM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: mojito

I agree, but it says something for him that he is willing to write his mea culpa here.


39 posted on 07/18/2011 9:01:14 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: Jim Noble
The Allmen Bros., Delany and Bonnie, Clapton with Derek and The Dominos and solo, Grand Funk and Humble Pie with Frampton, Deep Purple and Slade as well as King Crimson and Yes. Yes we did have some lamos as well, but you couild always get around them.
40 posted on 07/18/2011 9:01:37 PM PDT by JimC214
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To: doug from upland

In August, 1971, a friend and I drove from Santa Cruz (then a nice quiet place) down the coast and wanted to visit L.A. Once on the the freeway, at about 75 miles an hour, we couldn’t see the off-ramp sign to LA due to the smog.

We said, “Screw it” and headed for Nevada, where the air was clean and Harry Reid hadn’t raped it yet.


41 posted on 07/18/2011 9:02:09 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: truthkeeper

Yes. I know. Liberalism seems to cause brain deadness with their brainwashing solution of BS. After jury duty I was happy to say, “goodbye.”


42 posted on 07/18/2011 9:05:12 PM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Yep. Jack Webb and his on-screen persona Joe Friday didn’t support the 2nd Amendment. Multiple episodes of Dragnet were devoted to characterizing anyone who owned a gun as being a nutcase and a danger to himself and his neighbors. “Let the police handle it.” LOL. I still liked the show however.


43 posted on 07/18/2011 9:10:08 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Is the Pantry still open on 10th and Broadway? Great place
to eat when you’re a hungry USC student.


44 posted on 07/18/2011 9:11:58 PM PDT by OregonRancher (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints)
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To: freedumb2003

Oh, the 1970s. The golden age of music. If only we had a Shaft today! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2cHkMwzOiM


45 posted on 07/18/2011 9:18:57 PM PDT by garjog
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To: doug from upland

I was born in Inglewood, CA, but I’m embarrassed to claim CA as my State of birth. With Senators like Boxer and Feinstein, and Reps. like Maxine Waters, this once great State has become America’s SHITHOLE!!


46 posted on 07/18/2011 9:24:42 PM PDT by az.b1bbomberfxr
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To: OregonRancher
Is the Pantry still open on 10th and Broadway?

Yep...still open. Pretty sure it's on 9th and Fig. Used to go there after school dances/proms/games. There's no way I'd go downtown now...and I was born & raised there.

47 posted on 07/18/2011 9:25:50 PM PDT by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: pogo101
“I agree, but it says something for him that he is willing to write his mea culpa here.”

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Complete with wholly gratuitous and abjectly ignorant slam on Christianity.

48 posted on 07/18/2011 9:32:12 PM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: doug from upland
Urban Renewal:


49 posted on 07/18/2011 9:32:55 PM PDT by garjog
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To: SatinDoll
I remember driving through downtown LA in 1958. It was no better then than it is now. Less Hispanics, but just as crawling with criminality and filth as it is now.

My Dad took my brother and I to ride on the streetcars in L.A. on the last day that they were scheduled to run. It was 1963 and we were just kids, I was 13 and my brother was 11. After parking our car, I remember watching two cops throw a guy to the ground on the sidewalk in front of us and point a gun to his head before handcuffing him. Never wanted to go back to downtown L.A. after that.

50 posted on 07/18/2011 9:33:08 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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