Posted on 07/19/2011 7:19:18 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama
I agree with you...
I have a CCW in my state....but disagree with that as well.
the constitution says all we should need to have for concealed or open carry.
time to arrest criminals who commit crimes with guns and double or triple their time at sentence time for using their guns in commiting their crime...
...leave honest gun owners alone.
This is not a federal responsibility. While I’m all for concealed carry everywhere I’m uneasy with the feds making law either for or against. It doesn’t sit well with 2A.
As an Illinoisan, I’d love to have concealed carry here, but I am very uncomfortable with setting the precedent that the federal government has the power to regulate this. Once the Dems get the House again, we’ll see a bill banning carry nationwide.
Ping
Although Illinois has no right to carry, for all intents and purposes, it’s the same thing here in California with our “may issue” law coupled with a bunch of lawless weasels for sheriff’s and chiefs of police. What is needed is for those worthless pricks in black robes collectively knows as the US Supreme Court to quit nibbling around the edges of the Second Amendment’s clear intent, and make a ruling that the 2A is what it says it is and mandate that all states allow their citizens to carry a gun if they so choose openly or concealed as is their choice. We see daily the abuse of our constitutional gun rights by LEOs who themselves abuse the right they have to carry a gun. As it stands today, I am far more fearful of being shot by a cop than I am by a citizen.
I love this guy sometimes. South Dakota is a HUGE gun rights state.
I am for either a National CCW or National Reciprocity. I travel a lot and it gets annoying only being able to carry in certain states or having to plan my trip according to reciprocity.
As long as we have the government background check to buy guns, they already have a list of us.
I disagree. This is one of the few numerated responsibilities of the federal government. Specifically Article IV Section 1, the Full Faith and Credit clause:
Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.
(Emphasis added.)
“...shall not be infringed.”
Arrest for a paperwork violation infringes.
I don’t want the Feds anywhere near this. Thune, quit your political posturing. This bill is going nowhere, so stop wasting your time. The senate has more important things to do than this.
Interesting observation. While the 2ndA is a prohibition against such regulation (see prior post), insofar as the infringement occurs it may be regulated for uniformity.
Instead of working on this law, I'd rather that true conservative politicians would work toward National Constitutional Carry...no license/permission required.
I share you concern that this could backfire on gun owners. Maybe us Illinoisians should get our act together and get rid of the RATS running our government rather than have to depend on the feds.
Bkmk.
“I would prefer National Reciprocity if we have to have anything.”
1,000,000% agree!!!
No I don’t believe it is ok, but sadly they already do in several different ways.
I would love a national constitutional carry, but I don’t see it happening anytime soon, not unless we get a lot of people voted out of office.
However, next time I see John Thune (he’s a friend of my uncle’s and my cousin works for him) I will be sure to tell him that a Constitutional carry is a better idea.
Stop trying to make peace with the opposition by tossing them bones.
I guarantee you the sop you offer will be used to crucify those who make minor infractions, but do so while in possession of a gun.
Thune's idea leaves us wide open to the Small Arms Treaty.
Not sure if you were being sarcastic or not but I'd appreciate that! I think we MUST change out conversations with politicians regarding our RIGHTS in regard to guns. They all have forgotten that they are our employees not our bosses.
Concealed Carry Nationally ? Why not just pass a national law that any non felon convict can conceal carry anywhere in the USA or its territories, if they have a state right to do so, as a matter of second amendment rights. That would work.
I do not think the feds need to occupy this permitting process field.
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