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Gang of Six, back from the brink?
Politico ^ | 07/09/11 | Manu Raju

Posted on 07/19/2011 11:10:16 AM PDT by freespirited

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To: Fee

Bingo! Great post.


21 posted on 07/19/2011 11:32:22 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: RitaOK

Sounds like wishful thinking ... until we have a GOP Senate and WH.


22 posted on 07/19/2011 11:34:02 AM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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To: freespirited

“deliver real deficit savings in entitlement programs over 10 years”

Why, praytell, are we supposed to believe this?


23 posted on 07/19/2011 11:35:47 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: freespirited

Gee. $3.7T. Where have we heard that number before?

The 2012 0bama budget proposal that was rejected unanimously:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2012/assets/budget.pdf

0bama’s $3,800,000,000,000 budget request:

“The complexity of (his) budget make the numbers difficult to verify.”

“Overall, the debt would grow under his plan from just over $14 trillion now to nearly $21 trillion in five years.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/feb/14/obama-unveils-37-trillion-budget-blueprint/


24 posted on 07/19/2011 11:35:57 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: freespirited

“deliver real deficit savings in entitlement programs over 10 years”

Why, praytell, are we supposed to believe this? And why 10 years? It’ll give us tax hikes right away, no doubt. I’ll never understand, outside of vote-grabbing, why cuts can’t come right away, too. Then again, I really don’t need any alternative explanation than vote-grabbing.


25 posted on 07/19/2011 11:38:19 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: freespirited
So, instead of going a further $17 trillion into debt in the next 10 years, we'll only go $13.3 trillion more?

If we send it, they will spend it.

26 posted on 07/19/2011 11:40:59 AM PDT by anoldafvet (18 months until we're rid of "The Boy Blunder".)
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To: Nextrush
They are worse than just progressives... they are all cowards... they do this out of fear and Rush and several others... including sitiing Congressmen... stated that fear has paralyzed these people. clinton stated today that he would just ignore the ceiling and do whatever he wanted to do... and that is the America these cowards have wrought upon us.

LLS

27 posted on 07/19/2011 11:42:36 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer ("GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME DEATH"! I choose LIBERTY and PALIN!)
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To: jeltz25

“The dems would never be able to go after Republicans on taxes again. They’d be cutting them for the “rich” even more than Bush did. It would pretty much be going back on their entire ideology.”

What are you talking about? No amount of facts can dislodge Dems as the party of “the little guy” and Pubs as lackies of Big Business Fat Cats. No matter how much Wall Street money fills Obama’s coffers, no matter how progressive Pubs make their tax rates, no matter how much raising taxes hurts the lowly Forgotten Man, nothing will change.


28 posted on 07/19/2011 11:43:39 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: freespirited

Politico covers this ‘DarkHorse’ lovefest but ignores ‘Fast and Furious’.


29 posted on 07/19/2011 11:43:55 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: jeltz25
Yes there is. They will be lowering mortgage deductions,charitable contributions,health care contributions
and 401K tax savings. So they will lower the rates but they will make it up on the back end. Also the tax rates touted in the Gang of Six plan has 3 rates but there is variation in each bracket so you can bet alot of people will be shifted up to the higher end rates

“Simplify the tax code by reducing the number of tax expenditures and reducing individual
tax rates, by establishing three tax brackets with rates of 8–12 percent, 14–22 percent,and 23–29 percent.”

30 posted on 07/19/2011 11:46:00 AM PDT by funfan
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To: jeltz25
Yes there is. They will be lowering mortgage deductions,charitable contributions,health care contributions
and 401K tax savings. So they will lower the rates but they will make it up on the back end. Also the tax rates touted in the Gang of Six plan has 3 rates but there is variation in each bracket so you can bet alot of people will be shifted up to the higher end rates

“Simplify the tax code by reducing the number of tax expenditures and reducing individual
tax rates, by establishing three tax brackets with rates of 8–12 percent, 14–22 percent,and 23–29 percent.”

31 posted on 07/19/2011 11:46:10 AM PDT by funfan
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To: jeltz25
Yes there is. They will be lowering mortgage deductions,charitable contributions,health care contributions
and 401K tax savings. So they will lower the rates but they will make it up on the back end. Also the tax rates touted in the Gang of Six plan has 3 rates but there is variation in each bracket so you can bet alot of people will be shifted up to the higher end rates

“Simplify the tax code by reducing the number of tax expenditures and reducing individual
tax rates, by establishing three tax brackets with rates of 8–12 percent, 14–22 percent,and 23–29 percent.”

32 posted on 07/19/2011 11:46:22 AM PDT by funfan
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To: anoldafvet

“So, instead of going a further $17 trillion into debt in the next 10 years, we’ll only go $13.3 trillion more?”

No, like always, they’ll see the $3+ trillion, if it actually comes to pass, as a cushion for criticism of the perpetual motion machine that is the U.S. budget. In fact, they’ll see it as their duty to spend even more than they were otherwise going to to make up for the cuts. That’s how it works. And you can’t say anything about it, cause, hey, they gave you your cuts, you greedy Fat Cat.

“Hold on there, pal. What are you complaining about? I know debt is bigger than annual GDP, but we cut out $3 trillion, so you have nothing more to say to us.”


33 posted on 07/19/2011 11:52:17 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: freespirited

“including shifting to a new consumer price index to make cost-of-living adjustments to Social Security. “

I’ve read this can cut SS payments by as much as $700 per month. If so, R’s will get the blame on this, and it will sink the R party for decades to come.

The Dems and the media will posture it as if the R’s shifted money from the “lockbox” to kill Granny for the rich.

I don’t expect I will ever see SS. I never expected to really “retire” in any sense of the word either, but there are going to be a ton of folks already on fixed income, who have given everything to this nation, who are going to be hurt like no tomorrow.


34 posted on 07/19/2011 11:54:28 AM PDT by esoxmagnum (The rats have been trained to pull the D voting lever to get their little food pellet)
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To: anoldafvet
So, instead of going a further $17 trillion into debt in the next 10 years, we'll only go $13.3 trillion more?

If I understand correctly, yes, something like that.

35 posted on 07/19/2011 12:00:09 PM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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To: esoxmagnum
I’ve read this can cut SS payments by as much as $700 per month.

Do you recall where you read that? My understanding is that it affects only the cost of living increase. For example if the increase would be 3% under the current method of calculation, it might be reduced to 2.2% under the new one. That will lower benefits, but hardly by 700 bucks a month.

36 posted on 07/19/2011 12:02:42 PM PDT by freespirited (Stupid people are ruining America. --Herman Cain)
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To: RitaOK

I don’t get it either. How can Coburn expect anyone to take his plan if he’s so quick to jump ship?


37 posted on 07/19/2011 12:07:37 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: freespirited

“raise as much as $1 trillion.”

You taxes will rise to meet your share of that.
Oh, but they mis-printed “at least” LOL!

It’s a perfect beltway answer: more spending, more debt. more promises.


38 posted on 07/19/2011 12:10:27 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: freespirited

This is our last chance to save the republic. No debt extension. Cut govt off.


39 posted on 07/19/2011 12:14:17 PM PDT by rokkitapps ( Hearings on healthcare waivers NOW! (If you agree make this your tagline))
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
It’s going to raise taxes on me and other productive people to fund the waste. NO./i>

Like you, I'm suspicious.

But where in the article does it say they plan to raise taxes on anybody?


40 posted on 07/19/2011 12:20:27 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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