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Breaking: GOP passes Cut, Cap, & Balance Act (Paul Ryan Declares Victory, Bachmann Dissents)
Hotair ^ | 07/19/2011 | Ed Morrisey

Posted on 07/19/2011 6:58:39 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

John Boehner and the Republican caucus in the House passed the Cut, Cap, and Balance Act as promised on a near-party-line vote tonight, 234-190. The move puts the onus back on the White House to propose an alternative or assume responsibility for killing the debt-ceiling hike it contains:

Defying a veto threat, the Republican-controlled House passed legislation Tuesday night to slice federal spending by $6 trillion and require a constitutional balanced budget amendment to be sent to the states in exchange for averting a threatened government default.

The 234-190 vote marked the power of deeply conservative first-term Republicans, and stood in contrast to stirrings at the White House and in the Senate on a renewed effort at bipartisanship to solve the looming debt crisis.

Members of Congress have begun to fill e-mail inboxes with their reaction. From the upper chamber, Pat Toomey “applauds”:

“Today, my House colleagues have shown a willingness to raise the debt limit, but only if the president puts us on a path to a balanced budget. I applaud the House’s passage of the Cut, Cap and Balance Act and hope that the Senate will send this bill to the president’s desk,” Sen. Toomey said. “I find it hard to believe that the president would be so opposed to a path to a balanced federal budget that he would veto this legislation and reject the debt ceiling increase he claims is absolutely vital for the country.”

Paul Ryan declares victory:

“The House of Representatives continues to advance serious solutions to get our budget on the path to balance and our economy on the path to prosperity. The Cut, Cap and Balance legislation passed today cuts $5.8 trillion in spending over the next decade, locks in those savings with enforceable caps on spending, and forces Washington to finally live within its means with a Balanced Budget Amendment.

“The coming debt crisis is the single most predictable economic disaster in the history of this nation. Unfortunately, the White House refuses to put forth a credible plan to solve our spending problem, and Senate Democrats have not passed a budget in over 800 days. I remain hopeful that responsible leaders will work with us to advance specific solutions that uphold our solemn commitment to leave the next generation with a stronger, more prosperous nation than the one we inherited.”

However, Paul Broun sounds a dissent:

“I gave my word to my constituents in Georgia and to the rest of the American people that I would not vote for any bill that increases the debt limit. Although the Cut, Cap, and Balance bill is a step in the right direction, it still raises the debt ceiling by $2.4 trillion, and we simply cannot afford it.

“Also missing from the Cut, Cap, and Balance bill is the urgency to pay down the debt by immediately reducing the outrageous spending levels to which Washington has become so accustomed. Unfortunately, the cuts outlined in Cut, Cap, and Balance take effect over a period of ten years. We no longer have ten years to spare – it’s too little, too late.

“Undoubtedly, we have to cap spending and we must enact a balanced budget amendment, but Congress can get these tasks done without raising the debt ceiling. I have introduced bills to both lower the debt ceiling and to balance the budget.

“We’ve been down this road before. Administrations of the past have agreed to raise the debt ceiling on a contingency that cuts would be made in future budgets – but those cuts never materialized. It’s long past time to stop obligating our constitutional duties – along with our budgetary problems – to both future Congresses and future generations.”

Similarly, Michele Bachmann voted no on the final passage. She had been adamant about not raising the debt ceiling, offering a yes vote only in exchange for a full repeal of ObamaCare.

Either way, Republicans have now passed their second bill this session that attempts to address the exploding deficits and the debt crisis, the first being Paul Ryan’s budget plan in April. Meanwhile, Democrats in the Senate haven’t bothered to pass any budget resolution in over 800 days, and the White House still refuses to offer any specific ideas.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 112th; bachmann; bho44; boehner; budget; cantor; congress; debtceiling; default; gangof234; michelebachmann; police; regulators; teachers
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1 posted on 07/19/2011 6:58:42 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

NO more kicking the can down the road!!!


2 posted on 07/19/2011 7:01:26 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: SeekAndFind
It's far from a victory since they know it will be rejected.
Give the Senate until Aug 1 to reject it or ignore it then pass the exact same bill minus the BBA and tell the Rats, RINOs and Obama to “take it or leave it, end of offers”.
3 posted on 07/19/2011 7:04:27 PM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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To: SeekAndFind
She had been adamant about not raising the debt ceiling, offering a yes vote only in exchange for a full repeal of ObamaCare.

It's too bad that the other side can be confident in the fact that the Republicans, as a group, will never be principled and resolute enough to stick to an absolute line in the sand. Bachman is one of the few individual exceptions.

4 posted on 07/19/2011 7:09:11 PM PDT by Washi
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To: SeekAndFind

Broun is a non-entity, but Bachman wanted to be somebody. I think this vote proves she is a cipher.


5 posted on 07/19/2011 7:10:35 PM PDT by Melchior
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To: tobyhill

That would be them negotiating with themselves. Not a good policy.

Let this Line in the Sand stand. The dems, the WON and the rinos can take it or leave it.


6 posted on 07/19/2011 7:11:15 PM PDT by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: tobyhill

I don’t like the plan as is, without the BBA its really bad.

I like Bachmann’s plan - don’t raise the debt ceiling - it was put there for a reason. The house just needs to pass a bill that appropriately prioritizes the spending after Aug. 2. We want military and veterans paid first and medicaid abortions and Acorn paid last (i.e. not at all).


7 posted on 07/19/2011 7:14:28 PM PDT by impimp
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To: dusttoyou
I wish that was possible but I want to see Obama eat his peas and the only way we can do that is to get Obama to sign something he has refused to do previously.
8 posted on 07/19/2011 7:16:39 PM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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To: tobyhill

Coburn on Greata now.


9 posted on 07/19/2011 7:18:40 PM PDT by RitaOK (We hang together or will hang separately. 2012, or bust)
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To: RitaOK

btt


10 posted on 07/19/2011 7:20:58 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: impimp
I like that too but unfortunately at this point Obama is winning the PR battle. If he wins the PR battle he wins reelection and possibly the House.
11 posted on 07/19/2011 7:21:22 PM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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To: RitaOK

Mean, dirty trick by Coburn to undermine the House today; and he deliberately undermined the ability to garner RAT votes in the Senate for CCB.

I am livid. Coburn could have waited until tomorrow.


12 posted on 07/19/2011 7:22:12 PM PDT by mwl8787
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To: tobyhill

Of course Obama is winning the PR battle; the megaphone of the White House is extraordinary. That said, the GOP has compounded the problem by negotiating against itself on three fronts.


13 posted on 07/19/2011 7:24:50 PM PDT by mwl8787
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To: tobyhill

Coburn says today’s vote in the House puts on the way to his 9 Trillion plan, and wants a fix to begin on Aug. 2. His 9 Trillion plan gives a lot from our side, he says, and adds that he is self-term limited, and will not run again.

The House CCB goes now to the Senate, Jason Chaffetz (R).


14 posted on 07/19/2011 7:27:19 PM PDT by RitaOK (We hang together or will hang separately. 2012, or bust)
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To: Frank_2001

There are a few cans I’d like to see kicked down the road although I’d settle for them being ridden out on a rail.


15 posted on 07/19/2011 7:29:40 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (From her lips to the voters' ears: Debbie Wasserman Schultz: "We own the economy" June 15, 2011)
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To: RitaOK
Coburn is a BS artist like most others in that cesspool . A moment ago on Greta he said his 9 trill figure is not attainable. These pigs want to clear this up so they can meet Princess O on the Vineyard.
16 posted on 07/19/2011 7:32:18 PM PDT by fantom (,)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Senate haven’t bothered to pass any budget resolution in over 800 days, and the White House still refuses to offer any specific ideas."

FReepers can pass this one around.

17 posted on 07/19/2011 7:32:51 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: mwl8787

Cut, Cap & Balance has passed only where we have the majority. We can hope that this now puts the democrat majority in the senate into a pressure cooker. Heck, the mood American voters are in, who knows, maybe it passes the senate too. Chaffetz says it’s possible because it is going to be awkward for the democrats to blow off a balanced budget which is required in every state.

How do democrats buck a balanced budget. LOL. Let Obama veto it and he is toast through the campaign.


18 posted on 07/19/2011 7:36:05 PM PDT by RitaOK (We hang together or will hang separately. 2012, or bust)
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To: mwl8787; fantom

Coburn and Obama bedfellows since 2009.

http://blogs.wsj.com/capitaljournal/2009/01/23/obama-coburn-odd-bedfellows-in-the-hunt-for-bipartisanship/


19 posted on 07/19/2011 7:43:32 PM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: SeekAndFind; tobyhill

So the House passes what the Tea Party asked for and here’s tobyhill crapping on what everyone wanted:

tobyhill post #3 - “It’s far from a victory since they know it will be rejected.”

tobyhill post #11 - “I like that too but unfortunately at this point Obama is winning the PR battle.”

No encouragement. No cheer. All we get from you is that we’re doomed; it’s not victory; and obuma is winning.

What side are cheering for, tobyhill? You stink like an obuma troll to me.


20 posted on 07/19/2011 7:47:37 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: fantom

Coburn is a BS artist like most others in that cesspool . A moment ago on Greta he said his 9 trill figure is not attainable. “ <<<

Well, of course that’s the reality that it won’t pass, but he says it can solve 100% of the problem with the ideas in it. Until the majority is ours and not theirs nothing of ours can be crammed down their throat. 2012 means a lot.


21 posted on 07/19/2011 7:48:01 PM PDT by RitaOK (We hang together or will hang separately. 2012, or bust)
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To: SeekAndFind

HOLD THE LINE!


22 posted on 07/19/2011 7:49:25 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (SP12: They called Reagan "unelectable", too.)
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To: Melchior

Bachmann may be a nobody but she did the right thing. She held on and voted against raising the debt ceiling. Good for her! BRAVO.


23 posted on 07/19/2011 7:51:21 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (SP12: They called Reagan "unelectable", too.)
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To: tobyhill

Its coming!
Asside from the Over the hill gang of 6, am betting there is some rope-a-dope going on with the Senate GOPers that ties in CC&B Bill.


24 posted on 07/19/2011 7:54:27 PM PDT by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: RitaOK
We can hope that this now puts the democrat majority in the senate into a pressure cooker.

Maybe it would have if Tom Coburn and the other Senate GOP idiots hadn't come up with their own vague, nebulous, Obama-approved proposal - you know, the one that doesn't touch entitlement spending.
25 posted on 07/19/2011 7:54:33 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Frank_2001
Yep. Pass a few more choices, this time with no new3 traxes and IMMEDIATE spending decreases.

No more Arugula for the White Hut.

26 posted on 07/19/2011 7:55:33 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: sergeantdave
Not an Obama troll. The House did not pass what the Tea Party wants because this is just exchange for a debt ceiling increase and by the way I'm a member of the Tea Party, Sarg.
I don't want the debt ceiling increased but politically not doing so is political suicide.
All I said was drop the BBA and get what little victory we can and move on to the 2012 budget and the next election.
The alternative to getting the the House plan passed with or without the BBA is one of the 2 RINO Senate Plans. Is that what you want?
27 posted on 07/19/2011 7:59:20 PM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

” Maybe it would have if Tom Coburn and the other Senate GOP idiots hadn’t come up with their own vague, nebulous, Obama-approved proposal - you know, the one that doesn’t touch entitlement spending. “ <<<<

I stay confused. Too much information. Coburn took the Gang of Six his 9 Trillion deal, like, yesterday. The full senate is about to get the House Bill, Cut,Cap&Balance, that passed 3 hours ago. Then the Gang of Six together had their own plan that you mention, but even that is a start on the 9 Trillion Plan though its purpose is to get us through August 2. Right?


28 posted on 07/19/2011 8:00:44 PM PDT by RitaOK (We hang together or will hang separately. 2012, or bust)
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To: tobyhill

question: Remind me what is the BBA? I hate acronyms. I stay lost.


29 posted on 07/19/2011 8:02:56 PM PDT by RitaOK (We hang together or will hang separately. 2012, or bust)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
Bachmann may be a nobody but she did the right thing. She held on and voted against raising the debt ceiling. Good for her! BRAVO

The nine House Republicans who stood their ground and voted against the fraudulent balancing act:

Kudos to them all.
30 posted on 07/19/2011 8:04:47 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: RitaOK

balanced budget amendment


31 posted on 07/19/2011 8:06:12 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (I love the smell of burning Hope & Change in the morning.)
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To: RitaOK
Coburn is Obama's favorite "conservative" senator and has been since 2009
32 posted on 07/19/2011 8:09:39 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Coburn is a traitor. Obama loves the Gang of Six.)
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To: RitaOK

Balanced Budget Amendment.

If we play our cards right we can get a BBA after we take over the Senate and the White House. If even then we don’t have enough for a Constitutional Amendment we can get it passed through Senate and House rules.


33 posted on 07/19/2011 8:10:07 PM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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To: SeekAndFind

There are Tax increases in that crap sandwich!


34 posted on 07/19/2011 8:10:48 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: Cheetahcat

The House crap sandwich or the Co-burn, Gang of Sicks crap sandwich?


35 posted on 07/19/2011 8:12:32 PM PDT by Jane Long (2 Chron 7:14)
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To: Jane Long
Exactly. Both Republicans and Democrats are hellbent on giving Obama the increase. We need to get the best deal we can and move on to the 2012 budget and the elections.
36 posted on 07/19/2011 8:19:23 PM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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To: RitaOK
Here's a summary of the Gang Of Six proposal from Daniel Mitchell at the Cato Institute.

Some lowlights:

A tax overhaul which "must be estimated to provide $1 trillion in additional revenue to meet plan targets". That's $1 trillion in new taxes.

No spending caps on entitlements.

According to Jeff Sessions, the actual savings over a decade if the proposal is followed to the letter amounts to $1.2 trillion - and that's with $1 trillion in new taxes. This isn't a serious proposal to cut spending or deal with our debt crisis.
37 posted on 07/19/2011 8:22:07 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: tobyhill

Don’t be a pessimist. Don’t believe the spin.


38 posted on 07/19/2011 8:29:16 PM PDT by impimp
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To: tobyhill

“Not an Obama troll. The House did not pass what the Tea Party wants because this is just exchange for a debt ceiling increase and by the way I’m a member of the Tea Party, Sarg.”

Then I misunderstood you. My apologies. I completely disagree with you, though, about your Tea Party statement.


39 posted on 07/19/2011 8:31:08 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: NonValueAdded
There are a few cans I’d like to see kicked down the road although I’d settle for them being ridden out on a rail.

I would suggest John McCain as a start.

This man puzzles me. The pilot John McCain was a man of extraordinary courage, honor and integrity. I have no idea what Senator John McCain is, it "aint" pretty.

40 posted on 07/19/2011 8:31:37 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: Melchior

Broun is a patriot, patriots protect their country from the government. That makes him far more than a non-entty. You can count statesman on one hand.


41 posted on 07/19/2011 8:34:03 PM PDT by Conservative9
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To: sergeantdave
So the House passes what the Tea Party asked for

The question is will they stick to it or cave in after a week?

42 posted on 07/19/2011 8:34:15 PM PDT by JimWayne
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To: impimp
I don't want to be a pessimist but with all the games that Boehner and McConnell play I have zero confidence in our congress.
43 posted on 07/19/2011 8:34:30 PM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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To: SeekAndFind
Coming soon to a harbor near the RINOs and Lefties


44 posted on 07/19/2011 8:35:45 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Obama and the left are making a mockery of our country.)
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To: mwl8787

Sure Ob is winning, which is why he is down to 42% and likely actually in the 30s. Here’s hoping he has more PR victories in the future.

Pray for America


45 posted on 07/19/2011 8:40:00 PM PDT by bray (Palin is the DC Nightmare)
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To: RitaOK

Coburn is lying. And yes the House can cram a spending bill down the Presidents and Senates throat- they control spending. If they don’t get the vote, they stand strong and write the spending bills the way they want. Let the progressive R senators play their games, we need statesmen to stop the spending and prevent this debt limit increase. We do not have the time for these games.


46 posted on 07/19/2011 8:41:54 PM PDT by Conservative9
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
According to Jeff Sessions, the actual savings over a decade if the proposal is followed to the letter amounts to $1.2 trillion - and that's with $1 trillion in new taxes. This isn't a serious proposal to cut spending or deal with our debt crisis.

Again & again these flakes in D.C. have no intention of stopping the spending. You all knew that they will raise the debt. They can't stop the spending - it's not in the old fossils that make up this corrupt CONgress.

47 posted on 07/19/2011 8:42:34 PM PDT by Digger (T)
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To: logician2u

God bless them all. Our grandchildren should know their names. Only nine who would stand.


48 posted on 07/19/2011 8:45:29 PM PDT by Conservative9
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To: logician2u

Yep, my congratulations to all of them for doing the right thing. I wish many more of the conservative Tea Party freshmen had also voted no. I’m sure there was a lot of RINO pressure on them, being freshmen and all. Too bad.

I expect this entire budget fight won’t end well. I expect we will be rolled again and the national debt will soar. Until the GOP has the Senate and Presidency, we are screwed. We need a GOP executive and senate to repeal Obamacare anyway.

Here is to taking both in 2012! Of course, the GOP RINOs could still screw that up by surrendering to Obama, causing the conservative base to stay home again like in 2008.

I shudder at the thought. 4 more years of Obama will end us. Obamacare kicks in 2013. Once the Orcs get their Obamacare for 4 years, it will be the same as cutting Social Security - an untouchable 3rd rail. If Obamacare is not repealed before the parasites start sucking off it, there will be no repealing it.

Soros knows this.


49 posted on 07/19/2011 8:45:44 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (SP12: They called Reagan "unelectable", too.)
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To: sergeantdave
It is my belief that we have been played for fools, again. Boehner passed this bill knowing the House was as far as it was going when he could have written something that calls Obama’s announced bluff. The idea of guaranteeing SS, Medicare and Military Checks was an option like you said but one has to ask themselves, why didn't he? The only answer I can come up with is Boehner wants to raise the debt ceiling and bamboozle us at the same time.
I want to get what we can get and then move on to the 2012 budget fight. My preferred idea is to have Boehner gone by then and have someone that is not selling us out.
50 posted on 07/19/2011 8:46:01 PM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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