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Foreignersí Licenses Checked (NM Gov orders proof of residency)
The Albuquerque Journal ^ | July 20, 2011 | Deborah Baker

Posted on 07/20/2011 9:46:22 AM PDT by CedarDave

Ten thousand randomly selected foreign nationals with New Mexico driver’s licenses are being told to make appointments in Albuquerque to verify their residency, Gov. Susana Martinez’s office said Tuesday.

Drivers who don’t make the appointments or fail to provide proof of residency would face cancellation of their licenses, the Governor’s Office said.

Martinez said the residency certification program will provide data about the extent to which licenses have been issued to people who don’t live in New Mexico.

The administration said the letters were to go out beginning immediately to 10,000 of the 85,000 foreign nationals without Social Security numbers who have obtained New Mexico driver’s licenses since 2003.

If the data from the review of 10,000 drivers indicate a widespread problem of licenses issued to nonresidents, the Motor Vehicle Division will proceed to verify the residency of the rest of the foreign national drivers, Martinez’s office said.

Immigrants’ rights groups were alarmed by the governor’s announcement, and a Democratic state senator said the administration initiative “looks more like a witch hunt than good public policy.”

(Excerpt) Read more at abqjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: driverslicenses; illegalimmigrants; illegals; martinez
Because it has made NM a target for fraud, Martinez opposes the 2003 New Mexico law allowing illegal immigrants to obtain licenses. Earlier this year she failed to get the legislature to repeal the law but has said she will try again during a special session late this summer.
1 posted on 07/20/2011 9:46:28 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: CedarDave

How it is in other states — if you move and show a valid NM license do you automatically get a new license in that state, or are you flagged because NM doesn’t require proof of immigration status?


2 posted on 07/20/2011 9:49:51 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: CedarDave

Ten thousand randomly selected foreign nationals with New Mexico driver’s licenses

Didn’t they have to prove residency to get the license to begin with?


3 posted on 07/20/2011 9:50:00 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: LegendHasIt; Rogle; leapfrog0202; Santa Fe_Conservative; DesertDreamer; OneWingedShark; ...

NM list PING! Click on the flag to go to the Free Republic New Mexico message page.

(The NM list is available on my FR homepage for anyone to use. Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from the list. For ABQ Journal articles requiring a subscription, scroll down to the bottom of the page to view the article for free after watching a short video commercial.)

4 posted on 07/20/2011 9:51:13 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: CedarDave

When I lived there I needed to show a utility bill with an address to get my NM license.


5 posted on 07/20/2011 9:54:00 AM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: CedarDave
How it is in other states — if you move and show a valid NM license do you automatically get a new license in that state, or are you flagged because NM doesn’t require proof of immigration status?

I'm not certain about all of them, but before I moved to New Mexico, I lived in New Hampshire (after moving there from Idaho).

New Hampshire wouldn't accept my old Idaho license without other proof. I had to provide birth certificates, marriage license for me and my wife, social security cards, and my old Idaho license, and proof of residency in NH to get a DL in NH.

6 posted on 07/20/2011 10:01:29 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: marstegreg
Besides a birth certificate, all they had to show was something showing a name and address such as a utility bill and maybe a consular card from Mexico for Mexicans. No proof of immigration status was required. There was a bunch of fraud with immigrants from other states (not necessarily Mexicans -- Poles and Chinese for example) getting licenses. Requirements tightened up last year -- all documents need to be verified and that could take up to 45 days. But for earlier licenses not much scrutiny was given. From an earlier ABQ Journal article:

... U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and state Taxation and Revenue investigators have made similar arrests involving undocumented immigrants from Mexico, Brazil, Ecuador, El Salvador and Guatemala. Most of those arrested came from Georgia, Florida, New York and Illinois, all of which require proof of immigration status.

Read more: ABQJOURNAL NEWS/STATE: Poles Coming to N.M. for Licenses http://www.abqjournal.com/news/state/302342478552newsstate07-30-10.htm

7 posted on 07/20/2011 10:02:39 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: CedarDave

Well, at least it is a step in the right direction.


8 posted on 07/20/2011 10:06:46 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: CedarDave

It’s insane the way our government creates problems for itself. I guess that’s what keeps them in business because they can’t possibly be that ignorant.


9 posted on 07/20/2011 10:09:04 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: CedarDave
How it is in other states — if you move and show a valid NM license do you automatically get a new license in that state, or are you flagged because NM doesn’t require proof of immigration status?

When I moved to AZ in '09, I was flagged on my NM license. Fortunately, my record of previously having an AZ license was still available, so I was issued a new one based on that.

10 posted on 07/20/2011 10:18:16 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (My God can't be bribed by money or good works or bound by manmade "covenants". Romney's can.)
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To: LegendHasIt

“Well, at least it is a step in the right direction.”

No, it isn’t! It’s madness! They don’t have to prove they’re in the COUNTRY legally. Just that they’re residents of New Mexico. You know, produce a water or cable bill.

Why do I care whether they’re paying for a phone in Santa Fe? Does that protect me when they’re allowed to board a plane with these licenses? Does that refund my tax money that supports them? Does that get my family members jobs who’ve been priced out of electrical contracting?

The takeaway from this article is NEW MEXICO GIVES DRIVERS LICENSES TO ILLEGAL ALIENS.

New Mexico should be expelled from America until they agree to enforce national sovereignty to the extent states are allowed to.


11 posted on 07/20/2011 10:29:12 AM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: LegendHasIt

I don’t think so. The way the article reads, all they are checking is “residency”. Do they actually live in NM or not? Like, can they produce a pay stub or an electric bill or rent receipt? That’s all that means.


12 posted on 07/20/2011 10:46:52 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: Blue Ink

Hey! You stealing my thunder by typing faster? And, by being correct.:)


13 posted on 07/20/2011 10:48:12 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: SuzyQue

I was typing rather hysterically, as you can see by the generous use of exclamation points and caps.

I’m calmer now.

But honestly, DON’T GET ME STARTED ON STATES THAT ISSUE LICENSES TO ILLEGAL ALI—

Oh, dear. Here we go...


14 posted on 07/20/2011 10:53:30 AM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: CedarDave

Good for her! If the legislature won’t help she’ll find another way!


15 posted on 07/20/2011 11:10:54 AM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: marstegreg

It’s insane the way our government creates problems for itself. I guess that’s what keeps them in business because they can’t possibly be that ignorant.
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This policy was put into place by a rather ethically challenged former Dem. Governor. He made NM a sanctuary state also - illegal immigrants get all the benefits in our state and their children immediately get in-state tuition at our colleges. My daughter that came and lived with us to finish her college degree couldn’t get in-state tuition even though we’d lived there for 3 years at that time, but children of illegal immigrants can just walk into the state and immediately get it.


16 posted on 07/20/2011 11:14:25 AM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: Blue Ink

Unfortunately that’s all the Governor can do right now. The state legislature did not pass a bill to stop this practice, as she asked.

Right now this is likely all she can do legally. She has already had the Democrats in the legislature take her decisions on other things to the NM Supreme Court so she has to make sure she is doing what she legally can and no more. They’ve put her on notice they don’t mind wasting money hauling her into the court system.


17 posted on 07/20/2011 11:17:10 AM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: Blue Ink
New Mexico should be expelled from America until they agree to enforce national sovereignty to the extent states are allowed to.

We're working on it. Governor Martinez is doing what she can, since the dems in the state killed a bill to deny illegals licenses.

18 posted on 07/20/2011 11:18:55 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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To: leapfrog0202

It’s time to put law abiding CITIZENS in this country first. I think this push for rights for illegals began as a way to get ready for One-World-Government as the Libs and Dems had hoped. I think we just caught on faster than they had hoped. In their giddiness over electing Obama, they really exposed themselves. I believe BIG changes are on the way. Changes they are not going to like. Hang in there


19 posted on 07/20/2011 11:26:33 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: CedarDave

In Texas, now, we have a voter ID requirement and you must show proof of citizenship to get a DL.

Nearly got the anti-sanctuary cities measure but, not quite.


20 posted on 07/20/2011 11:41:41 AM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: marstegreg

Thanks Marstegreg, you’re right about putting law abiding CITIZENS first!

Thank goodness the voters of NM screwed their heads on correctly and elected the Republican District Attorney of Las Cruces as our Governor. She is so far kicking a** and taking names! The Dems are fighting her every inch of the way but I’m hoping when some of these legislators have to run for re-election that voters realize she needs some strong Repubs to help get her agenda through.


21 posted on 07/20/2011 2:32:28 PM PDT by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: leapfrog0202

No problem. I have an 11 year old and a 13 year old. Catholic school doesn’t come cheap but there is no way I trust the public shools to mentor my chilren. High school is right around the corner (we are hoping for some scholarships) and i can’t even think about the cost of college yet. If I was in a state that offered free college tuition and then I found out I was at the bottom of the list because I was a law abiding citizen I would be mad as heck. I admire your restraint I would not be nearly as gracious! ;)


22 posted on 07/20/2011 4:21:17 PM PDT by marstegreg
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To: Blue Ink; SuzyQue

As I said it is a step in the right direction.

I didn’t say that it would eliminate the problem.

The Governor already tried to do away completely with the program givign licenses to illegals, but the Democrat Legislature blocked it.

But at least this might get through the democrat Legislature, and, AS A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, eliminate the thousands of illegal aliens, including OTMs, that live in other states that Bill Richardson was more than happy to give licenses to.


23 posted on 07/20/2011 7:33:37 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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