Posted on 07/20/2011 12:15:18 PM PDT by ml/nj
Stalin's indifference made a profound impression on Marshall. The Soviets, it seemed, were quite content t see uncertainty and chaos prevail in Europe. It served their purposes to let matters drift. Particularly, they had no wish for a return of order and stability in Germany, let alone a revived prosperity there. Marshall had thought the Russians could be negotiated with, but at Moscow he decided he had been mistaken.
I assume it will be obvious to all why this paragraph struck me as it did.
ML/NJ
Make them desperate enough to wish for any savior— then be the savior.
“Uncle Joe” had had his way in dealing with Roosevelt and Truman, why would Marshall think he could get somewhere?
Obama’s indifference made a profound impression on Republicans. The Democrats it seemed, were quite content to see uncertainty and chaos prevail in the United States. It served their purposes to let matters drift. Particularly, they had no wish for a return of order and stability in America, let alone a revived prosperity there. Republicans had thought Obama could be negotiated with, but at the White House they decided they had been mistaken.
One problem with Obama is that he thinks he is smarter than everyone else and that he can do anything -- and despite mounds of evidence to the contrary, he remains unshakeable in these beliefs.
Patton realized this immediately and knew it was the signing of a death warrant for millions of people to make any deal with the Devil (Stalin).
He was not shy about voicing his opinions and he was shut up by our leaders. He was on the way to alert the American people to the Truth (by going directly to Congress) and, of course, there were several assassination attempts on his life (can’t have Truth in America under Marxism)—the car “accident” didn’t succeed in killing him and after his bags were packed to return to America he was dead (with no autopsy).
Patton was probably killed (Target Patton) and later demonized by the Marxist MSM because he was much more presidential material than Ike and MUCH MORE popular with the masses and his theories had to be demonized by association. (Can’t have Communism look evil!!!!!!!! in MSM).
Agitprop continued—just like on McCarthy (Blacklisted by History)—the infiltration of the Marxists in the Media and government controlled the “thinking and perceptions” with their lies and cover ups in the press of the atrocities of the atheist Russians which made Patton despise the Russians more than the Germans. Marxists in America determined policies with Tito and Mao that devastated the lives of millions.
It is why Churchill was dumped and disregarded at Yalta, after he had been so instrumental in the saving of England—Of course, for Marxist’s ends, but that is another story that only Thatcher was able to contain for just a little while.
Unfortunately, you are spot on.
I have never thought he was very smart, just based on what he says. And I've never thought he was a particularly good speaker, either. More and more people seem to be realizing it.
The problem with zero is he is a Marxist who believes in moral relativism—that there is no God—they are gods and decide right and wrong by their standards—not Universal Truths determined by our Creator—Just Law (Cicero/Locke/Blackstone).
This arbitrary law cr*p—positing “unjust law” (not ‘right reason aligned with Natural Law’) is what is killing the intent and meaning of our Constitution and destroying our Natural Rights (Natural Law Theory) which come from God’s standard of right and wrong—not Marx’s.
Everything that leaks from that mind of sewage is unconstitutional and antithetical to the Rule of Law. He’s an ideologue—with a philosophy of Marxism which made it impossible for him to take the “oath” of office in good faith.
He is a fraud and liar and should be impeached by all legal standards—that is US standards, not Russia’s.
I think Obama did this to America. People believed he was smart because he acted like he was smart. It really is a case of The Emperor Has No Clothes.
And you can't recover from that.
ML/NJ
“The Soviets, it seemed, were quite content t see uncertainty and chaos prevail in Europe. It served their purposes to let matters drift. Particularly, they had no wish for a return of order and stability in Germany, let alone a revived prosperity there.”
Boy, do THESE people sound familiar...!
What were the assassination attempts on Patton.
There is little or no evidence that the accident which led to his death was anything but an accident.
My sources: The biography “Patton” and consensus of all historians (not Russian) who stated that if the Allied Commanders would have listened to Patton, WWII would have ended at least a year earlier and saved hundreds of thousands of Allied troops. The Commanders thwarted Patton intentionally (gas for tanks) to make him unsuccessful because of his brilliance and popularity in the US.
Ike was terrified of his popularity because of his own political ambitions...yet, even though Patton always had stated that he never wanted to run for office, the egos of the Allied Commanders envied and hated Patton because he was brilliant and so much wiser and smarter than them.
The book, “Target: Patton” and, of course, other sources in many other books and on the internet, and the visiting of museums in Luxembourg, and the hit lists of Stalin and “allies” have convinced me that assasination is much more plausible than “accident”. The review on the following book on Amazon explains the “proof” much better than I can.
Nothing happens by accident in politics....wisdom of FDR.
http://www.amazon.com/Target-Patton-Assassinate-General-George/product-reviews/1596985798
OMG.....you should read all the reviews on the Target:Patten list-—one written by a soldier’s son....wow....what incriminating evidence against the evil means of Ike and Montgomery.
Politicians are a slimy group......Patton wanted no part in politics, but he resigned rather than retired from the military, so he wasn’t “shut up”. Ha—what a genius...he was independently wealthy and couldn’t be controlled by the puppetmasters...the elite mover (bankers/Marxists) and shakers of the world....He was one of those men of principles....who end up being assassinated or put on a shelf and marginalized, like the great Churchill’s bust in the White House.
Can’t EVER allow the idea that Communism is VILE and UGLY.....NO...people who think like that and are brilliant and popular will end up like McCarthy and Patton and Churchill..got to shut them up and destroy their power over the perceptions of the little people. Just more MSM/Marxist control of information that so dominated the entire globe....not just Goebbels Germany——that is part of the Big Lie—the idea of “free press” in the US. Never had it until the internet.
Ike and Monty were Commie sympathizers? Riiight of course they were and they consorted with aliens from another dimension too. What a load of crap. Patton was a great soldier but his idea of attacking the USSR would have been considered insane by the VAST majority of Americans who were tired of war and wanted it over. He would not have gotten 25% of the vote had he run for president.
Nonsense and false to boot. No one ignored Patton and there was NO way the war could have been ended a year earlier. Stalin was screaming at the allies because the invasion did not occur earlier. Yet, the generals supposedly commie were the ones saying it could not be done earlier. You can’t have it both ways.
Bradley was not willing to take the chance of Patton getting too far ahead of everyone else and not for far in the future political considerations.
Patton fought a blitzkrieg style of war and the danger with that is out running your supply lines and having them overrun by the enemies. There was not enough petrol for quite a long time while the allies were rebuilding the ports the Nazis destroyed. They had to lay a pipeline under the English Channel to get the oil over. And storms made that difficult and disrupted it more than once.
Of course, everyone knows that the commies regularly assassinate their enemies by having a truck driven by an American GI crash into their cars to break their necks. What a load.
The last thing Ike was thinking of in 1945 was running for president. He was not concerned about any such thing merely eliminating the Nazis. From everything I can see about this is that it was indeed an accident. God was just as likely to have removed him because his work was done as because of any nefarious plot.
Historians do not believe anything you said about this being anything but an accident.
You won’t find anyone who loves a good conspiracy more than I do either.
No evidence? The vehicle exhibited by the government as the one he died in? The missing reports? No autopsy of such an important person? The Soviet assassination hit list? His words telling his family he doesn’t think he will make it home? The plane he was in which was shot down and he miraculously survived? The lies and innuendos about his actions which were repeated by the Allied leaders? The bullets that barely missed him? The deliberate thwarting of Patton’s offensives—so his victories would be less so and kill thousands of more men? All credible historians who said that Patton’s ideas were far superior to Montgomery’s and Ike’s and would have ended the war over a year earlier and saved hundreds of thousands of men. Right.
Believe your history books—the ones written by the Marxists who also told us McCarthy was wrong (Big Lie—Blacklisted by History) The press told us there was NO Communist infiltration of the press—Hiss was no Communist—Rosenbergs were NOT communists—Yep, no Goebbel distortion and lies to destroy people who thought Communism was (horror) EVIL. No Walter Concrites, no Dan Rathers—we got the “truth” from the government and particularly the press.
Am I condemning our Allied Commanders? No, not really, but I am condemning them for extreme jealousy of genius and stupidity and I wouldn’t put it past them to order the death of someone outspoken and brash as Patton who “threatened” to bring the truth to the American people. They demoted him after all, slapped him in public continuously, and constantly sanctioned him for the delight of our “press” and Hollywood communist producers and the detriment to millions of lives destroyed, killed, that if Patton would have been “listened to” would not have happened.
But then he was outspoken and they were proud men and FDR loved Uncle Joe, and yes, particularly Ike, had political ambitions and “image” was everything (truth never matters as history is proving—The Big Lie and the masses—all about what they “think” is the truth—agitprop has worked since the 20’s).
Ike realized how extremely dangerous he was to their mass “perception”. If you haven’t figured out how deadly politics is—yes, it is a game—but it is a DEADLY one. Why do you think so many politicians are quiet today against an outright communist in the office of presidency? Why do every single one of them have body guards? Why do people who criticize the president like Beck fear for their life and spend millions on body guards for all their family.
Why should Murdoch be very frightened.
This has been going on for centuries. Read Machiavelli or even Sir Acton’s quote. Do you not understand the evil of political power?????????
But anyhow— I think the Soviets probably beat our Allies to it. The Communists were always sneakier....look at Yalta and the millions Stalin got to massacre and tell THEM their families and the hundreds of millions of people who were enslaved, that Patton was wrong. The Russians were far too weak at the end of the war—it would have been simple. WWII devastated them and their army—Yes, the truth and principles mattered. It is why Churchill was snubbed by FDR at Yalta. EVIL POLITICS!
Both Patton and MacArthur were right—two of our greatest military geniuses were shut up and who had a hand in it? (http://reformed-theology.org/html/issue05/acheson.htm) Secretary of State Dean Acheson.
The world would be a much better place had they listened to the greatest generals and not communists, yet. if we had listened to them and destroyed China and Russia and that deadly Communist ideology which only enslaves and kills we wouldn’t be here today. Now look at the Communists and the power they have amassed and there creation of their new world order.
If anything the Soviets would have wanted him to kill as many Germans as he could since they had been demanding just such a policy from the beginning of the war. You cannot have it both ways. Anything that hastened the Nazi collapse would have helped Stalin.
“The vehicle exhibited by the government as the one he died in?” Huh?
“The missing reports?” Huh? How do you know what was in them, they are missing.
“No autopsy of such an important person?” Seems to be unnecessary since he died from the effects of the paralysis caused by the accident, a pulmonary embolism.
It is not strange that Patton died what is strange is that he lived so long. He was constantly at the front and his men were always amazed to find him ahead of them in fast moving battles. They could not figure out how he got ahead of them time after time.
“The Soviet assassination hit list?” Everyone should fear the deadly US Army truck driven by an American Sergeant, a killer of thousands.
“The plane he was in which was shot down and he miraculously survived?” Planes are shot down in wars.
“The bullets that barely missed him?” Bullets are fired at people, even great generals, in wars.
“The lies and innuendos about his actions which were repeated by the Allied leaders?” Is this different than the lies and innuendos told about Ike such as the one that he was a commie?
“The deliberate thwarting of Patton’s offensives—so his victories would be less so and kill thousands of more men?” Stalin would not have liked that so his puppets in the Allied military would have earned his condemnation for not giving George his head. In reality military leaders have different ideas all the time over how to proceed in a war.
“All credible historians who said that Patton’s ideas were far superior to Montgomery’s and Ike’s and would have ended the war over a year earlier and saved hundreds of thousands of men” Fringe and cranks are not “credible” they are incredible.
The rest of your farrago is nothing more than a few half truths blown up into a paranoid mess.
Oh, but you ignore the largest condemnation and proof of all-—WHO were giving FDR and Truman the information (lies) and “suggesting” their moves for the Allies and the Yalta agreements and aid to Mao.... and directing all the policies??????
McCarthy has been vindicated, and he too, was assassinated, by the press, though—(as all anti-Communists). It is all about public perception—that Goebbel’s control of MSM and written “history”....I see you have drank the koolaide
Skepticism is a must with all politics....nothing in politics is an accident—FDR
You obviously have not read the biography, “Patton: A Genius of War”. I highly recommend it.
Please do so and then get back to me.
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