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Fewer people see heavy smoking as high risk: survey (propaganda failing?)
Reuters/Yahoo ^ | 7/21/11

Posted on 07/21/2011 5:44:48 AM PDT by markomalley

The perception by teenagers and young adults that heavy cigarette smoking is a high-risk activity has declined in many states, according to a U.S. study on substance abuse and mental health released on Thursday.

The perceived risks of smoking one or more packs of cigarettes a day dropped between 2007-2008 and 2008-2009 in 14 states among youths aged 12 to 17, and in 31 states among those aged 18 to 25.

Perceived smoking risks also dropped in nine states among those 26 and older, a statement from the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration said regarding the report.

"No state is free from the unique impact of mental and substance use disorders," SAMHSA administrator Pamela Hyde said in a statement.

(Excerpt) Read more at old.news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: health; pufflist; smoking
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I'm sure the government will be thrilled with this result: get a whole new generation of taxpayers ready to fund pet programs through tobacco taxes.
1 posted on 07/21/2011 5:44:50 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley
Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration

I assume this is a Federal government outfit? Nuke it.

2 posted on 07/21/2011 5:47:01 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Public schools = TSA: incompetent, abusive, anti-American. Why are we putting up with either one?)
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To: markomalley

´Smoked like a chimney when I was in the Army. Fortunately,after about a year, I got a flu that nearly killed me, or all I wanted to do was die. Though after I started feeling better I realized that I´d gone four or five days without a cigarette and thus, never looked back, although these days I enjoy a good cigar now and then.


3 posted on 07/21/2011 5:50:59 AM PDT by onedoug (If)
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To: markomalley

Smoking was part of the women’s movement...alcohol and smoking...They got their way...


4 posted on 07/21/2011 5:52:58 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Ping!


5 posted on 07/21/2011 5:57:20 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Let this chant follow BHO everywhere he goes: "You lie. You lie. You lie.")
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To: onedoug

I quit cold turkey in March of 1986. The company I worked for delivered a new Chevy Caprice for my use and I hated the idea of getting it smoked up.


6 posted on 07/21/2011 5:58:47 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: onedoug

I, “Accidently,” quit after trying the e-cigarette.
I do, occasionally, smoke a cigar or pipe -like once a month or two.

Former 30-year smoker.


7 posted on 07/21/2011 5:59:51 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Let this chant follow BHO everywhere he goes: "You lie. You lie. You lie.")
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To: markomalley

It’s gotten to the point where anybody with a clue has realized the government has lied to them so many times they don’t believe anything they say any more.


8 posted on 07/21/2011 6:04:28 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: markomalley

They probably don’t care, life has become almost intolerable.


9 posted on 07/21/2011 6:05:00 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Sacajaweau

Yes, the tobacco industry targeted the feminist movement and quite successfully. Remember the slogan, I believe for “Virginia Slims”, it was “You’ve come a long way, baby”. Yep, now women can get lung cancer just as easily as male smokers can, what a benefit of gender equality.


10 posted on 07/21/2011 6:08:01 AM PDT by laconic
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I quit January 2003.

With that extra money, I treat myself occasionally: LCD TV, laptop computer, living room furniture, etc.

Just this week, I noticed a carton of cigs at $56+state tax. WOW. I used to go through 3-4 cartons per month. I figure I am saving between $200 and $275 per month. That adds up.

I have noticed more young people (early-mid 20s) smoking. At the 20-unit complex where I live, half of the units are oldies (like me) and the other half are young couples. Most of the units with young couples have at least one smoker and some have two smokers.


11 posted on 07/21/2011 6:17:15 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: tacticalogic

Classic research in social psychology dating back to the late 1950’s/early 1960’s demonstrates: 1) Extreme messages are tuned out by the intended recipients; and, 2) the forbidden choice is the one people desire the most.

These two points pretty much sum up the gubmint’s approach to the war on tobacco and, hence, explain this result.


12 posted on 07/21/2011 6:18:15 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (I'll have what the gentleman on the floor is drinking.)
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To: Sacajaweau

‘A silly millimeter longer, One Oh One”..........yeah baby


13 posted on 07/21/2011 6:18:26 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: markomalley

When you have the surgeon general saying hysterical things like “No amount of cigarette smoke is safe”, implying you’ll get cancer from just one whiff, along w/smoking bans OUTSIDE, the smoke-nazi crowd loses credibility.


14 posted on 07/21/2011 6:20:14 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: tacticalogic
It’s gotten to the point where anybody with a clue has realized the government has lied to them so many times they don’t believe anything they say any more.

Yeah. That 'big tobacco' settlement a couple of decades ago was nothing more than extortion. The resulting funds were supposed to be used in anti-smoking endeavours; however, most state and local governments used their share for other purposes.

That settlement was a big government scam.

==

Ironically, just last week was an FR thread about a city that was reducing the cigarette tax in an attempt to generate more revenue -- by giving people an incentive to buy cigarettes.

The issue has always been a double-edged sword -- encourage people to quit for health reasons and revenue for social causes plummets; raise taxes to support social causes and people find other alternatives or quit smoking and revenue plummets.
15 posted on 07/21/2011 6:24:21 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: markomalley
"No state is free from the unique impact of mental and substance use disorders,

And this had exactly what to do with tobacco smoking?

The only folks with substance abuse issues and mental disorders are the people conducting these so-called "studies."

16 posted on 07/21/2011 6:25:55 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: TomGuy

The last pack of Winstons I bought cost me $.50.

I’d been thinking about quitting. I moved from red Winstons to Winston Lights to Winston Ultra Lights in the white package. The ultra lights had so many perforations in the filter it was like I was drawing mostly air.

I was up to a couple packs a day, on the road quite a bit. I got home on a Thursday and caughed myself awake early Friday AM. I went out to the kitchen for a smoke and found the carton empty. Out to the car for my backup pack. Nope.
Found my shirt and there were two ciggies in the pack. I smoked my next to last and pledged I would smoke my last one after breakfast the next morning.
I think it was a bit of self-hypnosis because I never smoked again.

I didn’t tell anyone about the new me. About two months into my smoke free life a friend noticed and asked how long I’d been off the butts. By then, I was over the worst of it and I got support from my buddies. It felt pretty good.
It was a full five years before I quit reaching into my shirt pocket...


17 posted on 07/21/2011 6:36:55 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: laconic

I remember an ad for a cigarette called “101’s”. They had a nifty jingle to the words...”one silly millimeter longer, one oh ones, a silly millimeter longer, one oh ones...”


18 posted on 07/21/2011 6:37:38 AM PDT by albie
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To: fruser1

Though most people aren’t up on the science, the second-hand smoke campaigners blew up their own credibility years ago.

The EPA funded a massive study of the health effects of second-hand smoke, establishing in advance, as is usual, the criteria that would determine whether effects were present.

When the numbers came in, they showed little or no effect in most cases, consistent with classic toxicology in which “the dose is the poison.”

So the EPA impounded the findings and reworked the statistical criteria to show negative results anyway. Based on their final findings, second-hand smoke would have to be MORE toxic than first-hand smoke to have the effects claimed. Despite a concentration at least two orders of magnitude less.

When this “scientific” chicanery is pointed out, people at the time and since just don’t care. After all, it’s in a good cause.

Personally, I’ve never smoked and I much prefer the cleaner air in restaurants and bars today. But lying about science to promote an agenda, no matter how desirable, is a very bad idea.


19 posted on 07/21/2011 6:43:13 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Arm_Bears

REFER MADNESS!
Overbearing, exaggerated and hysterical campaigns amuse the youth!


20 posted on 07/21/2011 6:47:33 AM PDT by cartoonistx
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