Posted on 07/21/2011 11:39:55 AM PDT by maddog55
Job security is hard to come by for many Americans — but not for federal employees, USA Today reports.
Rather than poor performance, misconduct or layoffs, death is the primary threat to job security in the federal government, the paper reports. Only 27 of 35,000 federal attorneys were fired last year. None was laid off. Death claimed 33.
The job security rate for all federal workers was 99.43 percent last year, and nearly 100 percent for those on the job more than a few years.
John Palguta, former research chief at the federal Merit System Protection Board, told USA Today that the data underestimates how poor performers are weeded out. Some federal workers quit before they are fired, Palguta said.
"The notion that you can't fire federal workers is a myth because we do it. But it doesn't happen frequently," he said.
Read more on Newsmax.com: Death More Common Than Layoff in Fed. Agencies Important: Do You Support Pres. Obama's Re-Election? Vote Here Now!
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We’re paying for federally funded retirement homes?
This one was beaten to death yesterday.
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Does the government have any method to officially determine if an employee is dead?
When they don't turn in their payroll time-card?
Government worker or the story?
I did a search prior to posting and nothing came up..
When they don't turn in their payroll time-card?
No, no, no.... When they stop paying their union dues.
How do you know if a gov’t employee is dead?
They don’t call in sick anymore....
Every Federal Agency ought to have a “drop dead” date set at its inception by which it closes down
Recently here in California, a PE died at her desk and it wasn’t discovered for the best part of a week that she was, in fact, dead, and not just napping at her desk.
Recently here in California, a PE died at her desk and it wasn’t discovered for the best part of a week that she was, in fact, dead, and not just napping at her desk.
That title almost made me laugh. I say almost because my first night on the job in a federal installation was rather dramatic when one man who had put his head down on his desk during the lunch period failed to go back to work when the whistle blew...because he was dead. Quite a startling beginning to my career.
Nice! You win all known threads.
This is the usual poorly-reseached article about federal employees.
First, The “administrative” agencies presently recruit college graduates who meet the Distinguished Scholar criteria. Law Enforcement, DOD, scientific, legal fields have their own specific criteria.
Today, few clerical or blue-collar positions exist in the Federal Government. This is due to the advancement of EDP systems in all agencies.
Second, new federal employees are probtionary for their first 3 years. A percentage are terminated in those 3 years.
A higher persentage voluntarily leave an agency for numerous reasons, personal and professional.
Three, tenured employees usually last for a career, as is true outside of government. A percentage are terminated for poor performance, violations of law and regulations, or “for the good of the service”. Some do resign/retire before action can be taken against them.
I’ve worked in several federal agencies in which I dealt with state and municiple agencies. In my experience, federal employees are generally better than state and local government employees.
As with any human endeavor, there is that 2 percent who are below average.
3 verbal warnings, followed by any number of counseling sessions, followed by 1 warning letter, followed by 1 official reprimand, followed by 5 days suspension with pay, followed by 30 days suspension without pay.... after all that you may optionally poke them with a stick!
Circa 1983 the Congress “fixed” Social Security once and for all, they said. Federal retirees loose 66% of their benefits under SSI and pay tax on the rest. Medicare was and is worse than the Federal Health Insurance. Federal employees paid, in 1983, 1.3 of their gross salary for Medicare (which they did not need) in addition to health insurance. Federal employees pay about 1/3 rd of the total cost of the insurance.
Congress gets a FULL pension after only ONE TERM! YOU PAY FOR THAT, they don't. Do they talk of reducing their burden on the citizens?
Proposed reduction of the Health Insurance payments by the government WILL make it unaffordable eventually forcing government employees into OBAMACARE. Sic, the Republicans have no intention of repealing Obamacare but funding it with Medicare and Reductions in Health Benefits/Payments. Congress is playing you all for fools once again.
Unlike 401Ks and fully funded retirement programs, Federal employees had the honor to pay Fed., City and State taxes on those “deductions”. Their pension contributions were supposed to be paid interest and matched (NOT)
Death? Well annuitants, have the honor of leaving the balance of their contributions to Uncle Sam, even if they do not collect a penny.
BTW the Federal Pension Fund, unlike SSI, Medicare etc is FULLY FUNDED, made a burden by the politicians who spent the money. Congress spent the money, replaced with bonds to line their pockets and get reelected.
I love GOP class warfare and Government theft. If you do not like an agency or a program, get rid of it, the workers paid for their benefits. Taking that money for whatever reason is theft. If it is a tax, then tax everyone.
Generally, I do not like attorneys, but most government attorneys are dedicated and are hard working intelligent people. Like many of the rest of us they could earn more than their salary in Pvt industry based on their fields, such as tax, prosecution, SEC etc.
Be prepared for more BS from Congress to justify past and future theft.
I work with federal employees daily and if they cut man power 50% I doubt I’d see any loss of productivity. Poor performance and blatant incompetence is usually grounds for promotion which is the only way to get rid of people in a hurry otherwise you spend years laying out the documentation needed to get rid of a government (AFGE Union) employee.
There’s over 206,000 so called blue collar federal wage service employees.. no small number but far less then the other pay categories I’ll agree.
From February 2000 to January 2006, median years in tenured federal service dropped from 11.5 years to 9.9 years.
....there is that 2% percent who are below average.
I’ll disagree there and say it’s closer to the low teens. State and local it’s probably much higher.
Thanks for adding clarity to this post. What you say makes perfect sense, I no longer trust the GOP or their bedfellows the Dims.
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