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J Street Poll: Obama's Jewish support tops Republicans
jpost.com ^ | 7/21/11 | HILARY LEILA KRIEGER JERUSALEM POST CORRESPOND

Posted on 07/21/2011 1:54:35 PM PDT by Nachum

Majority of US Jews disapproves of Obama's Arab-Israeli conflict policy; separate poll shows Muslims blame West for domestic problems.

WASHINGTON – US President Barack Obama handily defeats his current Republican presidential opponents among Jewish voters, according to a poll put out by J Street Thursday.

At the same time, the majority of American Jews disapproves of his handling of the Arab-Israeli conflict, the poll found.

Obama currently enjoys 63 percent of the American Jewish vote compared to 24% for Mitt Romney and 67% when facing off against Michele Bachmann, who received 19% support, according to the poll.

Romney, the former governor of Massachusetts, and Bachmann, a Minnesota Congresswoman, are leading polls of announced contenders for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination.

Polling in 2008 showed Obama with a similar lead over his Republican competitor John McCain, though he ended up garnering 78% of the Jewish vote according to exit polls.

The J Street poll also showed much higher Jewish approval ratings for Obama than most other American constituencies, finding that 60% approve of the way he is handling his job. An aggregate of other polls shows that his national approval ratings are in the mid-40s.

(Excerpt) Read more at jpost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2011polls; bhojobapproval; bhomiddleeast; j; jewishvote; pollobamas; street
63% now- ...it was 78% in 2008
1 posted on 07/21/2011 1:54:44 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Predictable...and idiotic.


2 posted on 07/21/2011 1:59:21 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Nachum
When it comes to Jews voting Republican, the only poll I'll believe is election day. Way too many of these “Jews are finally waking up” stories that turn out to be meaningless. This article lays out all the reasons for frustration. Jews disagree with Obama’s positions but are going to vote for him anyway because — God forbid — they can't vote for those Republican Christian Conservative Nazis. I hate to say it but many secular Jews (emphasis on secular) will never vote Republican because of their prejudices.
3 posted on 07/21/2011 2:00:47 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Nachum

Jews: He is killing us ,but we love his minority status.


4 posted on 07/21/2011 2:03:06 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer

American joos hate Israel.


5 posted on 07/21/2011 2:04:22 PM PDT by max americana (FUBO NATION 2012 FK BARAK)
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To: Nachum
Color me surprised. ............Do I need the sarcasm tag?
6 posted on 07/21/2011 2:05:25 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

Jews are liberals first—Remember what Rush says about liberals.


7 posted on 07/21/2011 2:05:57 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (I'll have what the gentleman on the floor is drinking.)
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To: Nachum

I’m one of the rare conservative jews and I will never, ever, for the life of me understand why jews vote democrat.


8 posted on 07/21/2011 2:06:13 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (if there were a little more of me around we'd all be better off.)
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To: Nachum

Obama will NEVER lose American Jews. If they didn’t turn away from him when he told Israel to commit suicide, they will NEVER turn away. Jews are a lost cause. Israel means less to them than Marxism does- simple as that.


9 posted on 07/21/2011 2:07:56 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Personal Responsibility
I’m one of the rare conservative jews and I will never, ever, for the life of me understand why jews vote democrat

I'm not jewish and I will never, ever, for the life of me understand why jews vote democrat.

10 posted on 07/21/2011 2:10:13 PM PDT by libertylover (The problem with Obama is not that his skin is too black, it's that his ideas are too RED.)
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To: Nachum

Hold on folks - this is from J STREET. The false-flag “pro Israel” group that is actually a Soros backed anti-Israel group. Propaganda to try to convince Jews that Obama is still worthy of their support. Don’t take it as gospel or use it to rant about Jews just yet.


11 posted on 07/21/2011 2:10:28 PM PDT by rockvillem
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To: max americana

Hard to say, but evidentiary you are right.

They certainly do not appear to hold any loyalty to their religious brethren.

American Jews for some reason have always felt some sort of sympathetic loyalty to blacks.

More so than they do to Israel IMO.


12 posted on 07/21/2011 2:10:32 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: jmaroneps37

I know that if a Jewish individual is working for a union company they almost have to vote with the Unions. That’s part of the problem..... Additionally there are many Jewish people here in the states who see nothing wrong with dividing Jerusalem, nor giving the palestinians their own state. Many are liberals here and so natural they vote democratic...unfortunately...and they do tend to lean toward socialism.

Now that’s just those I’ve spoken with and know, they are afraid to vote against who the union is supporting.


13 posted on 07/21/2011 2:13:34 PM PDT by caww
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To: Nachum; Alamo-Girl
Obama currently enjoys 63 percent of the American Jewish vote....

Well, I gather this means either (1) American Jews don't care about Israel — or Jerusalem — anymore; or (2) They are simply living in a state of total cognitive dissonance, probably under the influence of untenable ideas produced by the contemporary Kultursmog. (I.e., progressive ideology. Talk about worshipping a "false God before Me!!!"]

Read: The Jewish "majority" in this poll is totally, insane, deranged.... They actually seem to be quite "un-Jewish." What happened???

Which probably means that the defense of Jerusalem against the Islamist jihaddi hegemonic onslaught (with forthcoming help from the UN) devolves to American Christians....

But one suspects that so many American Jews — maybe even the majority — detest American Christians, especially the Evangelicals.... The latter are seemingly more committed to the idea of Jerusalem surviving under Israeli authority than most American Jews are.

I sure can't figure this out. The problem staggers the imagination....

Rabbi Daniel Lapin wrote an illuminating book on this topic: America's Real War.

But I suspect more Christians than Jews read it....

Thanks for posting this, Nachum!

14 posted on 07/21/2011 2:15:45 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through, the eye. — William Blake)
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To: Venturer

“Jews: He is killing us ,but we love his minority status.”

The Jews/Democrats love hate relationship reminds me of the battered whore that always comes back to the rotten pimp hoping that “he’ll change and things will get better”.


15 posted on 07/21/2011 2:15:55 PM PDT by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: Personal Responsibility

Glad you are!....My frineds in California are also Jewish and conservatives. But yes, I believe you are right, many are liberal here in the states.


16 posted on 07/21/2011 2:16:09 PM PDT by caww
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To: Nachum

And Jews are supposed to be the smartest people in the world.

Maybe in mathematics. Lotta Nobel prizes for physics for example. But as many people as hate them, and how they choose to deal with them as opposed to how they deal with evnagelical Christians, who are their frineds, well it makes you wonder.


17 posted on 07/21/2011 2:20:19 PM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man.)
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To: Venturer

The reason is because jews identify with the discrimination that blacks, as well as other people, experience.

However, they are aligning themselves with the party of discrimination and racism without even realizing it.

Yeah, I realize that jews have experienced discrimination, and I, as a white person, have also experienced it. It happens. People judge, categorize, paint with broad brushes, become prejudiced. Governments institutionalize reverse racism...I’m just gonna go ahead and say it, people in general are bigots whether they want to admit it or not.

One of the funniest proposals I’ve ever heard from government is to desegregate prisons. Good luck with that...they segregate themselves on purpose, wonder why...

But, I digress, jews better wake up fast, or they will experience it again in a real big way, because their collective bleeding heart is causing them to support the exact same people they encountered in Germany about 70 years ago, and I imagine the result of that will be history repeating itself.


18 posted on 07/21/2011 2:24:48 PM PDT by chris37 (representative)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

>Predictable and idiotic<

Yes, and perhaps hiding an unconcious death wish to boot.

Google The Grinding of America. Watch the trailer then order the 90 minute DVD. People who grew up after l945 have no clue as to how life would be under The New World Order. (Ie a combination of Socialism, Communism, Fascism, Mormonism and Islam>) They all need to watch this DVD.


19 posted on 07/21/2011 2:24:54 PM PDT by Paperdoll (NO MORE BUSHS!)
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To: Nachum

sad to say this , but....the great majority of good , decent and God fearing Jews are now living in Israel .

They need to send ‘missionaries’ back here to talk to their left behind Diaspora-ites .

The young Jews need to be de-Liberalfied in their education .
What will it take ? Don’t they know it IS possible to anger Jehovah to such an extent that He wreaks vast tribulation upon them for their stiff necked and idolatrous ways ?

It could happen again . Here ....Jews need to be extra careful , but they are not . Too many are haughty , proud and arrogant . They are not loyal to their God nor their own people and culture . God will judge them accordingly . Young and old . Careful....


20 posted on 07/21/2011 2:31:00 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Reform Judaism, which is the faith of most American religious Jews, is based on the theological perspective of Moses Mendelsohn, and is not much different from 19th Century Unitarianism, or for that matter modernist Christianity in any form. Protestant or Catholic. For them Scripture has little prescriptive authority, and its truth is regarded as more poetic than real. Socialism and political liberalism is as much a part of their creed as any notion of jews as God’s chosen people. They have supported Zionism as much, or more, for its belief that the Jews are entitled to a nation-state as much as the French, the English or the Germans,than for any real belief in the restoration of the ancient nation of Biblical times. Further, I don’t think that Orthodox Jews attach much significance to this idea of a nation state if it proves not to fulfill God’s will as stated in the Torah and the Writings. But better ask a Jew rather than this Christ who has a high regard for Jews but not a deep knowledge of their views of the matter.


21 posted on 07/21/2011 2:35:02 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Nachum
Polling in 2008 showed Obama with a similar lead over his Republican competitor John McCain, though he ended up garnering 78% of the Jewish vote according to exit polls.

Did you see the article about the Wall Street types who regret their vote for Hussein--and said they did so only because they hated beautiful Sarah Palin?

You can bet the same meme will be used this time around.

Very, very few people are THINKERS anymore. They are led by mere emotion and the pictures they see on TV.

22 posted on 07/21/2011 2:45:25 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Nachum
J Street is SOROS and anti_Israel.
23 posted on 07/21/2011 2:49:42 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Nachum

I bet Soros’ J Street could produce a poll saying most American Jews like to eat ham sandwiches on Yom Kippur.


24 posted on 07/21/2011 2:51:53 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Nachum

Exodus 32:9

New International Version (©1984)
“I have seen these people,” the LORD said to Moses, “and they are a stiff-necked people.

New Living Translation (©2007)
Then the LORD said, “I have seen how stubborn and rebellious these people are.

English Standard Version (©2001)
And the LORD said to Moses, “I have seen this people, and behold, it is a stiff-necked people.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
The LORD said to Moses, “I have seen this people, and behold, they are an obstinate people.

GOD’S WORD® Translation (©1995)
The LORD added, “I’ve seen these people, and they are impossible to deal with.

King James Bible
And the LORD said unto Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiffnecked people.

American King James Version
And the LORD said to Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiff necked people.

American Standard Version
And Jehovah said unto Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiffnecked people.

Bible in Basic English
And the Lord said to Moses, I have been watching this people, and I see that they are a stiff-necked people.

Douay-Rheims Bible
And again the Lord said to Moses: See that this people is stiffnecked.

Darby Bible Translation
And Jehovah said to Moses, I see this people, and behold, it is a stiff-necked people.

English Revised Version
And the LORD said unto Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiffnecked people.

Webster’s Bible Translation
And the LORD said to Moses, I have seen this people, and behold it is a stiff-necked people.

World English Bible
Yahweh said to Moses, “I have seen these people, and behold, they are a stiff-necked people.

Young’s Literal Translation
And Jehovah saith unto Moses, ‘I have seen this people, and lo, it is a stiff-necked people.


25 posted on 07/21/2011 3:04:55 PM PDT by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: Nachum

They have learned nothing from history. Nothing.


26 posted on 07/21/2011 3:23:22 PM PDT by Noumenon (The only 'NO' a liberal understands is the one that arrives at muzzle velocity.)
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To: Yaelle

I LOVED it when the Knesset told J Street to go pound sand!

It was a great moment in sports.


27 posted on 07/21/2011 3:39:50 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: LeoWindhorse
sad to say this , but....the great majority of good , decent and God fearing Jews are now living in Israel .

Just a point of information- There are huge orthodox Jewish communities in the US. These communities are the ones having the babies, sending $$ to Israel, and voting in blocs to support Israel here. Israel's Haredi (religious) are probably around 1/5th of the Jewish population in Israel. That would put them around one million souls.

The religious in the US probably just a little less than that. The difference is that the Reform and Conservative movements have completely different ideologies than than either the religious Jews (both here and there) and the secular Israelis who all must fight for Israel and recognize Obamsky as a clear and present danger to all Jews in Israel. Even (most of) the Israeli left in Israel realizes that Obama has been bad for Israel's Jews.

Many secular Jews here in the US are little better than than the Jews who defended the communists under the USSR when it comes to their brethren in Israel.

28 posted on 07/21/2011 3:49:52 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum
Fear not. That 15% gap since 2008 will fall in line.

Since 1916, Jews have voted overwhelmingly for Democrats up to 90%.

They always go for the most left wing candidate. Democrats lost support when someone was running on the Socialist Party ticket.

29 posted on 07/21/2011 3:50:17 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Coburn is a traitor. Obama loves the Gang of Six.)
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To: betty boop
Read: The Jewish "majority" in this poll is totally, insane, deranged.... They actually seem to be quite "un-Jewish." What happened???

This is what happens when the Reform movement made huge inroads into American Jewish life. It divorced God from Jews and substituted nonsensical meanderings. Soul-searching deprived Jews latched onto a variety of Godless causes trying to fill up the vacuum that was left. Some got into Yoga, some became Buddhists, and a lot converted to the 'church of the DemocRATic party'. We are now realizing the fruit born of these seeds.

30 posted on 07/21/2011 3:57:47 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Their approval or disapproval doesn’t matter. Come election day, American Jews will still overwhelmingly vote for the leftists, even if the ticket is Baal-Moloch, and their platform is simply “Destroy Israel and kill all of the Jews”.

Leftism is Jewish heroin, and American Jews are junkies.


31 posted on 07/21/2011 4:18:56 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Nachum

Do you think it also has anything to do with how far removed many American Jews are from horrors previous generations faced?

My mother’s side of the family in England dates back for hundreds of years. Generations have never experienced any persecution and my grandparents are leftists who only vote Lib Dem. I honestly have no clue how my mom turned out so conservative.

But, my paternal grandparents are (or were...they passed away) recent immigrants to America after fleeing persecution in the Soviet Union. I’m not the most observant Jew (much to the discontent of my father), but the stories they told and the pictures they showed are the reason why I, my siblings, and other family members are conservative.


32 posted on 07/21/2011 4:44:52 PM PDT by NikkiB
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To: NikkiB
Do you think it also has anything to do with how far removed many American Jews are from horrors previous generations faced?

One might thinks so, but there are many who suffered under Hitler or the USSR who blame God for their suffering. It is, in truth, a rational response to one of the age old questions of faith: "Why do the wicked prosper and righteous suffer?". Values are inculcated from parents, teachers, and clergy. In our case- Rabbis. Often, experiences of suffering can bring one to faith, but it is not necessarily so.

Actually, the golden calf is a valuable lesson (this week). The children of Israel saw the miracles at Sinai and yet still made the calf. This is our history. :(

33 posted on 07/21/2011 4:50:46 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

It’s funny. I didn’t even think about how experiences would push someone from their faith even though the sudden loss of my mother and paternal grandparents is why I’m not the most observant person. I lashed out hard when it happened, and I still carry a lot of anger, but I’ve been working my way back from the complete abyss. I hope other people can find their way back, but I won’t hold my breath.


34 posted on 07/21/2011 5:19:26 PM PDT by NikkiB
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To: Nachum

Cmon - this thread is based on a J STREET poll. Anyone who follows this stuff closely knows that they are false-flag anti Israel group sponsored by Soros.

I’m getting tired of people using these threads to tee off on Jews when there actually are some of us who are conservative Republicans Jews whose mission is to vote Obama out of office. He makes Jimmy Carter look like a piker when it comes to Jew hatred.


35 posted on 07/21/2011 6:52:00 PM PDT by rockvillem
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Thanks Nachum.
Majority of US Jews disapproves of Obama's Arab-Israeli conflict policy; separate poll shows Muslims blame West for domestic problems.

36 posted on 07/21/2011 7:26:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
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37 posted on 07/22/2011 5:18:00 AM PDT by SJackson (Normal people don't sit cross-legged on the floor and bang on drums, WI State Sen Glenn Grothman (R))
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To: Nachum; Yehuda; Zionist Conspirator; tedbel; Tzvi INN.com; Ari Bussel; Avi Kane; Eleutheria5; ...
Why would anyone take the results of any J Street poll seriously, knowing what J Street is all about? Did any one see the the strange methodology they used to find their Jewish respondents? It was clearly calculated to get the desired result: more support for "Osama" Obama than actually exists.

Shame on Hillary Lila Krieger (a lefty known to us from the past) and the Jerusalem Post for even covering this J Street publicity stunt as "news."

38 posted on 07/22/2011 6:00:47 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Personal Responsibility

These are Jews in Name Only. I don’t take them seriously and I can’t believe that the odious group J Street is still in existence. Eric Alterman from the Nation rag is a total jerk.


39 posted on 07/22/2011 6:03:21 AM PDT by juliej
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To: rockvillem
Cmon - this thread is based on a J STREET poll. Anyone who follows this stuff closely knows that they are a false-flag anti Israel group sponsored by Soros.

You hit the nail on the head!

40 posted on 07/22/2011 6:04:25 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Nachum

Very well said. And the majority of the Jews did not leave Egypt with Moses. The parallels with American Jews remain as a minority are righteous or do the right thing.


41 posted on 07/22/2011 6:05:17 AM PDT by juliej
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To: Venturer

Never again, eh?


42 posted on 07/22/2011 6:18:01 AM PDT by onedoug (If)
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To: Nachum

“J-Street - wolf in sheep skin

J-Street is pretending to be pro-Israel, pro-peace organization, however, the list of its donors includes a number of muslims, the founder, Soros, is anti-Israel, and J-Street activity demonstrates anti-Israel intends. The organizations advocates for division of Jerusalem, full support for Obama’s plan for Israel destruction including 1967 border, support for Goldstone report. In other words, J-Street is an advocate for elimination of the State of Israel. Their profound ignorance in Israel and ME history and international law is astonishing. Their only motivations are money and political position close to the US government. They change their rhetoric now not because it was wrong, but because they need Israel support to represent themselves for US Jewish community and get support for their nominations to the US Senate and Congress on the next elections. And who are their nominees: “Gang of 54” anti-Israel lawmakers who signed a letter to Obama asking him to press Israel hard for more concessions. Please, for the sake of Israel and Jewish people in Israel and US, do not give J-Street legitimacy to represent Israel, as this will lead to catastrophe.
J-Street is a gang of islamofascist whores with knowledge and education are limited to wahhaby school for muslim dummies. “

Comment on poll.


43 posted on 07/22/2011 6:56:05 AM PDT by ZULU (Lindsey Graham is a nanometrical pustule of pusillanimous putrescence)
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To: justiceseeker93; All

Polls of USA Jews should not determine USA policy towards Israel and Middle East. The entire USA population, including Christians who have a strong interest in preserving the Holy Land sites and insuring their continued open access to pilgrimages.


44 posted on 07/22/2011 7:20:20 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: LeoWindhorse

“They need to send ‘missionaries’ back here to talk to their left behind Diaspora-ites.”

We do, actually. Very actively.


45 posted on 07/22/2011 8:00:48 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: NikkiB
I’m not very far removed from the recent past. I grew up with grandparents who were survivors and I’m very involved with the care of those still living as well as being involved in Holocaust education. I think as a whole, people my age under similar circumstances are more conservative than our peers.

I know many people here aren’t going to understand this, but the actual survivors in my family where/are democrats. This has a lot to do with specific events going on in the US when they first arrived. They did refuse to vote for Obama although they would have voted for almost any other democrat.

I know that I vote as an American first not a Jew. That does not mean I do not support Israel. I know both conservative and liberal Jews who do the same. I’ve worked with Jews all over the political spectrum to raise money for school buses, ambulances, tree planting, and Israeli bonds for Israel.

Israel is not going to let American politics or J Street lobbying destroy it.

46 posted on 07/22/2011 8:56:06 AM PDT by GenerationY
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