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Defense Secretary Leon Panetta to certify that gays can serve openly in the armed services
AP/Buffalo News ^ | 7/21/11

Posted on 07/21/2011 3:40:38 PM PDT by markomalley

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta to certify that gays can serve openly in the armed services

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That's all there is for now.

May God have mercy on His remnant left in this perverse land.

1 posted on 07/21/2011 3:40:47 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Maybe this was another bullet Gates wanted to dodge.


2 posted on 07/21/2011 3:43:05 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: markomalley

Is this his first official act as Sec’y of Defense? His nametag should read “The Prince of Darkness!!”


3 posted on 07/21/2011 3:45:02 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: elpadre

he can’t defy a lawful order given by the sitting president. there isn’t much else to say about it as far as his involvement in this goes.


4 posted on 07/21/2011 3:51:30 PM PDT by RC one (DO NOT RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT!)
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To: markomalley

Another distraction while the budget negotiations are going on.


5 posted on 07/21/2011 3:52:22 PM PDT by kabar
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To: markomalley

So, the queers have gotten what they wanted.

They will rue the day.


6 posted on 07/21/2011 3:53:31 PM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "p" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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To: elpadre

Will he be pinning on rainbow colored ribbbons for all the self proclaimed gays?


7 posted on 07/21/2011 3:54:07 PM PDT by JoanneSD (TEA PARTY VERSES TEE TIME)
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To: markomalley

And the first lawsuit for some kind of rights violation begins in. . . .


8 posted on 07/21/2011 3:59:17 PM PDT by famousdayandyear
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To: markomalley

Does this mean that a$$less chaps will now become an issued uniform item?


9 posted on 07/21/2011 3:59:47 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Those who trade land for peace will end up with neither one.)
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To: markomalley


10 posted on 07/21/2011 4:01:52 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: markomalley

Swords are being sharpened all over the World.


11 posted on 07/21/2011 4:04:46 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: markomalley

bump that


12 posted on 07/21/2011 4:05:03 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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Defense Secretary Leon Panetta to certify that gays can serve openly in the armed services

Yeah, I have no doubt they could serve openly at almost any job function in the Military that they attempted.

The question our beloved; compromised media won't ask is why the VOLUNTEER Military which is over-overwhelmingly straight/normal has to be forced to put up with that b.s.

Tell ya a quick story. Dipshit in my platoon (back a couple decades) once got hammered and brought a woman back to the open squad bay and we all woke up at reveille with her there. You may think Marines wouldn't care; we did. What little privacy/sanctitude we had was violated. Think on that for a bit

/still against BEQ's.

13 posted on 07/21/2011 4:08:53 PM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: markomalley

Leon’s Lovers or Panetta’s Pretties? The poor straight guys are sure going to catch hell over this perverted nonsense.


14 posted on 07/21/2011 4:09:01 PM PDT by Gator113 (Palin 2012, period.....)
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To: markomalley

What ever happened to the defense authorization bill amendment Republicans added that required all armed forces division chiefs would have to sign off as well?


15 posted on 07/21/2011 4:12:48 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: RC one

“he can’t defy a lawful order given by the sitting president.”

Who said the “sitting president is eligible to give said order, and if ineligible to sit as president, is said order then lawful?


16 posted on 07/21/2011 4:13:07 PM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: RC one

Sure he can defy it. All he needs to do is resign. But he’s a Leftist, so he’s in favor of this policy.


17 posted on 07/21/2011 4:15:44 PM PDT by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: roaddog727

“Who said the “sitting president is eligible to give said order, and if ineligible to sit as president, is said order then lawful?”

A question I have asked many for the last two years concerning our President. If his presidency is illegitimate then should he not be held accountable for military KIAs due to orders he has given. People want to downgrade the importance of his birth certificate and his legitimacy as President, but there are serious ramifications here if it is discovered he is not eligible to be President thus giving unlawful orders that result in the deaths of many military service members.


18 posted on 07/21/2011 4:24:03 PM PDT by Lynn
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To: markomalley

The reason Hussein chose him.


19 posted on 07/21/2011 4:27:26 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: kabar
Another distraction while the budget negotiations are going on.

But of course!

20 posted on 07/21/2011 4:30:29 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Coburn is a traitor. Obama loves the Gang of Six.)
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To: Lynn

“A question I have asked many for the last two years concerning our President. If his presidency is illegitimate then should he not be held accountable for military KIAs due to orders he has given. People want to downgrade the importance of his birth certificate and his legitimacy as President, but there are serious ramifications here if it is discovered he is not eligible to be President thus giving unlawful orders that result in the deaths of many military service members.”

Bingo.

AS well as every thing else he has done in his official capacity as POTUS, to include appointments, nominations, bills, laws, treaties, name it.


21 posted on 07/21/2011 4:35:46 PM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: markomalley

Don’t drop the soap.


22 posted on 07/21/2011 4:37:49 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: RC one

It’s in his discretion to say that doing so would have a negative effect on retention and recruitment. But he won’t, because he’s a Progressive.


23 posted on 07/21/2011 4:46:03 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: markomalley

I wonder how the Taliban would react to being “engaged” by the 5th Gay Battalion?


24 posted on 07/21/2011 5:02:52 PM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: roaddog727
Who said the “sitting president is eligible to give said order, and if ineligible to sit as president, is said order then lawful?

well no one with any authority in our Government has said Obama is not eligible to be President. I happen to personally believe Obama is ineligible but who am I but just a FReeper? I am not aware of a single member of Congress making the case he is not eligible. So from a pragmatic standpoint your statement is meaningless. The solution is not to expect the Military to disobey legal orders but for us to seek impeachment and we all know that won't happen.

25 posted on 07/21/2011 5:06:01 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: markomalley
May God have mercy on His remnant left in this perverse land.

One day there may come a Belisarius, but by then, as it was in the past, it will be too late.

26 posted on 07/21/2011 5:10:22 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: markomalley

I’m glad I retired before it was mandatory.


27 posted on 07/21/2011 5:14:54 PM PDT by mortal19440
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To: mortal19440

“Donut Donny”


28 posted on 07/21/2011 5:22:12 PM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: RC one; xzins; wagglebee
he can’t defy a lawful order given by the sitting president. there isn’t much else to say about it as far as his involvement in this goes.

Panetta is not a soldier. He can tell Obama to pound sand on any order he issues. Obama can fire him. That's about it. But Panetta is not bound by any order Obama issues.

If Panetta thought this was an order that would harm the military, he would be duty bound to tell Obama that he is not going to carry it out. Then Obama would have to fire him and appoint a new lackey to carry out his vile orders.

29 posted on 07/21/2011 5:23:13 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o)
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To: markomalley

I hate this. But the teachers unions have been promoting this for 10 years. The teens today think it’s normal. I’m going to be an 80 year old grandma and I’m going to be looked at as a racist 80 year old grandma back in the 70’s. The only difference is, I’m not F’ing my same sex partner. Perversion is prevision.

“Hello, my name is Sue, and I’m a hetro”. Who cares?


30 posted on 07/21/2011 5:52:47 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: fwdude

“What ever happened to the defense authorization bill amendment Republicans added that required all armed forces division chiefs would have to sign off as well?”

They signed off on it about 2 weeks ago.


31 posted on 07/21/2011 5:54:42 PM PDT by Hawk720
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To: kabar

Which branch of the Armed Forces did you serve?


32 posted on 07/21/2011 5:56:44 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: markomalley

Four more years and the draft will be debated to be reinstated.


33 posted on 07/21/2011 5:57:24 PM PDT by hattend (Its a matter of public record that I did not go to Harvard Law School, but I can add. - Sarah Palin)
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To: Huskrrrr

You’ll never wield a sword. Get real, Europe is all gay. You’re going to sit at your comfy desk and post comments on an internet site. “Conservatives” have a lot of bravado. Are you really going to fight this fight?


34 posted on 07/21/2011 5:57:26 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: 2nd Bn, 11th Mar
"They will rue the day"

Thank you. Considering your screen name I trust you.

35 posted on 07/21/2011 5:59:32 PM PDT by AGreatPer (Support the troops. Every Friday night at Walter Reed.)
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To: Hawk720

So is every branch leader going to confirm and sign off that the repeal will not harm the military. I thought two of the armed service branch chiefs were wary of this?


36 posted on 07/21/2011 6:00:14 PM PDT by fwdude
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To: markomalley

I can’t wait for the first headline “Gay PFC killed in a ‘friendly fire’ incident in Afghanistan.


37 posted on 07/21/2011 6:00:50 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Exactly right, the ranks will take care of their own. There will be a lot of accidents now. Lots of queers will be going home in plastic bags.


38 posted on 07/21/2011 6:04:03 PM PDT by Concho (-)
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To: fwdude

Apparently they all have already signed off. According to the AP:

“His decision, which was expected, comes two weeks after the chiefs of the military services told Panetta that ending the ban would not affect military readiness. Dismantling the ban fulfills a 2008 campaign promise by President Barack Obama, who helped usher the repeal through Congress and signed it into law late last December.”

http://news.yahoo.com/ap-sources-panetta-ok-end-military-gay-ban-224823254.html


39 posted on 07/21/2011 6:06:42 PM PDT by Hawk720
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To: Concho
Lots of queers will be going home in plastic bags.

Ya think?

Can a corpsman refuse to touch a gay soldiers blood?

40 posted on 07/21/2011 6:11:05 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Huskrrrr

Oh yeah...If you are China, you are warming up the tanks and planes...


41 posted on 07/21/2011 6:17:47 PM PDT by Fedupwithit ("The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants" -Albert Camus)
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To: markomalley

The legislature should just go home since this administration doesn’t need them to pass/repeal laws anymore.


42 posted on 07/21/2011 6:24:24 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The liberal press applauded when the NY Times hacked Newt Gingrich's phone calls.)
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To: wagglebee

PING


43 posted on 07/21/2011 6:25:47 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (The liberal press applauded when the NY Times hacked Newt Gingrich's phone calls.)
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To: markomalley
Of course they can. That's not the issue. The issue is whether or not it is wise policy to permit them to serve openly. In my opinion, it is not.
44 posted on 07/21/2011 6:32:37 PM PDT by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: hattend
Four more years and the draft will be debated to be reinstated.

Recruitment and retention rates are currently at record highs in all four branches of service.

45 posted on 07/21/2011 6:49:06 PM PDT by Gena Bukin
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To: markomalley

Damn that commie.


46 posted on 07/21/2011 6:57:45 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Mr. Weiner...Don' t Tweet your meat. It's too late to delete!)
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To: RC one; P-Marlowe

I agree with Marlowe. There is nothing in the US Constitution that says the Secretary of Defense has to obey orders from the president.

The SecDef is a civilian...he is not military.

Like Marlowe says, Obama can nominate a replacement for Panetta, which should indicate his services are no longer needed. I would take that as being fired, but getting into the weeds, the Constitution really doesn’t deal with relief from an appointment, with the possible exception of impeachment and “good behavior.”


47 posted on 07/21/2011 7:03:29 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: markomalley
FWIW, I will say this again. I think the number of homosexuals serving in the military will decrease over the next couple of years. The problem will be for the leftist freaks to decide on whether to ignore it or spin lies for it.
48 posted on 07/21/2011 7:03:50 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: markomalley
Heh, Article 125 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice says if they do it, they will be discharged.
49 posted on 07/21/2011 7:22:11 PM PDT by Traveler59 ( Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: Michael Barnes

So did he get the “soap in a pillow case” treatment (i.e. Full Metal Jacket)?

I woulda been mighty pissed as well. You hold sacred what little privacy you got.


50 posted on 07/21/2011 7:25:37 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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