Skip to comments.US lets nuclear genie out of bottle
Posted on 07/22/2011 7:19:18 AM PDT by T.O.K.
In the hit movie, Raiders of the Lost Ark, the Nazis coveted the ark because they believed that an army carrying the ark before it would be invincible. Interestingly, from 1945 until 1949, we Americans developed a revolutionary new weapon, which was equivalent to the Ark of the Covenant in that popular movie. An American army, carrying the nuclear ark before it, could have easily conquered all mankind had we chosen to.
At the very least, as Gen. Eisenhower remarked in 1946, If we were ruthlessly realistic, we would not permit any nation with whom we are not firmly allied to possess or develop atomic weapons.
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It should say commie bastards like Oppenhiemer lets nuclear genie out of the bottle. He wasn’t the only one helping Russia either.
“I was struck by the reference to Lincoln and the Maryland succession attempt.”
I don’t view Lincoln as great defender of American freedoms, but rather, as the father of a bullying Federal government.
The leftist spies meant the Soviets got the Bomb more quickly than they otherwise would have.
If there had been no leftist spies they would still have gotten it, would have just taken a little more time.
Unless you believe the laws of physics aren’t as accessible to commies as to anybody else.
...or to Nazis.
If Hitler had found the genie first....
And if NOBODY had found the genie, then WWII would've turned the Pacific red, and the cold war would have gone hot conventionally in the 50's and devastated half the planet.
In the Race for the Bomb the Nazis had the immense handicap of their racialist ideology.
A very large number, possibly a majority, of the scientists important in the Manhattan Project were refugees from Nazi Europe. With other policies many of them might have been happy to work for Hitler.
There was also a strong undercurrent in Nazi ideology of disdain for “Jewish science,” which was basically all advanced physics.
I am amazed by the number of people who don’t seem to realize we owe the comparative peace since 1945 mainly to the Bomb. As you say, without it we would probably have had WWIII in the fifties.
And possibly IV, V and VI by now.
Actually, Oppenheimer didn’t do anything such thing. It was Klaus Fuchs, the Rosenbergs, David Greenglass and Anatoli Yatskov...
If the Constitution is to mean anything we cannot tolerate “ends justifying the means” action by any President - Lincoln, Nixon, Bush, Clinton, Reagan, Obama. Conservatives who complain about Obama trashing the Constitution who will then turn around and justify a “conservative” President attacking another country without Congressional approval are hypocrites. Laws and agreements either have meaning or they don’t.
But there were leftist spies like the Rosenburgs and they did change the course of history.
What if, what if, what if.....
It should also be mentioned that our leaders are cowardly.
This, because one of their strictest rules is to forbid the assassination of “foreign leaders”. The *only* reason for this is to protect their own precious rear ends from assassination by enemy nations, as a quid pro quo.
The executive order that established this vital rule was put in place by Gerald Ford, and remains one of their most cherished rules.
But compare and contrast. The fictional character James Bond, though this was not said as such, had a primary role important enough for him to be issued a “License to Kill”. This role was to assassinate *anyone* who either threatened the nuclear weapons of the western powers; *and* to assassinate *anyone* who proliferated nuclear weapons.
This means that, in practice, Bond was licensed to kill anyone from the nuclear proliferator Mr. Kahn, of Pakistan, to those socialism crazed fruitcake nuns who take sledgehammers to the concrete of nuclear missile silos.
Oddly enough, the US now has a vast number of men who could, and would likely be willing, to perform such James Bond roles, in the US Special Operations Command (SOCOM). They could have been used to exterminate anyone in the ME who so much as mentioned nuclear weapons in an affirmative sense.
Their penetration into Iran right now is no doubt substantial, and were they to be used in an more assertive way, their nuclear program would now be in shambles, and their alleyways littered with the earthly remains of their nuclear physicists and technicians.
OTOH we benefited greatly from Nazi induced German fear of the Reds. The German scientists move to the US as much to get away from Stalin as from Hitler.
Kurchatov was independently reaching the same conclusions. The spy ring merely confirmed that he was on the right path, thus likely cutting the Soviets’ development time significantly.
Sakharov’s “dry” H-bomb, however, was developed independently.
Interesting little thing about Soviet nuclear development. In the early stages, nuclear weapons development was overseen by the NKVD/KGB, notably, Lavrenty Beria. Kurchatov was doing a demonstration run with the equivalent of Chicago Pile One, when Beria was present. The radiation counters were very active, however, Beria was complaining that he could not here anything, or feel any building vibration. Thus he thought Kurchatov was trying to pull a fast one, and maybe Kurchatov would have wound up in the GULAG. Beria nearly stormed into the room where the graphite pile was operating, but was prevented from doing so by the other scientists. If Beria had succeeded from entering the room, he would have been cooked by the radiation flux.
A goodly number of those who fled Hitler and worked at Los Alamos were Reds.
Being a communist did not protect you from Uncle Joe! He purged millions!