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Worse Than Gunwalker? State Dept. Allegedly Sold Guns to Zetas
Pajamas ^ | 7/22/11 | Bob Owens

Posted on 07/22/2011 12:10:58 PM PDT by ZGuy

Phil Jordan, a former CIA operative and one-time leader of U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration’s El Paso Intelligence Center, claims that the Obama administration is running guns to the violent Zetas cartel through the direct commercial sale of military grade weapons:

Jordan, who served as director of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration’s El Paso Intelligence Center in 1995, said the Zetas have shipped large amounts of weapons purchased in the Dallas area through El Paso.

Robert “Tosh” Plumlee, a former CIA contract pilot, told the Times he supported Jordan’s allegations, adding that the Zetas have reportedly bought property in the Columbus, N.M., border region to stash weapons and other contraband.

“From the intel, it appears that a company was set up in Mexico to purchase weapons through the U.S. Direct Commercial Sales Program, and that the company may have had a direct link to the Zetas.”

The U.S. Direct Commercial Sales program is run from the U.S. State Department’s Directorate of Defense Trade Controls. It regulates and licenses private U.S. companies’ overseas sales of weapons and other defense materials, defense services, and military training. This does not include the Foreign Military Sales (FMS) program, which authorized sales to foreign governments.

An El Paso Times article – as of now ignored by mainstream media — went into much more shocking detail:

“They’ve found anti-aircraft weapons and hand grenades from the Vietnam War era,” Plumlee said. Other weapons found include grenade launchers, assault rifles, handguns and military gear including night-vision goggles and body armor.

“The information about the arms trafficking was provided to our U.S. authorities long before the ‘Columbus 11′ investigation began,” said Plumlee, referring to recent indictments accusing several Columbus city officials of arms trafficking in conjunction with alleged accomplices in El Paso and Chaparral, N.M.

Jesús Rejón Aguilar, the number three man in the Zeta’s hierarchy, disclosed last week that the Zetas bought weapons in the United States and transported them across the Rio Grande. Mexican federal authorities captured Rejón on July 3 in the state of Mexico, and presented him to the news media the next day. His recorded video statement was uploaded on YouTube.

Jordan agreed with Plumlee’s allegations that the Zetas are operating in the Columbus-Palomas border.

Plumlee, who has testified before U.S. congressional committees about arms and drug trafficking, said the roads in Southern New Mexico provide smugglers easy access to Mexico’s highway networks.

Insight.org provides a map of the air-smuggling route originating in Dallas at Alliance Airport and ending in Columbus, New Mexico — a small town that has also been rocked by the arrests and guilty pleas of the town mayor and other elected officials who were running guns to a cartel safehouse, and then apparently into Mexico.

There is no direct link made as of yet between the Columbus, NM, officials case and the allegations of the Dallas-to-Columbus air smuggling route, but the possible connection should raise eyebrows.

If these allegations can be verified: what on Earth was the State Department thinking supplying the direct sale of military weapons to a cartel front company? Weapons that were then smuggled out of the very airport used by the Drug Enforcement Agency charged with bringing down the cartels?

Anthony Martin at the Examiner brings up one of the most damning and compelling questions that the State Department and Obama administration must answer if this story is true:

The program is set up so that the sale of U.S. guns to foreign entities involve direct negotiations with the governments of those countries purchasing the weapons. The description of the program specifically states that it regulates the sale of U.S. firearms to other countries or international organizations.

How, then, did a drug cartel purchase weapons through this program when it is neither an international organization nor a government?

At The Truth About Guns, Brad Kozak opines:

The ATF was not the only ones running guns to Mexico. Apparently the State Department was playing, too. And then consider this angle — was the State Department competing with the ATF for the hearts and minds of the Mexican drug trade?

If the ATF is supplying the Sinaloas (with Calderón’s tacit approval and/or help) and State is playing for the Zetas, where does that leave the rest of America?

It sounds like a fictional thriller, but considering what we’ve already learned of Operation Fast and Furious, the Justice Department, and the possibility of even more gunrunning operations (Operation Castaway) out of DOJ, is a rival program being run out of State really a bizarre accusation?


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1 posted on 07/22/2011 12:11:02 PM PDT by ZGuy
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To: ZGuy
The entire feral government is practicing Cloward-Piven.
2 posted on 07/22/2011 12:12:31 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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To: ZGuy
The State Dept.? That would be Hillary. No surprise at all.

ATF Whistleblower Speaks Out

Jun 30, 2011 - 6:15 - Vince Cefalu, who's being pushed out by the agency, discusses the botched gun operation

Fox News interview with senior agent Vince Cefalu. He says he has been terminated "along with dozens of others" (agents) due to their opposition to operation Fast and Furious. Says DoJ was intimately involved.

More Fox News video interviews with Vince Cefalu.

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Gunwalker: Smoking Gun Email?

An internal ATF email seems to support the assertion that Fast and Furious was a PR stunt for gun control.

PJM’s Bob Owens has long speculated that the primary reason for Operation Fast and Furious was to perpetuate the lie that 90 percent of illegal firearms in Mexico were from the United States.

Owens’ assertion was buoyed on Wednesday by internal ATF emails obtained by Townhall.com. One email reads:

"Can you see if these guns were all purchased from the same FfL and at one time. We are looking at anecdotal cases to support a demand letter on long gun multiple sales. Thanks Mark R. Chait Assistant Director Field Operations."

3 posted on 07/22/2011 12:14:01 PM PDT by TigersEye (Wranglers not Levis. Levi Strauss is anti-2nd Amendment.)
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To: ZGuy

Another liberal media “non event”.


4 posted on 07/22/2011 12:17:04 PM PDT by jdfromny (At what point are we officially "North Americans"?)
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To: ZGuy
Gun control nut Hellary Clinton?

Without a doubt I believe this is exactly what she would do.

All Oboingo appointed ringers are interchangeable.

5 posted on 07/22/2011 12:18:37 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee

Gun running ping!


6 posted on 07/22/2011 12:22:15 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: ZGuy
So what's new with our communists King Obama empire. Wasn't it his plan to destroy America? Nothing new here. Gun running to build an enemy to occupy what is left of America while he continues destroying from within. Typical communists agenda.
7 posted on 07/22/2011 12:22:32 PM PDT by Logical me
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To: All

Where is Hank Schrader when you need him?


8 posted on 07/22/2011 12:24:22 PM PDT by troy McClure
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To: ZGuy

I hope to never about Iran-Contra ever again.

I just dare them to bring it up.


9 posted on 07/22/2011 12:25:17 PM PDT by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: ZGuy

I wonder if one person who voted for obama has come to his senses and sees that he is deliberately trying to destroy this nation. I doubt it. They’ll believe to their dieing day he didn’t know anything about it.


10 posted on 07/22/2011 12:25:32 PM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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It sounds like the entire Obama administration is involved and doing everything they can to ensure that as many American weapons fall into the hands of criminals and murderers so that they will have proof that the American gun owner is at fault for the crimes and murders. So they can disarm the American public.

It's really mind boggling.

Mark

11 posted on 07/22/2011 12:26:04 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: ZGuy

for later


12 posted on 07/22/2011 12:30:38 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (I AM ISRAEL)
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To: troy McClure

In bed, buying rocks on the internet.


13 posted on 07/22/2011 12:31:19 PM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: wolfcreek
We need to elect Sarah Palin, so we can be sure all these complicit traitors find their way into Federally issued jumpsuits for long, sex-and-fun-filled stretches in the Big House.

;^\

14 posted on 07/22/2011 12:31:27 PM PDT by Gargantua (Sarah Palin 2012 ~ "Going Oval")
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To: ZGuy

For some reason the US governemnt is picking sides inthe drug war (maybe always have)

Almost 2000 La Familia members arrested:

http://www.statesman.com/news/local/la-familia-cartel-crackdown-yields-35-arrests-in-1633914.html


15 posted on 07/22/2011 12:33:16 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: ZGuy

Maybe Hillary starts singing for Issa & Grassley?


16 posted on 07/22/2011 12:36:21 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: All

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17 posted on 07/22/2011 12:37:57 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR as a platform to pimp your blog for hits!!!)
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To: ZGuy

Meanwhile the 0bama Admin. will not let American citizens buy Garands and M-1 Carbines returned by the South Korean govt.


18 posted on 07/22/2011 12:41:14 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
We live in interesting times.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

19 posted on 07/22/2011 12:41:24 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Joe Brower
I keep thinking about a Red Dawn scenario with armies coming up through the Rio Grand valley, for some reason.
20 posted on 07/22/2011 12:44:46 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: Joe Brower
I'm repacking my bug out gear this weekend. Gonna make sure everything is set just in case...

What times we live in... :-|

21 posted on 07/22/2011 12:51:04 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (explosive bolts, ten thousand volts at a million miles an hour)
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To: Joe Brower
We live in interesting times.
May we all live through them.
22 posted on 07/22/2011 12:51:52 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Joe Brower

“We live in interesting times.”

Hang onto your hat because I think they are about to get a lot more interesting.


23 posted on 07/22/2011 12:52:24 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ZGuy
“They’ve found anti-aircraft weapons and hand grenades from the Vietnam War era,” Plumlee said. Other weapons found include grenade launchers, assault rifles, handguns and military gear including night-vision goggles and body armor. “The information about the arms trafficking was provided to our U.S. authorities long before the ‘Columbus 11′ investigation began,” said Plumlee, referring to recent indictments accusing several Columbus city officials of arms trafficking in conjunction with alleged accomplices in El Paso and Chaparral, N.M.

Obviously more 'gunshow loophole' stuff. (/sarc, as if.)

24 posted on 07/22/2011 12:54:11 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: ZGuy
Okay, but what about the operations in Texas and Illinois? (Although the latter may have just been feeding one of these clearinghouses).

The whole "Iron River" meme had specific gun trafficking routes, and Southern California, Texas, and the Gulf States were on their list, as well as Illinois (Illinois?, home of Chicago Justice?) (not to mention Florida, New Mexico, and Arizona).

It would be perfectly fitting with the normal M.O. of these pukes to make sure that there were indeed firearms moving through all the 'problem areas', so my bet is that there are more ops involved.

25 posted on 07/22/2011 12:59:45 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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26 posted on 07/22/2011 1:08:04 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Guns don't kill people, the obama administration does. (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: Gargantua
Cain may not follow the establishment but Sarah is the ONLY potential president that would enact the rule of law on these scoundrels. The others would do what the establishment expects like G.W. Bush did re Bill Clinton's abuses and crimes and just move on. What a let down that was.
27 posted on 07/22/2011 1:22:48 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: Dead Corpse

A great reminder as I need to do the same. Question for comment what do other Freepers consider indespensible for their bugout bags? Do you have one for each family memeber? Are they all the same? Should I open this as a seperate discussion topic to prevent hijacking this thread?


28 posted on 07/22/2011 1:26:09 PM PDT by reed13
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To: ZGuy; Beckwith; LucyT; Fred Nerks; TigersEye

So this is Obama’s secret revolutionary Army? Time to run them out of NM and Arizona.


29 posted on 07/22/2011 1:33:06 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: reed13
Should I open this as a seperate discussion topic to prevent hijacking this thread?

I vote for that..I think it would be a timely topic. I am curious if folks have cash, junk silver & gold, mercury dimes, or such things in their bug out bags..Or if they just have food, katadyne filters, poncho..that sort of thing.

30 posted on 07/22/2011 1:54:54 PM PDT by sockmonkey
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To: ZGuy

That may explain how they are getting military weapons that are not sold over the counter.


31 posted on 07/22/2011 2:12:28 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: ZGuy

Um...isn’t this an impeachable offense? Worse than Watergate. Worse than Iran/Contra. Worse than any other past Democrat scandal?

Why the hell isn’t any Republican jumping on this?

Where is our leadership? Do we have ANYone in the Rep Party that has the nads to confront these traitors?


32 posted on 07/22/2011 2:24:37 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks ZGuy.


33 posted on 07/22/2011 2:24:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ZGuy

So basically “our “ government is arming the invaders across the border? WTF? When DO the border states tell the Feds to ^&ck off?!!!

Wake up guys!! The South Koreans sleep peacefully on their border with the Norks courtesy the US taxpayer and Ameican GI.
why can’t New Mexicans, Arizonans, Texans and Californians?!!


34 posted on 07/22/2011 2:31:38 PM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you do not, no explanation is possible")
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To: ZGuy; Nachum; MestaMachine

Thanks for the post Zguy.

Ping!!


35 posted on 07/22/2011 2:33:50 PM PDT by penelopesire (Let The Congressional Hearings Begin!)
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To: HiJinx

PING


36 posted on 07/22/2011 2:37:07 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: ZGuy

It’s truly incredible to what lengths anti-2A government control freaks will go to take firearms out of the hands of law-abiding Americans. They’re actually willing to give/sell weapons to drug cartels with full knowledge that those same weapons will be used against the law-abiding Americans they’re trying to disarm. Despicable.


37 posted on 07/22/2011 2:38:21 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: mo
The South Koreans sleep peacefully on their border with the Norks courtesy the US taxpayer and Ameican GI. why can’t New Mexicans, Arizonans, Texans and Californians?!!

Excellent question.

38 posted on 07/22/2011 2:44:48 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: ZGuy

YES!!!

GOODBYE HILLARY CLINTON..! AHHAHAHHAHAH!!!!

I’m laughing, here...!

This is the best news I’ve read all day....!!!


39 posted on 07/22/2011 2:53:22 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: ZGuy
Well that makes perfect sense if you are the CIA. You can't win the war on drugs. So set up your own little cartel in Mexico, arm it and equip it to take over most of the drug trafficking into the United States and use the money coming out of America to fund CIA operations world wide. Kind of like preserving U.S. money without having to vote for the tax and you control the drug trade by making a profit while you payoff the Mexican government and they pretend to fight drugs. No wonder our Government keeps that border open, they are making to much money off the American drug users. That is the truth of it, which is why fast and furious made sense to an already corrupt government!
40 posted on 07/22/2011 2:58:10 PM PDT by Mat_Helm
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To: ZGuy

WHOA! Totalitarian traitors. Absolutely NOTHING would surprise me coming from the Sociopath of State.


41 posted on 07/22/2011 3:00:21 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: ZGuy
DRUDGE WHERE IN HELL ARE YOU

Guess they have photos of him with barnyard animals? I'm mystified.

42 posted on 07/22/2011 3:07:27 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

With at least two separate arms smuggling deals to Mexican drug cartels, from two separate cabinet departments running them, this has to have White House knowledge/approval.

This is not a couple rogue agents making the same decision during the same administration without some guidance from the Oval Office.

This whole thing makes Watergate look like a clerical error.

People have died from direct illegal activity by this administration. People need to be prosecuted and imprisoned.

This is the most black-hearted, treacherous scandal I’ve EVER heard of —ever.


43 posted on 07/22/2011 3:09:58 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: ZGuy

Zetas Mexican drug cartel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Zetas_Cartel


44 posted on 07/22/2011 3:13:07 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: MestaMachine

Someone should post the Fox news original version of this article

http://nation.foxnews.com/guns/2011/07/22/el-paso-times-worse-gunwalker-state-dept-allegedly-sold-guns-zetas


45 posted on 07/22/2011 3:17:46 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: gaijin

Drudge has gone quiet on this since about the end of June.I don’t know why. I guess he will post a sirene when they are all impeached and sent to jail? Makes no sense.

DISCLAIMER to my last post PAJAMAS scooped this story and THEN Fox reported it.


46 posted on 07/22/2011 3:25:41 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

LOL I was just coming to tell you that. This is a big effing deal.


47 posted on 07/22/2011 3:45:07 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Guns don't kill people, the obama administration does. (Gunwalker Ping List))
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/gunrunner.htm


48 posted on 07/22/2011 3:47:41 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: ZGuy
Hot Air just posted a story about this Pajama's Media article. (Where's Drudge????)

Will Gunwalker morph into “Grenadewalker” soon?

49 posted on 07/22/2011 3:58:20 PM PDT by kara2008
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To: ZGuy

Why are they giving guns to sorority girls?


50 posted on 07/22/2011 4:00:23 PM PDT by Fledermaus (I'm done with political parties. The GOP is useless. Anarchy is perferable to this CRAP!)
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