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Obama ends gays in military ban
Associated Press ^ | July 22, 2011 | LOLITA C. BALDOR and ERICA WERNER

Posted on 07/22/2011 1:37:25 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Barack Obama has formally repealed the ban on gays serving openly in the military.

Administration officials say Obama on Friday signed a certification ending the 17-year-old "don't ask don't tell" policy.

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1 posted on 07/22/2011 1:37:27 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Waited for the Friday afternoon News dump I see. Wonder why they didn’t do this on a Tuesday morning in a Rose Garden ceremony. Isn’t he proud that he did this?


2 posted on 07/22/2011 1:39:55 PM PDT by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The left has finally gotten their wish. The destruction of our Military.


3 posted on 07/22/2011 1:40:08 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Waited for the Friday afternoon News dump I see. Wonder why they didn’t do this on a Tuesday morning in a Rose Garden ceremony? Isn’t he proud that he did this?


4 posted on 07/22/2011 1:40:18 PM PDT by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Being the CIC, would that make him part of the military?

Although there really isn’t a need, now we can ask him....straight or laced...


5 posted on 07/22/2011 1:41:11 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Does anyone with two brain cells have any doubt that Zero is homosexual?

*crickets*


6 posted on 07/22/2011 1:41:49 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Public schools = TSA: incompetent, abusive, anti-American. Why are we putting up with either one?)
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To: Tallguy

Hmmm you’d think he would have done that? I wonder why not?


7 posted on 07/22/2011 1:41:52 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
In January 2013, the newly inaugurated Republican president will issue an executive order banning gays from the military...

And then repeal every executive order issued by former President Obama.

8 posted on 07/22/2011 1:43:32 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Counting cadence now?

Swish, swish, swish, swish.


9 posted on 07/22/2011 1:44:15 PM PDT by Ole Okie (!!)
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To: ColdOne

This is going to be bad, just imagine the Pentagon under a “glitter” attack.


10 posted on 07/22/2011 1:45:32 PM PDT by izzatzo (Palin2012, she's one of us.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; Pyro7480

PERFECT timing by Obama:

LEAKED: U.S. defense officials deliberately skewed survey results to sway ‘Don’t Ask’ repeal
LifeSiteNews ^ | 07/22/2011 | Kathleen Gilbert

Posted on Friday, July 22, 2011 2:54:46 PM by Pyro7480

According to an explosive document, investigators from the U.S. military’s top investigative office found evidence that a Pentagon survey pivotal to the [DADT] repeal was engineered months prior to its release, and was deliberately skewed in later media leaks, with the intention of swaying Congress towards repeal despite opposition from combat troops.


11 posted on 07/22/2011 1:45:32 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2752514/posts

Wasn’t one of Zeros many promises to not touch the subject?
Yup, another Zero promise ‘kept or saved’.


12 posted on 07/22/2011 1:46:12 PM PDT by Darksheare (You will never defeat Bok Choy!)
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To: Tallguy

> Isn’t he proud that he did this?

I’m sure he is.


13 posted on 07/22/2011 1:46:51 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

It’s hard to believe that recruiting has gotten so bad that we now have to recruit sexual deviants to fill our military ranks. Pretty sad.


14 posted on 07/22/2011 1:47:47 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Hey Barry! Compromise this!!!)
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To: Cowboy Bob
"...January 2013, the newly inaugurated Republican president will issue an executive order..." Palin
15 posted on 07/22/2011 1:49:34 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Got nothing better to do, Timmy?.....


16 posted on 07/22/2011 1:49:54 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Free ThinkerNY; ColdOne; Tallguy

Politicians supporting repeal of DADT relied for cover on the DOD deceptive proclamation that 70% of service members see positive or no effect for repealing DADT. The poll was conducted after Congressional Representatives had voted for repeal of DADT. Therefore, only 29% responded by completing half or more of the questions, under the compelling logic that nobody really cared. DOD contacted equal numbers of reserve and active troops and spouses, but only 20% to 30% of those whose family member’s military specialty could place them in harm’s way. Also, nearly one third had never deployed. Supposedly all these responses provided valid information, even though people in base housing, civilian neighborhoods, and CONUS bureaucracies never experience firefights and IED’s.

The entire military exists to serve Marine and Army combat infantrymen. DOD accomplishes nothing of lasting significance until infantrymen walk the ground formerly held by an enemy, and well over half of those trigger-pullers opposed repeal. Only they understand the unimaginable totalitarian leadership and obedience demanded by their chaotic and brittle environments.

Military service deals with the issues of race and sex amid the consequent extraordinary restrictions of Constitutional freedoms unknown to the civilian world. Disinformation must therefore achieve equivalency for rejection of homosexual behavior with those discriminatory issues. That objective in turn relies for vindication on the 1973 American Psychiatric Association (APA) decision to remove homosexuality as a mental disorder from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual.

Removal followed two years Newsweek described as ongoing disruptive, chaotic attacks on psychiatrists and physiologists. Yet throughout this campaign, no academic papers arose at conferences refuting any previous research. Eventually sufficient under-votes and abstentions enabled a third of APA’s 17,000 plus membership to approve removal.

Next activists established a committee targeting leading researchers such as Dr. David Reuben, and Masters and Johnson to ensure perpetual sanctity for APA actions. No research papers would again confirm initial therapy success rates of 30% to 60 %, substantiating 7 of 10 homosexuals could eventually walk away from the lifestyle. Persistent activism over 37 years enabled ubiquitous infiltration of academia ensuring pre-ordained theses, approved research designs, suitable human data points, and enchanting statistical enhancements. The result has been social alchemy.

Psychology and psychiatry abandoned scientific rigor for popular acclaim. With homosexual studies freed from objective analysis, DADT repeal advocates relied upon base antidotal, emotional politics to dominate discrimination concerns. Advocates were free to avoid the realities of military operations characterized by sacrificial, primitive and intimate relations. Psychology and psychiatry were unwilling to demand a rigorous discussion of whether any mental disorders could be tolerated within the exceptional human structures needed to defeat enemies.

The Pentagon study never addressed the area of religious freedom, placing this form of discrimination for the first time among those restricted Constitutional guarantees inherent in military service. Previously the religious faith exception provided a critical foundation for surviving the grinding stresses and shattering experiences of warfare.

Basic theology explains why Jewish, Christian, and Muslim believers find their religious freedom evaporating with repeal. Followers of desert religions, who send their pastors into the chaplaincy and believers into military service, consider homosexual behavior unacceptable. It resides among the myriad sins entrapping fallen humanity.

For tens of millions “People of the Book” foundational Old Testament scholarship concludes homosexual relationships separate believers from God. When speaking of the character, identity, and purpose of God, He is spoken of as masculine, and all humans become feminine in relation to Him. Besides creating all things, God created heterosexual marriage as the earthy manifestation of the absolute unity and love He seeks with each person. Classical Semitic theology emphasizes identifying with God in spiritual intimacy, meaning any subsequent reasoning must proceed from that basic understanding.

Therefore after repeal, when believers reject homosexuality in counseling rolls and normal life activities, these people reside outside Constitutional boundaries guaranteeing religious freedom. They see themselves becoming guilty of at least cultural prejudice, if not criminality.

This debate veered into humanist social alchemy as a means to fabricate attachments to our Constitution and to dissemble concerning military operations. The primary issues of Constitutional speech and religious freedoms, and of whether any mental disorders can be tolerated within the exceptional human structures needed to defeat enemies were not addressed.


17 posted on 07/22/2011 1:50:38 PM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Now is the time for all gays serving in the military to finally come out of the closet!

After all, Obama has freed you to do so... right???

Give no mind to the officers on the sideline taking down names... it’s simply to encourage others to do the same.

After all, polls indicate that everyone in the military supports this historic change... so what could possibly go wrong?

Oh... just don’t forget to vote for your buddy in 2012.


18 posted on 07/22/2011 1:51:33 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Tax-chick

Does anyone with two brain cells have any doubt that Zero is homosexual?

*crickets*
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it doesn’t matter really, after all he’s done to destroy our country, but i agree he’s at least “bi”.

He’s supposedly appealing to women, went to Harvard, etc., yet no woman has EVER said she dated him, went to the H.S. prom with him, etc.
Larry Sinclair may be strange, but no one has caught him in any clear lies, (unlike Obama lying about his Mother not having health insurance).
His gay Pakistani roommate in California, moved near Columbia, even though he didn’t go there.
certainly there isn’t any proof. but, if i had to bet...


19 posted on 07/22/2011 1:51:33 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: Elendur

And don’t forget Frank Marshall Davis. Zero’s mother and grandparents deserve a lot of blame for turning him over to a Marxist pedophile.

You’re right, of course, that it’s his actions that really matter, irrespective of the psychological murk beneath.


20 posted on 07/22/2011 1:59:44 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Public schools = TSA: incompetent, abusive, anti-American. Why are we putting up with either one?)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The distruction of one more of America’s greatest institutions has now begun. Shortly, many will retire rather than remain. Others will not join and others will simply fade away. I hope that many will hold on thinking that in two years this will be reversed. If they do not, there will be a crisis in staffing within the military.


21 posted on 07/22/2011 2:01:05 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I don’t remember the House and Senate voting on the repeal.

Did They?

If not, how can Obama repeal a law debated and voted on by Congress years ago?


22 posted on 07/22/2011 2:04:19 PM PDT by hattend (Its a matter of public record that I did not go to Harvard Law School, but I can add. - Sarah Palin)
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To: taxcontrol
If they do not, there will be a crisis in staffing within the military.

Not really, the lefty ambition of bringing back the draft will be waiting in the wings.

23 posted on 07/22/2011 2:06:55 PM PDT by hattend (Its a matter of public record that I did not go to Harvard Law School, but I can add. - Sarah Palin)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

There is a reason men and women are separated in the US military.

Being in the armed forces is about coming together as a single unit to achieve objectives. It’s not a place for dating and hooking up.

People who are in love do stupid things and take needless chances. In combat situations, that can get people killed.

Case in point: Bradley Manning who leaked US military secrets to the entire world because he broke up with his boyfriend.


24 posted on 07/22/2011 2:19:32 PM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: Tzimisce

You are right, and the American people are wrong again. Can they ever learn?


25 posted on 07/22/2011 2:23:32 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Free ThinkerNY
President Blojama...

"Come out, come out wherever you are!"


26 posted on 07/22/2011 2:24:50 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The military isn’t having any problems with recruiting. This is just pandering to the LGBT community.


27 posted on 07/22/2011 2:29:05 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Tzimisce

Not to mention those that are openly gay serving in combat units. When they get captured, or sent in first etc. I suspect that this will be an experiment that doesn’t end well.


28 posted on 07/22/2011 2:29:18 PM PDT by Always Independent
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To: ColdOne

My son goes into the marines next month. I doubt that very many gays really want to join the military. The symbolism of this is disturbing. Don’t ask don’t tell really was very fair and this is just encouraging problems.


29 posted on 07/22/2011 2:30:21 PM PDT by juliej
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I am sure they will still be banned from wearing uniforms at political events though, like gay rights parades?? /s


30 posted on 07/22/2011 2:31:42 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Way to go Donothing In Chief! Now our "guys" in the military will have to worry about soldier x in the shower popping wood. You bunch of ignorant asses!

So on what basis were the female soldiers forbidden to be with us in our barracks? That one question leads to another one that will sum up why gays should not be allowed in the military; Is there any difference between girls showering with boys, and gay men showering with other men?

What a sham our government is when they say they performed extensive studies and interviews about the "gays in the military" subject. I guess that included asking soldiers if they had a problem with gays. In this politically correct screwed up world, what did you expect them to say? I hate gays? Place enough pressure on a society and you can count on getting the answers you want.(Do you like King Henry?)

31 posted on 07/22/2011 2:31:56 PM PDT by carolinacrazy (Bow to your sensei.... BOW TO YOUR SENSEI...... www.jackassdemocrats.com)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The American people are big supporters of this, especially on both coasts and the Great Lakes. In their view, they are “not bigoted” and have voted for this policy for many election cycles now. And there’s no going back. The people are true believers of big government programs and all the ramifications.


32 posted on 07/22/2011 2:32:03 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Free ThinkerNY; All

The 2012 National Defense Authorization Act NDAA is supposed to have language in it that ammends the UCMJ to legalize homosexual sodomy. We need to lobby the GOP members of congress to NOT let this go through.

IF the UCMJ is not ammended, then some chance might remain that a new CIC could reverse this nonsense.


33 posted on 07/22/2011 2:32:18 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If he can somehow be reelected, watch how quickly he restarts the draft.


34 posted on 07/22/2011 2:34:13 PM PDT by onedoug (If)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
The last two Democrat presidents:

WJC=Sodomy in The White House.
BHO=Sodomy in The Pentagon.
Great legacies.

Beware the Government Booty Call Complex

35 posted on 07/22/2011 2:35:10 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("Will Geico save you 15% on your insurance? Is Obama an evil Marxist tyrannical son of a bitch?")
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To: hattend

Congress voted on repeal in December or January. Remember Sen. Toomey of PA was a big gay backer and deceived some of his original suppoerters.


36 posted on 07/22/2011 2:35:14 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Happy Rain

Yes, but it’s a lesson the American people understand and endorse.


37 posted on 07/22/2011 2:36:35 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Free ThinkerNY

More “sensitivity training” coming right up!

And the Military is history!


38 posted on 07/22/2011 2:37:21 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Always Remember You're Unique.......(Just Like everyone Else.))
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To: Theodore R.

It must have pissed me off so completely that I blocked it from memory.


39 posted on 07/22/2011 2:37:21 PM PDT by hattend (Its a matter of public record that I did not go to Harvard Law School, but I can add. - Sarah Palin)
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To: hattend

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/18/AR2010121801729.html


40 posted on 07/22/2011 2:40:17 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Always Remember You're Unique.......(Just Like everyone Else.))
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To: Elendur

No matter what, the American people are pleased with another liberal “change.” At least according to their voter behavior


41 posted on 07/22/2011 2:40:37 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Glad to be a civilian today.

I guess the nation will just have to learn the hard way.


42 posted on 07/22/2011 2:41:55 PM PDT by DakotaRed (Why not just pass a law requiring criminals to obey the laws?)
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To: hattend

They passed it under a smoke screen of manufactured Media crisis. I beleive it was the turmoil in the Middle East or some other detractor while it was passing the house last December.

The MSM kept it burried.


43 posted on 07/22/2011 2:43:50 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Always Remember You're Unique.......(Just Like everyone Else.))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Can currently serving military members sue him for breach of contract? They enlisted under different conditions that have now changed significantly. Unfortunately, they will probably vote with their feet to the detriment of our nation.


44 posted on 07/22/2011 2:45:14 PM PDT by Pat4ever (NO MORE!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I will be sending the pinkofag got fraud a letter similar to that one I sent his bunk buddy Clinton and we will see if Obummer or his gunrunning White House addresses their empty reply SEIGHEIL as did Clintons house of corruption.


45 posted on 07/22/2011 2:53:28 PM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Theodore R.
If Obama is reelected,expect a “Gay” inaugural military parade complete with pink Abrams,condom covered pastel painted howitzers and left swish right swish transparent spike heel combat boots floating inches above the pavement.

Instead of ‘Stars and Stripes Forever” the marching song will be “The Time Warp” from The Rocky Horror Picture Show—with Obama watching from a balcony dressed as Rocky himself.

46 posted on 07/22/2011 2:54:53 PM PDT by Happy Rain ("Will Geico save you 15% on your insurance? Is Obama an evil Marxist tyrannical son of a bitch?")
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To: All

47 posted on 07/22/2011 2:58:41 PM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: Tax-chick
Does anyone with two brain cells have any doubt that Zero is homosexual?

Calling Larry Sinclair.

48 posted on 07/22/2011 2:59:00 PM PDT by Digger (T)
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To: ColdOne

It wont be the destruction of the military, but it will be the destruction of the queers. Just watch, casualties will go up, and lots of the gays will be coming back in plastic bags. The military will take care of its own ranks.


49 posted on 07/22/2011 3:00:39 PM PDT by Concho (-)
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To: Elendur

Lifesitenews is not a reliable source.

They have a sometimes Conservative posture, sometimes Libertarian agenda. Sometimes for religious conscience, sometimes against it. Nothing consistent or coherent.


50 posted on 07/22/2011 3:03:58 PM PDT by saltus (God's Will be done)
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