Skip to comments.How the Negotiations Broke Down--The White House View (Boehner ignored two Obama phone calls)
Posted on 07/22/2011 6:36:44 PM PDT by kristinn
White House officials thought, just hours ago, that they were very close to a deal with Republican House Speaker John Boehner. But all of the sudden, the speaker wasnt returning the presidents phone calls.
If Speaker Boehner had called back, Americans would have had a deal, a White House official told reporters after the president announced Boehner had pulled out of negotiations.
These officials said there were many zones of agreement, and that cuts to entitlement programs, other than a small disagreement over Medicaid, were settled.
The White House said congressional staffers were still calling today to negotiate details, but the speaker was not talking to the president.
On Thursday afternoon, Obama talked with the speaker. The president called again in the evening. That call was not returned.
The White House said the speakers office emailed at 3:30 p.m. Friday and said the speaker would call at 5:30 p.m. The presidents office called immediately and asked to talk to the speaker. Boehner did not come to the phone, but did call 5:30 p.m., telling the president he could not continue to negotiate.
According to the White House officials, there were only three major outstanding issues -- the president asking for $400 billion in additional revenue over 10 years, how deep cuts in Medicaid would be, and the speakers request that the individual mandate in the health care reform law be eliminated if the government could not approve all elements of the deal.
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From the WH. Childish BS.
Congress is supposed to set the direction and Zer0 to ably administer.
Uh, what’s the phrase again? Is it FUBO?
The MSM is really worried as demonstrated by this and the pile of other old media articles about how Obama was willing to talk and negotiate but Boehner wasn’t.
Let’s hope Boehner doesn’t blink.
So old Pharoah calls in his messengers to tell US he had a deal, BUT now we do not, because his phone calls to continue negotiations were not returned? H E L L O!!!!!
“Uh, whats the phrase again? Is it FUBO?”
That’s the one.
" And if they don't give me my tax increase, I'll hold my breath until I turn blue."
Yes that’s the correct term.
If this part is correct:
“On the revenue side, officials said the two sides had agreed to an increase of $800 billion, which would come from tax reform. The president wanted another $400 billion in revenue, but the officials say he told Boehner that was negotiable.”
Then the other saying is FUJB
The MSM spin will be that Boehner is a spoiled child who can’t get his way, so he throws a tantrum. Count on it.
I love what Mark Steyn called the MSM today: “the court eunuchs of the Obama press”.
Makes zero sense. If Boner wanted a deal he would have called back. Ya think?
“Boehner did not come to the phone, but did call 5:30 p.m., telling the president he could not continue to negotiate.”
WTG Speaker Boehner! Keep pushing the boy king is about to snap.
I can imagine 0bama standing over Boner acting like a condescending ahole.
“and the speakers request that the individual mandate in the health care reform law be eliminated if the government could not approve all elements of the deal.”
This is the hardest thing for me to reconcile. WTF is Boehner doing? As it is if the individual mandate is declared unconstitutional, all of Obamacare could be struck down, but take it out of Obamacare and that’s not possible.
Was it a sop to Bachmann and her demand that Obamacare be repealed as part of a deal? I just don’t get it.
the court eunuchs of the Obama press
Love ir, gonna use it.
I do not beleive these negotiations are being done in good faith. Politically-minded people have been predicting for months that the demos want, indeed insist on, a government shutdown, so they can play it as being the repubs fault, with the media spinning it that way, of course. Same playbook as ‘95 - ‘96. Nothing new here. Nothing Boehner can do to prevent it, except cave totally, which would accomplish the same thing for the demos.
" And if they don't give me my tax increase, I'll hold my breath until I turn blue."
I think the term sphincter feeding regurgitators is more descriptive.
So the President then has a hissy fit and calls a presser. Bambi is such a petulant liar.
Yeah, but what’s Boehner doing insisting that the individual mandate be removed from Obamacare?
Hotair has a column up by EE, from greta, that Cantor and the House of Representative are blaming the gang of 6 for blowing up the CC&B push.
There will be blame passed around naturally but the senate gang of 6 increases capital gains taxes and other nefarious gifts to the prez. If the House determines the purse strings then don’t they still hold the cards to the endgame?
I am of the belief that 40% of the voters have the memory of a moth. 12 more months of being trapped in Bambi’s socialist light fixture should just about get rid of them.
It isn’t worded well above, but as I understand it, the individual mandate would be eliminated if the cuts were not realized. Since Obamacare, and it’s individual mandate, is the jewel in Barry’s tiara, it would give incentive to follow-through with the cuts, a frequent problem with future promises.
Yeah, I’m highly suspicious of that move too. Kind of out-of-the-blue, isn’t it.
I just can’t make myself trust any of them. Especially since they don’t talk about repealing obamacare anymore. Is the GOP willing to accept it IF the individual mandate is gone?
ABC news....= BULL _HIT!
The republicans are in a no win position regardless of the outcome. There is no way the media is going to tell the truth.
Well, with nothing to lose best to go for the best deal possible. The only way to do tha is to take the ball home and go home.
I don’t see any method behind Boner’s madness either. If the individual mandate goes down, Obomneycare no longer can function.
Does the Speaker think he can pull a fast one on the President?
This is why Obama walked away.
Obama made it sound like he didn't move the goal post even though the White House officials admit he did.
I am of the belief that 40% of the voters have the memory of a moth
Which would be a good point if this was only an isolated incident. Every day there is yet another reason to sharpen the pitchforks. So the moths forget today's insanity, tomorrow there will be a fresh one to replace it.
“Congress is supposed to set the direction and Zer0 to ably administer.”
Durbin, Reid, Obama, Pelosi, all in on the act ...
One head hurts at the clusterf8888 possibilities.
What on earth is Boehner doing accepting $800 billion in revenues in the first place.
What on earth is Boehner doing accepting $800 billion in revenues in the first place?
Correct number is $0. Spending cuts only!
“I do not beleive these negotiations are being done in good faith. Politically-minded people have been predicting for months that the demos want, indeed insist on, a government shutdown, so they can play it as being the repubs fault, with the media spinning it that way, of course. Same playbook as 95 - 96. Nothing new here. Nothing Boehner can do to prevent it, except cave totally, which would accomplish the same thing for the demos.”
Nothing good comes from negotiating with Obama. You get a bad deal or you get no deal.
The BEST part of the Congressional republicans behavior has been the push for cut, cap and balance and the vote for it in the House and the Senate. Everything else has been a distraction away from that, as part of the media and Democrats agenda to get the GOP to capitulate.
Of course there is; Boehmer attaches amendment to raise debt limit for $500 million and $1 Billion in cuts to a Senate passed bill the house is holding then send the whole bill back to the Senate.
$800bil in tax increases.
I'll say it again, $800bil in tax increases.
And they should. I heard one of them, I think it was Chambliss, say he didn't know CC&B was being voted on that day. How stupid do they think we are? It was done deliberately and today CC&B was tabled without any debate, without any vote on the bill. Even when the bill got passed, the press reported it as a the "Tea Party plan." Everything that was done, was done to undermine CC&B.
The Gang of Six had and have NOTHING! No bill, just a short handout. It's a sick joke!
If the House holds the purse strings, what’s next with the power they hold?
Obama lied at a speaking event? I'm shocked! /s
I like how the press says there were "only" three MAJOR outstanding issues. Why is "only" even in there? It's there to minimize in the minds of the listener how huge the gap is.
I don't understand what removing the individual mandate gets Boehner when that's the lynchpin of the constitutionality. It's possible there's real fear the Supreme Court will judge the individual mandate constitutional. I guess we can't take anything too lightly. Kagan probably won't recuse, someone could drop dead leaving Obama to make another appointment plus Kennedy and company are unreliable.
If I were Bohner, I would insist that all future negotiations, positions and offers be formalized in writing by each side after negotiating in private.
Nothing, not even ‘ trust but verify’ will work when negotiating with soulless narcissists who seek the destruction of all that we cherish.
That's all this article needs to say.
Remember, video is the new assault weapon (just ask the cops in many jurisdictions).