Skip to comments.Norway: Labor declares war against radical Islam --Islam in Europe (2009)
Posted on 07/22/2011 9:25:31 PM PDT by garjog
Radical doesnt belong in Norway in any way, and we will fight it, Kolberg said. The Labor Party wants to take care of the interests of the great majority, at the same time that we must be crystal clear that Norwegian law applies and that all extremist groups have no place in Norwegian society. ...
Yesterday Norwegian Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg called an urgent phone-conference with his party's leadership and said the Kolberg's declaration of war against radical Islam reflects the view of the party.
(Excerpt) Read more at europenews.dk ...
Also, killing kids is analogous to the Belsen massacre in Russia, committed by Islamic murderers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beslan_school_hostage_crisis.
Ten days ago a Muslim cleric held on terror charges has threatened to kill politicians if he is deported. He singled out asylum minister Erna Solberg, who is a member of the Conservative party. However, if Norway's conservatives are like US conservatives, they probably also support the laws trying to control Islam in Norway too.
Headline: Norway holds Ansar al-Islam boss on terror charges
"An Iraqi-born Muslim cleric is facing terror charges after apparently threatening to kill Norwegian politicians, Associated Press reported today." http://www.aknews.com/en/aknews/3/251611/
The Labor party is a center left party, Norway's largest.
Despite the propaganda about ‘peaceful’ Norway...it’s not.
If they like Islam so much, why don’t they all go and live in Saudi Arabia.
Some of the suspects rantings
I completely agree that Obama is a brilliant retoriker and communicator, one of the best we’ve seen over the past 30 years.
But firstly, we can not and should not compare the cultural struggle in the U.S. with that in Europe. Rhetoric must and should be different. The average “right click” - Republican in the U.S. is a “libertarian” (anti-socialist but pro multikulti) while the average conservative in Europe is much more anti-multikulti but arguments based on cultural resistance against Islamization.
The so-called anti-multiculti in the U.S. based their rhetoric on ethnocentrism alone which thus differs greatly from Europeans. This is the main reason that we must separate the American and European cultural struggle. I usually stay away from American issues as a result.
Regardless of whether we are in the U.S. or Europe, it is essential you have to ask about the following:
When was that multiculturalism ceased to be an ideology designed to deconstruct a European culture, traditions, identity and nation-states? If you support a leader who propagate multikulti (ideology as of this writing systematically deconstructs Western civilization), one can not then just as well stick to the class struggle or the MSM?
And if we then think that multiculturalism wonderful doctrines is the main cause of the ongoing Islamization of Europe and the U.S., one should not criticize multiculturalism while leading No. 1, the one Jesus Christ Obama for his fundamental principles?
Failure to criticize him, you have not then accepted the multiculturalism wonderful premise?
he problem with the Progress Party have become that in their etterstrebenhet after reaching up to the multiculturalism fantastic claims and humanism suisidale ideals they have in many ways thrown out the baby with the bath water.
Genuine resistance has been reduced to listening to the PR agency and do 2-3 tactical statements before each election, to ensure the voices of the core.
The vast majority of new faces in the Progress Party is now politically correct career politicians and not in any way idealists who are willing to take risks and work for idealistic goals.
The comic is that even though they have thrown almost all principles of garbage dump and reduced cultural struggle to “reduce the flow of asylum with a couple of thousand” is still burning brand in public, ridiculed, harassed and isolated by the humanist-Marxist.
Parliamentary Representatives from the Progress Party, should at least read the document every single day and involved a bit when it is their duty to be the people’s voice. Unfortunately, very few of them at all know what the document is about something, and fewer than 5% of them know what taqiyya and naskh is.
F example. when a combined force chose to ignore the Swedish and French intifada before the last election for strategic reasons, which later cost FrP maybe 5%, should Siv have instructed all of his people to call the ARK and other newsrooms and forced them to cover this about this.
I have great respect for how the Marxist-humanist networks in Norway are able to use their power optimally through “force Multiplication” and cooperation.
They are insanely hard-working, skilled in the consolidation and hard-working and most on the right side has a lot to learn from them.
I have never understood why the West focus so disproportionately on Iran and so little on the Wahhabi Saudi leadership, which after all is the most dangerous and most powerful Muslim central power. We should, of course, as soon as the bombing suspect their facilities but otherwise focus much more on Saudi. Could it be something that Iran is not a major oil exporter?
Shias make up a relatively small proportion of Muslims and has absolutely no influence on the Sunnis.
I would actually argue that we undermine our own interests by unilaterally attacking the only relatively weak alternative to Sunni Islam. If Iran falls to Wahhabi position strengthened considerably, since they have no competitors.
We should not forget that Saudi Arabia and several other Sunni Muslim countries want to destroy Iran. Nor is Iran that has built 300-500 Wahhabi centers around around Europe of the finances only 2 of 30 Jihad Fronts around the around the world.
Here is a nice overview - 10 reasons why the modern church will die:
I myself am a Protestant and baptized / confirmed to me by my own free will when I was 15
But today’s Protestant church is a joke. Priests in jeans who march for Palestine and churches that look like the minimalist shopping centers. I am a supporter of an indirect collective conversion of the Protestant church back to the Catholic. In the meantime, I vote for the most conservative candidates in church elections.
The only thing that can save the Protestant church is to go back to basics
I strongly doubt that your theory is correct. The whole conflict between GDP and EDL started with a change of leadership in the EDL for a few months ago. They threw out the racist and denounced the BNP. They chose instead SIOE’s ideological basis that is more or less mainstream view on the right side in Western Europe now (Vienna School of Thought).
Nick was very offended and began to demonize the EDL. Although they are now attacking each other as they compete not at all as these are two quite different fronts. 90% of all votes in the EDL continued GDP (Since this is the only alternative to multikulti in the UK) and 90% of GDP supports EDL regardless of what Nick had to think.
Second, Labour governs intelligence service. They had never in his life supported the EDL as these create a lot of positive attention for the cultural conservative movement in the UK.
I have on some occasions discussed with SIOE and EDL and recommended them to use conscious strategies.
The tactics of the EDL is now out to “entice” an overreaction from Jihad Youth / Extreme-Marxists something they have succeeded several times already. Over The reaction has been repeatedly shown on the news which has booster EDLs ranks high. This has also benefited GDP. WinWin for both.
But I must say I am very impressed with how quickly they have grown but this has to do with smart tactical choice by management.
EDL is an example and a Norwegian version is the only way to prevent Flash / SOS to harass Norwegian cultural conservatives from other fronts. Creating a Norwegian EDL should be No. 3 on the agenda after we have started up a cultural conservative newspaper with national distribution.
The agenda of the Norwegian cultural conservative movement over the next 5 years are therefore:
1. Newspaper with national distribution
2 Working for the control of several NGOs
3 Norwegian EDL
I’m still wondering what weapon could a lone shooter use to annihilate over 80 children? Those with weapons experience, please enlighten me.
That’s what I’m wondering. He was supposedly dressed as a cop, so I don’t think he had a rifle as that would stick out like a sore thumb in a region where they don’t even bother handcuffing suspects unless they have to. A lot of things don’t add up.
Quisling with his buddy Hitler.
I hadn’t heard it was that many.
Some nations in Europe are allowing full-auto.
Quisling with his buddy Hitler.
After the war, they hung that SOB.
Thanks, MadIsh32, but your comment seems a bit too long. Usually Freepers keep comments to about 200 words or less, don’t you think?
My point in posting the article was that it seems to me the attack may have been an Islamic terror attack against the Labor party.
You discuss multiculturalism. Is that what the suspect is discussing on his blog that you linked? It is in Norwegian and I can’t read it. I take it that he isn’t a Muslim based on what he says?
87 at last count.
You should be able to google translate the blog
Yea, the suspect isn’t Muslim based on his blog. Very interesting read
But, a single weapon that wipes out 87 people wielded by a single person?
He sounds like a Lefty to me...
That is the type of place we are dealing with. Very anti Semitic to this day. Apparently the filthy rag heads taking the place over complain about the Holocaust being taught in schools there. The locals are all right with that.
You mind explain this in details???
>> Some of the suspects rantings
If you’re familiar with Norway’s political parlance, could you give context to the suspect’s rant?
>> Very anti Semitic to this day
Quite systemic in Europe, sadly.
Norway was Nazi all the way in WW II.
Just who was running the place back then.
“Four thousand throats can be cut in one night by a running man. ...”
Take M-60 or RPK and you can easily slaughter 200 unarmed people.
Hah! Won’t happen. Norvegians are liberal sissies.
What choice did Norway have.....Chamberlain was unwilling to fight the Germans in Norway, what was Norway to do? Was Holland, Belgium, Luxembourg and Denmark “Pro-Nazi” too?
LOL! From whence do you quote this line?
Police and military uniforms have been discovered when authorities raid terrorist hideouts.
Using fake police uniforms seems to be an AQ tactic.
This 2007 article reported that Serbians found military uniforms in a terrorist cache.
Serbian Police raid Wahhabi terrorist camp: http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?107641-Serbian-Police-raid-Wahhabi-terrorist-camp
In 2010 in Pakistan, terrorists were caught with police uniforms. “Sources said 20 suicide jackets, police uniforms, detonators, explosive material and automatic weapons were seized terror suspects. http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2010-07-03/news/27578758_1_nabs-suicide-jackets-huge-cache
Other examples of Pakistani terrorists using fake police uniforms. http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_5-5-2005_pg7_31
OMG! I’ve been avoiding even FNC lately because I get too upset and need a break from all the “stuff”. Thanks.
But, did he have them in his arsenal?
As Pro American, you always have a choice. They made the wrong one and will be treated poorly in my opinion forever.
Hitler allied NAZI Germany with a bunch of muzzies and even had a few army divisions made up of muzzies on the Eastern front. It figures.
It's probably possible when nobody else is armed, allowing the perpetrator time to reload and fire at will, and the location on an island traps the victims, .
I’ve no idea.
OK, I was confused. Your post # 3 was a translation of the suspects blog. I was thinking it was your words, hee, hee.
If this is his blog, then Islam didn’t have anything to do with the attack it would seem and my argument falls apart.
Should one take the words of a mass killer at face value? “I’m not going to hurt you, I just want your money,” says the serial rapist/killer.
It’s a Klingon proverb. But more likely taken from the Islamic tradition of “A thousand...”
But more to the point is the INTENT of the shooter. His obvious INTENT was to slaughter. My daddy always told me to have absolute confidence in my shot, big game hunting. You know, that my INTENT was to kill. But that INTENT is dampened by RESPECT.
In this case, IMO, armed with some sort of multiple bullet weapon on a “closed” course with 700 + - targets, a professional killer with the INTENT could have amassed a far greater number of kills.
And do not misunderstand me. This is a monstrous act and a terrible tragedy. Just replying to your question.
Sun Tzu says that the enemy of my enemy is my friend. It could be that AQ tries to recruit anti-Government nut jobs to do their work.
Hopefully interrogation will get some answers about possible links to Muslim terrorists.
Thank you for your response, answers many question.
As a former hunter (VN cured me of the hunting desire ... having been hunted myself), I no longer hunt ... although I enjoy the results of other hunter ... love venison.
Could be except isn’t the point of terrorism to get media credit for the killings? So, why would they deceive?
I don’t hunt any more either. My heart isn’t in it. But the first time I put my son on a bull elk, he was shooting, and then my brother started shooting, and then my brother looked at me and said “DO something...”. I said “Give me your gun...”.
Hidden beneath all of this rhetoric is the fact that the Leftist Government was running a Leftist training facility on that island for their youth.
Remember that in Norway the Liberal, Progressive, Socialist party is called the Right and the Conservative Party is considered the Left.
This has NOTHING to do with Muslims. None were involved, none were killed, none were apparently involved in any way.
Think about the way the story was written. It was to shock the world because those that run the government is twisted 180 degrees from what they claim to represent.
Because they were children and there were no adults around with a weapon, is the reason they are dead. If no one is shooting back at you it would be quite easy with a semi-automatic hunting rifle.
Many good Norwegians died in the resistance during WWII. Quisling was executed after the war.
It’s not a blog. It’s a collection of posts he has made in various discussions on that site. So things will be out of context, but still give an insight into his thinking.
Below is a google translation (I’m tired) of him telling about himself. Gives you an insight into where he stands politically and his eccentric personality. Most of his posts are normal and coherent though.
“I’m NOK much later in the game than him when I have only been politically active for 13 years. I am first generation dhimmi (Generation Y). I was active Oslo FrP / FpU in the first 6-7 years (in the cultural conservatives + laissez faire capitalist / liberal camp) and contributed to the Progress Party’s success before I stopped. I felt the time was more important to help develop / promote the political doctrines abroad especially British, German, French, American). I ran the business a few years while I studied and earned a few million so I could finance a inntektsløs politically active life. I now use these funds to be able to work full time to further develop / promote the Vienna Academy (Vienna school of thought) that Fjordman, Bat Yeor, Spencer + many others have already contributed so much till. The last three years I worked full time with a cultural conservative works that will help to further develop / promote these political doctrines further.
Anyway, I consider the future consolidation of the cultural conservative forces on all seven fronts as the most important in Norway and in all Western European countries. It is essential that we work to ensure that all these 7 fronts using the Vienna school of thought, or at least parts of the grunlag for 20-70 year-struggle that lies in front of us.
The book is called, by the way 2083 and is in English, 1100 pages).
To sums up the Vienna school of thought:
- Cultural Conservatism (anti-multiculturalism)
- Against Islamization
- Anti-authoritarian (resistance to all authoritarian ideologies of hate)
- Pro-Israel/defender of non-Muslim minorities in Muslim countries
- Defender of the cultural aspects of Christianity
- To reveal the Eurabia project and the Frankfurt School (ny-marxisme/kulturmarxisme/multikulturalisme)
- Is not an economic policy and can collect everything from socialists to capitalists
Frankfurt School (kulturmarxisme) is a very ambitious unofficial ideology (and quite unknown to most) and they have succeeded in most areas (except to smash capitalism, European Christianity and European identity, traditions, culture). Vienna school is more a defense against this where we often use the Marxist ‘own creations against them (sexual liberation, feminism, liberalism, anti-racism, anti-autoriære arguments).
Vienna school of thought is far from a complete ideology but consists of principles and ideas that are constantly under development. It is unofficial and does not necessarily ever to be recognized.”
Maybe it does. Not directly TO the moslems, but as an act inspired by their lead. They don't seem to have a problem slaughtering their own children.
More than 80 killed at youth camp - Police (Norway)
some reports say multiple weapons, including maybe a machine pistol and rifle.
(and that his vehicle on the island also had a bomb.)
he apparently had at least 30 minutes to shoot at 500 kids, who initially were all called together around him.
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Warning....not for squimish....
Aerial Photo of shooter standing with rifle shooting....kids on the ground....
322 posted on Saturday, July 23, 2011 12:51:22 AM by caww
Why were the kids called around him? I’ve not paid attention to a lot of this aweful story.