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Norway: Labor declares war against radical Islam --Islam in Europe (2009)
Europe News Denmark ^ | 18 March 2009

Posted on 07/22/2011 9:25:31 PM PDT by garjog

“Radical doesn’t belong in Norway in any way, and we will fight it,” Kolberg said. “The Labor Party wants to take care of the interests of the great majority, at the same time that we must be crystal clear that Norwegian law applies and that all extremist groups have no place in Norwegian society.” ...

Yesterday Norwegian Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg called an urgent phone-conference with his party's leadership and said the Kolberg's declaration of war against radical Islam reflects the view of the party.

(Excerpt) Read more at europenews.dk ...


TOPICS: War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaedanorway; europe; europeanmuslims; jihadineurope; norway; oslo; partisanmediashills; radicalislam; terrorism; wot
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To: garjog

Hidden beneath all of this rhetoric is the fact that the Leftist Government was running a Leftist training facility on that island for their youth.

Remember that in Norway the Liberal, Progressive, Socialist party is called the Right and the Conservative Party is considered the Left.

This has NOTHING to do with Muslims. None were involved, none were killed, none were apparently involved in any way.

Think about the way the story was written. It was to shock the world because those that run the government is twisted 180 degrees from what they claim to represent.


41 posted on 07/22/2011 10:40:15 PM PDT by jongaltsr (It)
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To: doc1019
I’m still wondering what weapon could a lone shooter use to annihilate over 80 children? Those with weapons experience, please enlighten me.

Because they were children and there were no adults around with a weapon, is the reason they are dead. If no one is shooting back at you it would be quite easy with a semi-automatic hunting rifle.

42 posted on 07/22/2011 10:42:06 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: garjog
OK, I was confused. Your post # 3 was a translation of the suspects blog. I was thinking it was your words, hee, hee.

If this is his blog, then Islam didn’t have anything to do with the attack it would seem and my argument falls apart.


This is popping up all over the internet: 4 minutes ago, The Telegraph in the UK has this headline:

"Norway: far-Right gunman on rampage in Norway

At least 17 people are feared dead in Norway after a conservative Christian gunman with reported links to the far-Right mowed down students at a summer camp hours after a bomb devastated the centre of Oslo."


Now, anyone with any brains at all who is conservative and actually against muslim immigration - like many are saying this guy is - would realize that this act would work against his goals. If this guy really is a conservative and anti-muslim, he is feeding the storyline that "whites are terrorists too". The left wing all, mainstream media are jumping all over this way too fast.

Dollars to doughnuts, their "research" and "investigation" that "proves" that this guys is Christian, for example (the above story), undoubtedly comes from the same blog, out there in google cache, of document.no that had excerpts posted from here on FR. That blog is being referenced all over. It's probably the basis for all the MSM "reporting" on this act. Somebody planted that blog, or the bomber / shooter is nuts. This was not the act of a rational person.

It certainly is not anyone trying to further conservative causes - because it gives muslim immigrants TONS of help in arguing that they should be invited in and allowed to take over- I mean live in the West. So if this guy wanted muslims out - this act will vilify native Norwegians as just a great a threat as muslims and give them all the more reasons to be allowed in. His act quite obviously will backfire against his alleged goal.

NOTE: there has been a lot of activity in the last few years where muzzies have worked towards recruiting westerners for operational plans. HINT HINT HINT.

Best thing to do: ignore. Norway needs to expel the hordes that have invaded, but they no doubt will not admit they have a problem. They also should think about a lot more concealed carry - it would help fix their muslims raping Norwegian women problem - and a gun could have come in handy on that island today. But they don't like fighting back, so, bury head in sand, I guess. Their Viking forefathers would not be happy at what their society has become.
43 posted on 07/22/2011 10:43:06 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We need to fix things ourselves)
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To: Lazlo in PA
Geez. The pro Nazi county of Norway took a hit once in a blue moon. These folks are not the babes in the woods they are perceived as.

Many good Norwegians died in the resistance during WWII. Quisling was executed after the war.

44 posted on 07/22/2011 10:45:01 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: garjog

It’s not a blog. It’s a collection of posts he has made in various discussions on that site. So things will be out of context, but still give an insight into his thinking.

Below is a google translation (I’m tired) of him telling about himself. Gives you an insight into where he stands politically and his eccentric personality. Most of his posts are normal and coherent though.

“I’m NOK much later in the game than him when I have only been politically active for 13 years. I am first generation dhimmi (Generation Y). I was active Oslo FrP / FpU in the first 6-7 years (in the cultural conservatives + laissez faire capitalist / liberal camp) and contributed to the Progress Party’s success before I stopped. I felt the time was more important to help develop / promote the political doctrines abroad especially British, German, French, American). I ran the business a few years while I studied and earned a few million so I could finance a inntektsløs politically active life. I now use these funds to be able to work full time to further develop / promote the Vienna Academy (Vienna school of thought) that Fjordman, Bat Yeor, Spencer + many others have already contributed so much till. The last three years I worked full time with a cultural conservative works that will help to further develop / promote these political doctrines further.

Anyway, I consider the future consolidation of the cultural conservative forces on all seven fronts as the most important in Norway and in all Western European countries. It is essential that we work to ensure that all these 7 fronts using the Vienna school of thought, or at least parts of the grunlag for 20-70 year-struggle that lies in front of us.

The book is called, by the way 2083 and is in English, 1100 pages).

To sums up the Vienna school of thought:

- Cultural Conservatism (anti-multiculturalism)
- Against Islamization
- Anti-racist
- Anti-authoritarian (resistance to all authoritarian ideologies of hate)
- Pro-Israel/defender of non-Muslim minorities in Muslim countries
- Defender of the cultural aspects of Christianity
- To reveal the Eurabia project and the Frankfurt School (ny-marxisme/kulturmarxisme/multikulturalisme)
- Is not an economic policy and can collect everything from socialists to capitalists

Frankfurt School (kulturmarxisme) is a very ambitious unofficial ideology (and quite unknown to most) and they have succeeded in most areas (except to smash capitalism, European Christianity and European identity, traditions, culture). Vienna school is more a defense against this where we often use the Marxist ‘own creations against them (sexual liberation, feminism, liberalism, anti-racism, anti-autoriære arguments).

Vienna school of thought is far from a complete ideology but consists of principles and ideas that are constantly under development. It is unofficial and does not necessarily ever to be recognized.”


45 posted on 07/22/2011 10:45:30 PM PDT by LastNorwegian
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To: cpdiii; doc1019
I’m still wondering what weapon could a lone shooter use to annihilate over 80 children? Those with weapons experience, please enlighten me.

Because they were children and there were no adults around with a weapon, is the reason they are dead. If no one is shooting back at you it would be quite easy with a semi-automatic hunting rifle.


Remember the British Enfield bolt-action "mad minute" ? Would only take someone 3 minutes to kill 80 people at that rate.
46 posted on 07/22/2011 10:47:07 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We need to fix things ourselves)
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To: jongaltsr
This has NOTHING to do with Muslims.

Maybe it does. Not directly TO the moslems, but as an act inspired by their lead. They don't seem to have a problem slaughtering their own children.

47 posted on 07/22/2011 10:47:43 PM PDT by bigheadfred (Beat me, Bite me, Make Me write Bad Checks)
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To: unkus; doc1019; Shadow44

More than 80 killed at youth camp - Police (Norway)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2752667/posts?q=1&;page=1#1

some reports say multiple weapons, including maybe a machine pistol and rifle.
(and that his vehicle on the island also had a bomb.)

he apparently had at least 30 minutes to shoot at 500 kids, who initially were all called together around him.
= = =
Warning....not for squimish....

Aerial Photo of shooter standing with rifle shooting....kids on the ground....

http://i53.tinypic.com/23r263t.jpg

322 posted on Saturday, July 23, 2011 12:51:22 AM by caww
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2752667/posts?page=322#322


48 posted on 07/22/2011 10:48:35 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: unkus
The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Mohammed Amin el-Husseini, and Heinrich Himmler recruited 44,000 Bosnian and Albanian Muslims into two division sized units: (1) 13th Waffen SS Gebrigs (Mountain) Division “Handschar” (Sword) and 23rd Waffen SS Gebrigs Division “Skanderbeg”. The Muslim divisions we deployed on the Eastern Front primarily against Yugoslav partisans. They were destroyed in the 1945 battles against the Russians. The survivors surrendered to the Russians and Bulgarians.
49 posted on 07/22/2011 10:50:05 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: Elendur

Why were the kids called around him? I’ve not paid attention to a lot of this aweful story.


50 posted on 07/22/2011 10:53:42 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: jongaltsr; PieterCasparzen; garjog

“Al Taqqiya..Deception..”

Could be except isn’t the point of terrorism to get media credit for the killings? So, why would they deceive?
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This has NOTHING to do with Muslims.
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the jury is still out...
reports are that Muslim groups were talking about the upcoming attack before it happened.

as for why they would deceive, PieterCasparzen in #43 makes great points.


51 posted on 07/22/2011 10:54:23 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: PieterCasparzen

I own a British enfild (202) and shoot it regularly ... no way someone with a bolt action rifle can shoot this many people, with any accuracy, in a short period of time.


52 posted on 07/22/2011 10:54:37 PM PDT by doc1019 (You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice.)
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To: cpdiii

What happened when it counted? During the war?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnrZlWiQFBM&feature=fvwrel


53 posted on 07/22/2011 10:58:45 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: unkus

supposedly he was at the bombing (maybe did it).
then drove to the youth camp (took car on ferry).
told counselors he was sent as security,
BECAUSE of the bombing.

kids were called to him, presumably to be “briefed”,
reassured, whatever. then he started shooting.


54 posted on 07/22/2011 10:59:25 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: MasterGunner01

Thanks for the info. I think most of the survivors never made it home. The German 6th Army, under Field Marshal von Paulus lost all but about 6,000 who eventually made it back to Germany. But I think you probably know more about the Eastern Front than I.


55 posted on 07/22/2011 11:00:19 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: cpdiii

My dad’s cousin was in the resistance in Norway. Wouldn’t talk about it 50 years later for fear of reprisals. Visiting relatives in the northern part of Norway (back in 1979) I asked if they ever worried about the Soviets. They laughed “The Soviets are our neighbors. It is the Germans we still worry about.” (They were serious.)


56 posted on 07/22/2011 11:07:04 PM PDT by 21twelve (Obama Recreating the New Deal: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts)
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To: Elendur

Aweful. It sounds more and more like there were more involved than just this evil demon.


57 posted on 07/22/2011 11:09:45 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: unkus
Von Paulus’ 6th Army survivors were mostly shipped to Siberia to work as slave labor until well after the Great Patriotic War (WW2) was over. The last survivors were not repatriated by the Russians until 1955, I believe.

Neither the Russians or the Germans were very concerned about the Geneva Convention when it came to the treatment of prisoners.

Stalin himself was a cold SOB. The Germans captured his son. Hitler himself offered a prisoner swap for the son; Stalin refused and the son died in one of the Reich's POW camps before war’s end.

58 posted on 07/22/2011 11:18:14 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: PieterCasparzen

“That blog is being referenced all over. It’s probably the basis for all the MSM “reporting” on this act. Somebody planted that blog, or the bomber / shooter is nuts.”

So you think that terrorists covered up the attack, making it look like a “conservative Christian Free Mason” to gain a media bonus in promoting Muslim immigration.

Hopefully there will be some evidence that this is a plot. There does seem to be a Muslim motive.

International Business Times:

It has also been proposed that the attack was the work of Al-Qaeda, targeting Norway for their involvement in Afghanistan. http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/185413/20110722/oslo-terrorist-explosion-bombing.htm


59 posted on 07/22/2011 11:29:19 PM PDT by garjog
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To: LastNorwegian

Why does he use the Muslim term here I wonder:

“I am first generation dhimmi”...

Wouldn’t that be a strange thing to say if you were anti-Muslim?

Is he being ironic?

From Wikipedia:

“the people of the dhimma (or people of the contract”) is a non-Muslim subject of a state governed in accordance with sharia law.”


60 posted on 07/22/2011 11:37:44 PM PDT by garjog
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