Skip to comments.Impasse over subsidies results in FAA shutdown (4,000 workers furloughed)
Posted on 07/23/2011 1:23:23 PM PDT by Libloather
Impasse over subsidies results in FAA shutdown
By Star-Advertiser Staff and News Services
POSTED: 01:30 a.m. HST, Jul 23, 2011
WASHINGTON » Efforts to avert a shutdown of the Federal Aviation Administration failed Friday amid a disagreement over a $16.5 million cut in subsidies to 13 rural communities, ensuring that nearly 4,000 people, including five in Hawaii, will be temporarily out of work and federal airline ticket taxes will be suspended.
Lawmakers were unable to resolve a partisan dispute over an extension of the agency's operating authority, which expired at midnight Friday EDT. The agency has been without long-term funding legislation since 2007 and has operated on a series of short-term extensions.
The subsidy cut was included by Republicans in a House bill extending operating authority for the FAA, which has a $16 billion budget. Senate Democrats refused to accept the House bill with the cuts, and Republican senators refused to accept a Democratic bill without it. Lawmakers then adjourned for the weekend.
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good, I hope to see a lot more of this in the future
Even better than a cut. What has the FAA done for us lately?
Good riddance to useless baggage.
Obama-damn-a-wing-nut gets to walk to his Birthday part hay in Chichen Go!
If this screws up my Hawaii trip, I’m going to be p!ssed.
Beginning of the cutting back. Keep it up Republicans.
$16 million in cuts in a $16 Billion dollar agency??
1/10 of 1%?
Does this help take us out of the “unexpected” scene with unemployment?
Apparently you have too much money. You need to pay more taxes.
As a pilot, I can tell you that the FAA is referred to by pilots as a “tombstone agency.” That is, they run a flawed flight management system which results in an occasional crash or collision. If we had an “on the ball” FAA, we would already have an ATC system based on GPS instead of a bunch of overpaid, and probably overworked people in radar rooms around the country trying to keep planes separated utilizing antique radars (some still use vacuum tubes) and a manual “shrimp boat” system that was new back during WWII.
You have to start the cuts with the first dollar somewhere don’t you???
Appreciate your input.
I know their stuff is ancient, and wondered what the pilot’s view was on this.
If we can control air traffic safely without these 4,000 people, why do we need them in the first place? (How many have pointy hair?)
Unless they’ve gone to flat-screen displays, every single ATC display console has one (big) cathode ray vacuum tube in it ;-) But your point is well taken, I couldn’t believe they were using the shrimp boats as late as the 80s...
Look on the bright side. Our airline tickets just went down 40 bucks.
Gee all those taxes... that worse than my phone bill. Glad I gave up flying.A shutdown of the Federal Aviation Administration will mean that airlines no longer collect some federal ticket taxes, but other taxes would remain. A round-trip ticket with a base fare of $239.26 from Peoria, Ill., through Chicago O'Hare to Raleigh-Durham, N.C., would run up taxes of about $61, for a total cost of $300. Those taxes include: » Excise tax of 7.5 percent, $17.94. » Four airport passenger facility charges of $4.50 each, $18. » Four flight segment taxes of $3.70 each, $14.80. » Four federal security charges of $2.50 each, $10. » Total taxes: $60.74 The excise tax and the four flight segment taxes go away in a shutdown. Total savings: $32.74. Remaining taxes: $28. Note: Taxes would be lower on a nonstop flight because there would be fewer flight segments. Other taxes apply to international flights. Source: Air Transport Association
A tax refund is what is paying for the trip. The US Goobermint probably regrets giving me that refund so that I can enjoy it. The last laugh may be on me, I have to make it through the Gropeathon TSA boys.
Make sure you wear clean panties.
I work in a call center for an airline and have to work tonight on my day off due to this. All hands on deck due to two concerns.
One is that the computers will cooperate with the new tax calculation.
The other bigger concern is that we’ll get a million calls asking for a refund of those taxes. You can get a refund but you have to collect it from the IRS not the airline.
Fortunately the refund fact doesn’t seem to have gone viral online or on CNN.
Please don’t call your airline for a tax refund and I May get out of work early tonight.
So the FAA has 4,000 permanent full time workers who are non essential.
Keep planes from crashing into each other. Unless you are one of those guys who want to make the whole airway a CTAF (that would suck in IFR conditions). Now, I know that Air Traffic Controllers aren't affected by this but I just offer that as an example of when I do support a government program.
Nope, Fox News just reported that Airlines including American and US Air are increasing their rates so that the ticket prices remain the same and they can pocket the difference.
Maybe. But they don’t do it very well. Very expensive, and not very well done. Like many government programs, it needs some serious fixing.
I’m not sure what the best thing to do would be, but I don’t think it’s just leaving things as they are.
See number 12, above.
Cut all funding for it and turn over it's functions to a civilian group analogous to the IEEE.
As #12 above notes, they may do something worthwhile but do it the worst way possible.
FAA Shutdown Because Dems Want to Protect Pork
Posted By Capitol Confidential On August 3, 2011 @ 8:29 am
The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has basically been shut down  thanks to the Senate Democrats addition to pork. 4,000 FAA employees have been furloughed until further notice. 70,000 construction workers must now sit on their hands as all airport construction has halted. And the federal government is loosing $200million a week in airline ticket taxes because they are not authorized to legally collect the tax.